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Kanyatta · Jun 19, 2008, 05:31 PM // 17:31

Mostly in response to the recent Ecto scare, I propose that Anet should have some form of trading medium, seeing as the players cannot trade in increments over 100k without using an item, such as Ecto, or less commonly, ZKeys and Armbraces. If the title of the items sounds stupid, I don't care if they're changed to something more suitable. So I was thinking, an NPC selling an item that could be BOUGHT and SOLD for the EXACT SAME price, and DOES NOT drop from monsters or chests. The only way this item can be obtained is through the NPC.

Statue Trader:
Buys and Sells:
Wooden statue: 5k
Tin Statue: 10k
Copper Statue: 20k
Bronze Statue: 30k
Silver Statue: 50k
Gold Statue: 75k
Platinum Statue: 100k

Naturally, all prices and names are just for the purpose of example. Feel free to revise them if you wish.

Abedeus · Jun 19, 2008, 05:40 PM // 17:40

/signed

Or just get coins/chests with coins (in your inventory). Double-click to get amount of money. Can't be used if the amount would make you have more than 100k gold.

-rightuos- · Jun 19, 2008, 05:42 PM // 17:42

I saw your idea in the closed thread and totally agreed.

Kanyatta · Jun 19, 2008, 05:43 PM // 17:43

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

Or just get coins/chests with coins (in your inventory). Double-click to get amount of money. Can't be used if the amount would make you have more than 100k gold.

That's also a good idea. I just noticed that people need something that doesn't fluctuate to be a trading medium.

A Leprechaun · Jun 19, 2008, 06:04 PM // 18:04

If A-net did this don't you think they would just remove the cap? Or is there some reason why not?

~A Leprechaun~

Xx Da Best Xx · Jun 19, 2008, 06:04 PM // 18:04

I agree with both ideas. People need something so that they don't lose money on stuff they cant control

Kanyatta · Jun 19, 2008, 06:11 PM // 18:11

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Originally Posted by A Leprechaun

If A-net did this don't you think they would just remove the cap? Or is there some reason why not?

Maybe its a lot harder than just pressing a "Allow all values" button or something. Maybe some way the game is programmed won't allow them to do that? I dunno, there must be some reason. I don't see why they wouldn't allow it in the first place.

Pesi · Jun 19, 2008, 06:11 PM // 18:11

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Originally Posted by Kanyatta

Statue Trader:
Buys and Sells:
Wooden statue: 5k
Tin Statue: 10k
Copper Statue: 20k
Bronze Statue: 30k
Silver Statue: 50k
Gold Statue: 75k
Platinum Statue: 100k

Add this to the merchant!!!

but dont need that many.. three kinds are enough imo
Copper Statue: 20k (should be changed to iron/steel Statue- just cause copper doesnt exist in GW(except some weaponds)

Silver Statue: 50k (change to gold statue, same reason)

Platinum Statue: 100k

This is the best suggestion of all times.
+1111111
/signed

Targren · Jun 19, 2008, 06:39 PM // 18:39

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Originally Posted by Kanyatta

So I was thinking, an NPC selling an item that could be BOUGHT and SOLD for the EXACT SAME price, and DOES NOT drop from monsters or chests.

Reminds me of the old SNES game "7th Saga", where you bought gemstones like this since you lost 50% of your gold when you died.

15 years later, it's still an awesome idea.
/signed

Dograzor · Jun 19, 2008, 06:47 PM // 18:47

/Signed

In RL we have papermoney to pay with that replaces coins...

make 10k bills or 100k bills, figurativly speaking, so economy wont rely on ecto's...

EDIT:

In order to prevent people from argueing that all their money is in ecto, another idea:

You can trade in your ecto's in for the "bills", 2 ecto will give you 10k bill (or wtever pice is usable), so the people that would like to save ecto as trading materials can keep theirs, the ones that use them as currency can exchange them.

Nick Of Troy · Jun 19, 2008, 07:24 PM // 19:24

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In RL we have papermoney to pay with that replaces coins...

RL money works on the same faith system that ecto's did. IE; sudden influx of money leads to money becoming less valuable

I think this is a brilliant idea, it would remove the covertous nature of items like ecto's and be a 100% way to safeguard ingame gold against updates and price drops. Because it would be obtained exclusivly through some kind of NPC Merchant, and then ingame traders, the price would not
change at all, as we have seen with ectoplasm, Z-Keys and minipets.

Although Christ, Shadow Stepping scams would be truely epic. Imagine a newbie Ebay-account-buyer being scammed out of a stack of plat statues....

MithranArkanere · Jun 19, 2008, 07:24 PM // 19:24

Are you joking? This has been suggested already, and it's as senseless as it has been all the other times.

Cash cap is no an issue to be solved. Is an intentional mechanic.

Now, instead of just replying again. Wait and think about GW trading is meant to work and why is that cap there.
If you don't agree with the cap, you haven't though enough, and you should wait and think more.

Kanyatta · Jun 19, 2008, 07:35 PM // 19:35

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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

Cash cap is no an issue to be solved. Is an intentional mechanic.

Now, instead of just replying again. Wait and think about GW trading is meant to work and why is that cap there.
If you don't agree with the cap, you haven't though enough, and you should wait and think more.

How do you know its an intentional mechanic? Only a dev would actually know that for sure.

I would also like you to come up with two possible reasons for having the 100k cap, because none come to my mind, and I've thought about it for almost 3 years.

fgarvin · Jun 19, 2008, 07:36 PM // 19:36

I had a similar thread a couple years back...but I only used Platinum bars at 100k each. They would stack @ 250 per stack.

MithranArkanere · Jun 19, 2008, 07:53 PM // 19:53

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Originally Posted by Kanyatta

How do you know its an intentional mechanic? Only a dev would actually know that for sure.

I would also like you to come up with two possible reasons for having the 100k cap, because none come to my mind, and I've thought about it for almost 3 years.

Because it was the Devs answer to such questions in in-game and wiki talks before.

Try to google for it.

Skye Marin · Jun 19, 2008, 09:25 PM // 21:25

You really only need the 100k item, as any number of those plus what gold you have on your person can be any value.

Something that is 935.4k would be 9 Plat Statues + 35.4k

Trylo · Jun 19, 2008, 10:07 PM // 22:07

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Originally Posted by Taisayacho

/signed +17.
Make them un-farmable right?

the whole point is that theyre not dropped by anything.

/signed

Stockholm · Jun 19, 2008, 10:10 PM // 22:10

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Originally Posted by Kanyatta

Maybe its a lot harder than just pressing a "Allow all values" button or something. Maybe some way the game is programmed won't allow them to do that? I dunno, there must be some reason. I don't see why they wouldn't allow it in the first place.

Might have to do with DATA BASE and such.

Dograzor · Jun 19, 2008, 10:36 PM // 22:36

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Originally Posted by Nick Of Troy

Although Christ, Shadow Stepping scams would be truely epic. Imagine a newbie Ebay-account-buyer being scammed out of a stack of plat statues....

*Grin* They deserve it ^^

Ultra Mega · Jun 19, 2008, 10:53 PM // 22:53

Anet put the cap there for a reason. It is not some bug or error that needs to be fixed so it doesn't need a solution. If they wanted trades to go above 100k they would increase the cap.

/notsigned