Curse

TechnoSword · Jul 06, 2008, 06:53 AM // 06:53

I was talking with friends and I had this random idea which sounded reasonable. Survivor title is one thing people dont have that want to have on some of their chars. I sure didnt know about it till my main character went through 2 campaigns and realised I could never have it.

Well with ectos being crazy and all I could imagine:

Balthazar having some sort of quest for us some sort of Purification Quest. or Glory of Balthazar quest what have you that when compelted gives you some exp gold, some item or what not, but most importantly a gold sink. Provide 100 ectoplasm at the end of the quest which spawns this NPC and he will whatever you want to make it sound for guild wars sake. Purify you with the might of balthazar and you will be 'cleansed' starting back at 0 deaths in which you can then proceed to get your title!

I mean basically gw has grown into titles recently and with the ecto situation recently what better gold sink then a quest to deposit an outragous amount of ectos away to get a survivor on a character that you want? I can imagine it being benefical for the most part and its just a title so its one of those sure itw ont effect me unless im title whoring type of thing. And it would be a new sink for ectos.

What do you think? the ecto price for clearing your deaths and be raised or wahtever, but the concept is what I want you to think about

idicious · Jul 06, 2008, 07:19 AM // 07:19

Actually not that bad imo, would raise ecto prices again and being someone who's main char was created before titles existed I'd love to be able to get survivor on him as 30th title at the moment will be a huge pain to get (max kurz or treasure are only 2 viable options atm for me) I'd be willing to pay that to get survivor for him.

Zidane Ortef · Jul 06, 2008, 07:48 AM // 07:48

Why is it so hard to not ge,t Anet isn't really worried bout the game right now they will not be adding new stuff, as there focus right now is GW2 do to the competition from WoW's third Campaign, Conan, and with D3 on its way they have to be on the ball if they wanna continue to sell games.

And for justice on the mass Perma Sins they attempted to nerf them and the plains and didn't really get to far with in hours of the nerf a new build emerged on the scene making ecto farming just as viable as before. As for the nerf to SF that was to make the people hording ectos in stack to stop there QQing becuz there stack of ectos was no longer worth the 1 million gold per stack it was before SF perma plain runs. GW is dead get your 30 titles and wait to GW2 if your buying it, if not move on to a different game.

Zidane Ortef · Jul 06, 2008, 07:49 AM // 07:49

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Originally Posted by idicious

Actually not that bad imo, would raise ecto prices again and being someone who's main char was created before titles existed I'd love to be able to get survivor on him as 30th title at the moment will be a huge pain to get (max kurz or treasure are only 2 viable options atm for me) I'd be willing to pay that to get survivor for him.

and BTW u can pay to get max kurzick so why not just do that 50-100g per run

willypiggy · Jul 06, 2008, 07:51 AM // 07:51

Sure Survivor would be nice but all I would need to do is turn in 100 ectos and I have the title. Survivor is already pretty buyable (I don't even think thats a word but still) and doesn't need to be even more buyable.

Pesi · Jul 06, 2008, 07:56 AM // 07:56

no quest will be hard enough to cleance my characters 4000 deaths each.

noone cares about ecto anyway, only people that think the fow armor give skills.

Evil Genius · Jul 06, 2008, 08:06 AM // 08:06

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Originally Posted by Pesi

noone cares about ecto anyway, only people that think the fow armor give skills.

How about the people who want a stable, valuable, commodity to use in trades above 100k? Obsidian is just one factor in the ecto market.

rick1027 · Jul 06, 2008, 08:11 AM // 08:11

signed just for the thought of being able to get survivor on a char made before the title that we didn't know we were getting at the time

Pesi · Jul 06, 2008, 08:13 AM // 08:13

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Originally Posted by Evil Genius

How about the people who want a stable, valuable, commodity to use in trades above 100k? Obsidian is just one factor in the ecto market.

new to game or havent just seen that zkeys are moe stable and worth the double?

until someone come up with new farmbots for baltz factions.
They will be far more stabil than ectos ever been, And its not like u CANT use ectos for trades over 100k. You just need more of them, u got place for 1750 ecto in there, whats the problem?

Konig Des Todes · Jul 06, 2008, 08:49 AM // 08:49

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Originally Posted by Evil Genius

How about the people who want a stable, valuable, commodity to use in trades above 100k? Obsidian is just one factor in the ecto market.

two words, Black Dye. Those are much more stable and now valuable too. AND you can sell to a trader just like ectos. It's the perfect replacement (until people sell their 50 million stacks of ectos and black dyes go down in price to 100g, but hey, we also got white dye for half the price of black*currently*).

@OP: good intent, could use some work (had a little trouble understanding the jest of what you were saying but I get the idea), although I think that Survivor is not the correct source for an ecto sink. Possible ecto sink, yes, but correct, I don't know.

miskav · Jul 06, 2008, 09:17 AM // 09:17

For characters (mains) Made in 2005, this'd be awesome

and I for one would love survivor on my main D:

Icy The Mage · Jul 06, 2008, 09:22 AM // 09:22

With the new HoM changes, I don't think Survivor on your main char will be necessary <_<

Evil Genius · Jul 06, 2008, 09:43 AM // 09:43

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Originally Posted by Pesi

new to game or havent just seen that zkeys are moe stable and worth the double? They will be far more stabil than ectos ever been,

Worth double only because of recent drop (since SF was split into PvE or PvP) in ecto, and because of introduction of Z-key title. If ectos hadn't been screwed over then they would have been stable at about 5k much longer than Z-Keys. Although I guess my 38-month old account isn't old enough for you?

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Originally Posted by Pesi

And its not like u CANT use ectos for trades over 100k. You just need more of them, u got place for 1750 ecto in there, whats the problem?

No shit sherlock. Consider: before price drop player Bob has 300k and play Sam has 60 ectos. After drop Sam still has 60 ectos but Bob can buy 85 ectos.

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Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin

two words, Black Dye. Those are much more stable and now valuable too. AND you can sell to a trader just like ectos.

OMG WOW I hadn't thought of that. Now all I have to do is trade my 600 ectos for Black Dye and get whole Guild Wars community to adopt black dye too. /sarcasm

You two people think your so original and superior. The idea of a replacement to ectos as an over 100k commodity isn't new - I remember reading a thread ages ago (pre Z-key days) suggesting lockpicks instead. It had (mainly) widespread support but has it happened? No.

Heres one in mid May suggesting Z-Keys.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ks+%2B+ ectos

Skye Marin · Jul 06, 2008, 09:45 AM // 09:45

That's the odd thing about Ecto. Right now it's ~3.5k each, but if all the ecto folks are hanging onto were traded back to the trader, the average price would probably be closer to ~2k. If the trading commodity beyond 100k was changed, that's when we'd really see the price of Ecto drop.

A Leprechaun · Jul 06, 2008, 10:27 AM // 10:27

Why don't they just change the title so that your characters can die but still get the title. As long as you gain X amount of exp without dying you get the title, it resets every time you die.
So say I had 1000 deaths (or whatever) so long as I gained 1,337,500 more exp and my death count was still at 1000 I would get legendary survivor.

~A Leprechaun~

I Dont Do Coke · Jul 06, 2008, 10:38 AM // 10:38

I like the idea of being able to get survivor on a character that had died before the introduction of the title, but not this way. Just how many more titles do you want to be able to ebay?

farmerfez · Jul 06, 2008, 10:42 AM // 10:42

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Originally Posted by Skye Marin

That's the odd thing about Ecto. Right now it's ~3.5k each, but if all the ecto folks are hanging onto were traded back to the trader, the average price would probably be closer to ~2k. If the trading commodity beyond 100k was changed, that's when we'd really see the price of Ecto drop.

More like 100 gold lol

Tyla · Jul 06, 2008, 12:47 PM // 12:47

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Originally Posted by Kerwyn Nasilan

Worst Idea ever
/notsigned

Agreed.

For the same reason grinding for benefits is bad.

I would be happy to obtain the ability to earn Survivor on my Ranger because I was uninformed about it when the title was created. But why should I have to pay to get it?

I, aswell as alot of other players would'nt want to farm 100 ectos just to be able to get this title. Simple as.

You shouldn't have to farm just for titles either.

Sai Rith · Jul 06, 2008, 01:45 PM // 13:45

Survivor title runs I've seen on some forums are cheaper than the total cost of 100 Ectos, even if the Ectos are 3.7k.

TechnoSword · Jul 06, 2008, 04:29 PM // 16:29

I see alot of responses after posting this lol.

Well my first thought for the suggestion is that since it's a title the only people who would care about it are the people who are trying to max out all the titles. It would not have an effect on players who do not grind titles.

It is just a gold sink for Globs of Ectoplasm, as title runs can be cheaper and easily done then as one of you already said, does it really matter that the ectoplasm gold sink is expensive then? it's purpose is just a gold sink for ectoplasm.

I also liked the suggestion one person had about having the exampled certain deaths and reaching the experience without dying from that amount of time.

And yes survivor on your main character wouldnt have to be necessary, but what if you felt like maxing out that character as much as possible? Then you'd be more willing to do so.

I hope i stated my thoughts clearly and I hope I dont get flamed too much, but thanks for at least reading all.