Curse

Brimstonez · Jun 18, 2008, 02:32 AM // 02:32

Amusingly enough I've found it's the people that already have a set or more of obsidian armor and other things obtained via ecto farming, that are complaining about the Perma SF. I can see their point, based on how long it took them, and the expense used to obtain it.

The way I see it, the game is over three years old, and GW2 is soon to be released (confirmed September 09 for EBGames Australia). That isn't a lot of time to the casual gamer who actually has a life. It's a great opportunity for people like us to finally obtain our Obby armors, and buyable titles, thus reaping the benefits for GW2.

I've come up with quite a few builds using the perma structure (A/D being my favorite) for farming now, and solo accessing areas not possible before. I haven't heard anyone complaining about the Derv getting his Mystic buff back yet...or maybe they will if the perma gets nerfed...people always have to have something to cry about, else what's the point of playing right?

It's PvE ffs, get over it! I could understand the QQ if these were PvP buffs, but they're not! Boo-Hoo it's ruining the economy...I hear this crap about gems, ecto, shards, dyes, runes, greens, etc every bloody week. That's finance for you...it goes up and down based on what we buy/sell. If ecto goes down in price, so what? We still have many other options to use in place of cash, ie; Z-Keys, Armbraces, Sup Vigor Runes, Black/White Dye, Gems, Shards, and more. I've noticed the increase in Obby Shard prices, that hasn't happened in a long time. That's awesome...it's starting to bring back the Beach/Forest farmers...haven't seen many of those for a while.

I know I said 'in short', but hey...this has been bottled for a while now, and long overdue

P.S ~ I just noticed it's double points this weekend for all EoTN reputations. OMG we'd better put a stop to this, before people start complaining because it took them ages to get their titles the hard way, same with SS/LB weekends, and Hero points weekends, and.....yeah you get the point...

Thizzle · Jun 18, 2008, 02:33 AM // 02:33

I couldn't agree more. The idea of a game is to relax you and have fun with it. Who cares if everyone is walking around with Obsidian armor and perfect rare weapons. There's plenty to go around and I would still use Primeval armor just because I like it.

Gift3d · Jun 18, 2008, 02:49 AM // 02:49

Yeah, people make a huge deal out of it. The majority of people on guru are pve maniacs just looking for something to whine and bitch about. While what you're saying is right, don't get me wrong, it's just another perma-sf topic.

It's just like ursan. People will whine about it endlessly. Even if their little pve'ing prayers get answered and it is nerfed, surely they'll find something else to bitch about. It's the forum plague, the only thing you can do to escape it is just to avoid it. :[

Thizzle · Jun 18, 2008, 02:51 AM // 02:51

It's whenever new something pops up. Ursan died down, but when that permanent shadow form hit, people just went nuts.

joshuarodger · Jun 18, 2008, 02:57 AM // 02:57

OMG not another thread completely devoted to perma-sf.

WHY GURU-GODS WHY?!?!?!

RiceCream · Jun 18, 2008, 03:18 AM // 03:18

omg nerf ursan. whoops wrong thread

Koricen · Jun 18, 2008, 03:26 AM // 03:26

I had two sets of FoW armor long before the buff to SF and I don't give a damn what people do. It doesn't diminish my armor, I got it because I think it looks cool, not for anybody else. Although I do agree with you that people need to shut the hell up about SF, I don't think you are helping the situation. This thread only stands to instigate more trouble, complaints, and flames.

With that said I move for this thread to be closed.

Thizzle · Jun 18, 2008, 03:30 AM // 03:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koricen

I had two sets of FoW armor long before the buff to SF and I don't give a damn what people do. It doesn't diminish my armor, I got it because I think it looks cool, not for anybody else. Although I do agree with you that people need to shut the hell up about SF, I don't think you are helping the situation. This thread only stands to instigate more trouble, complaints, and flames.

With that said I move for this thread to be closed.

We need a group of people who think like this. Then when ever someone makes a thread like this we all post...

We can also give them a simple reason why it's what you like, not others.

PinkD · Jun 18, 2008, 03:43 AM // 03:43

i won't spend my ecto for those Obby armors. it's look cheap! i rather go for those elite armors which better designs.

/kneel x 100 to PermaSF

joshuarodger · Jun 18, 2008, 03:47 AM // 03:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koricen

With that said I move for this thread to be closed.

seconded
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Brimstonez · Jun 18, 2008, 03:49 AM // 03:49

Yeah I know...another thread. I's usually too late to post in other threads dedicated to this stuff, and by then nobody is reading it anymore :P

Clarissa F · Jun 18, 2008, 04:14 AM // 04:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koricen

I had two sets of FoW armor long before the buff to SF and I don't give a damn what people do. It doesn't diminish my armor, I got it because I think it looks cool, not for anybody else. Although I do agree with you that people need to shut the hell up about SF, I don't think you are helping the situation. This thread only stands to instigate more trouble, complaints, and flames.

With that said I move for this thread to be closed.

thirded. stop trolling and use search. you aren't unique in coming up with this.

Kook~NBK~ · Jun 18, 2008, 04:30 AM // 04:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koricen

I had two sets of FoW armor long before the buff to SF and I don't give a damn what people do. It doesn't diminish my armor, I got it because I think it looks cool, not for anybody else. Although I do agree with you that people need to shut the hell up about SF, I don't think you are helping the situation. This thread only stands to instigate more trouble, complaints, and flames.

With that said I move for this thread to be closed.

/Agree -This thread is just a rehashing of all of the other threads about SF & Ursan.

obsidian ectoplasm · Jun 18, 2008, 04:39 AM // 04:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gift3d

It's just like ursan. People will whine about it endlessly. Even if their little pve'ing prayers get answered and it is nerfed, surely they'll find something else to bitch about. It's the forum plague, the only thing you can do to escape it is just to avoid it. :[

but for people like me they arnt anrgy because Ursan is overpower they are pissed because they cannot get into a group if they don't have it

I Conjure Ho I · Jun 18, 2008, 04:46 AM // 04:46

omgomgomgomgomg ANET must nerf teh URSAN and Teh SF nowz

fenix · Jun 18, 2008, 04:48 AM // 04:48

Why is this in Sardelac?

I care, because I have all my money in ecto, and as the ecto prices go down, I lose money. Quite a bit of money at that.

luminoire · Jun 18, 2008, 05:00 AM // 05:00

god forbid that anet doesn't tailor the game mechanics to your needs and investment endeavors.

if you invested money in ecto, you should have known there was always a risk involved, with or without perma SF.

Kanyatta · Jun 18, 2008, 05:01 AM // 05:01

Personally, I have 0 sets of FoW armor, about 11k in storage, about 20k worth of items/mats in storage, and my most prestigious weapon is a Colossal Scimitar with pretty good mods, which might be worth 40k on a good day. I am also a perma-SF/Ursan hater.

I personally would like to go through PvE and every once in a while get a gold drop or go through UW and get an ecto drop. I can't tell you how long it's been since either of those have happened. Virtually, the only way I have to make money is trading Balth Faction or RP's for ZKeys, and even those are slowly but surely going down in value, and even at their current value, its not enough for me to outfit all my characters and pay for skills and whatnot, as I have 2 or 3 new characters I'm working on maxing.

Through about my last 100 or so hours of PvE, the best drop I have received is a purple Flatbow, not counting some chest drops. I, personally, attribute this to the continuous wh0ring of all the different farming techniques. I just can't keep up unless I start an Assassin or rank up in Norn, neither of which I have done, as I feel SF/Ursan is more of an exploit than a technique.

tl; dr: I can't really "get over it" as you want me to do, because it is inhibiting my ability to play the game.

kerpall · Jun 18, 2008, 05:23 AM // 05:23

If i wasn't a monk, i don't know how i would get into any party for UW or FoW, as my norn rank sucks. Perma SF not only ruins the rich investor's ecto's, but the casual gamer's too. Lets say a casual gamer gets 2 ecto for each of his UW runs (which would take an avg gamer aprox 1.5 hrs).

So SF just took that 1.5 hrs of work, that could have been sold for 10k, and dropped it down to like 7k. So for every 100k they should have made, they can now only sell their ecto for 70k.

SF farming screws over basically EVERYONE except other SF farmers. Even then, other SF farmers cannot sell their goods for as much, as their competition drive their prices down.

skretth · Jun 18, 2008, 05:45 AM // 05:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brimstonez

The way I see it, the game is over three years old, and GW2 is soon to be released (confirmed September 09 for EBGames Australia).

ROFL ZOMG R U SERIOUS
you actually believe EBGames Australia on a release date for GW??
I don't believe the release dates and I work for them. I only believe it when we get the stock come in.
Prophecies (1 month late) {CE was released at same time}
Factions (2 weeks late) {CE was even longer}
Nightfall (3 days late) {CE was even longer}

Upcoming releases
* Guild Wars 2 beta (second half of 2008 est.)
* Guild Wars 2 (2009/2010 est.)

Until ANET Announce it do not believe a THING EBGames Australia say..