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Talindra Moonbow · Jun 10, 2005, 06:55 AM // 06:55

I know it may be a small thing to change but our guild would really appreciate a few more lines in the Guild Announcement Text Window. It's irritating that we only get 250 letters or so--which translates into about 2 1/2 lines. It would be nice to be able to have four or so. Enough so you can get your point across. Just one of those little things.

Rhunex · Jun 10, 2005, 07:11 AM // 07:11

Yeah, I agree. I like to keep most of my Guild Announcements on our forums, but sometimes you really need to utilize the announcement window in-game to the best of your ability, and as bad as it sounds, I've been reduced to abbreviating, using aol speak(ne1, u, etc) to get a big point across, because I fear putting up:
All members see forums immediately

just won't get the message I need to get across to them. They might go...OK, I'll check that out when I get off. Time comes to get off Guild Wars and...they forget because it's late or some such.

Nefser · Jun 10, 2005, 09:29 AM // 09:29

If they are irresponsible guild members who disregard your request to go read the forum message - well, that's a guild issue, not necessarily a game issue. I don't see the necessity of a huge chunk of guild spam when I log in. Either make your point or as stated, say 'see forum/guild-site'.

Besides, depending on where you log in, the local spam will probably scroll the same message off the screen and those same 'lazy' guild members probably wouldn't be bothered enough to scroll back and read it anyway.

RTSFirebat · Jun 10, 2005, 09:44 AM // 09:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nefser

If they are irresponsible guild members who disregard your request to go read the forum message - well, that's a guild issue, not necessarily a game issue. I don't see the necessity of a huge chunk of guild spam when I log in. Either make your point or as stated, say 'see forum/guild-site'.

Besides, depending on where you log in, the local spam will probably scroll the same message off the screen and those same 'lazy' guild members probably wouldn't be bothered enough to scroll back and read it anyway.

Man are you so negative or what? The point he making is most players don't want to have to minise the game, open their browser, load a web site AND then read something.

250 lines to give guild announcements is far too low... and really at the end of the day like you said its not like you have to read it now is it? But guild leaders should have the option to give more information.

Galatea · Jun 10, 2005, 02:56 PM // 14:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhunex

Yeah, I agree. I like to keep most of my Guild Announcements on our forums, but sometimes you really need to utilize the announcement window in-game to the best of your ability, and as bad as it sounds, I've been reduced to abbreviating, using aol speak(ne1, u, etc) to get a big point across, because I fear putting up:
All members see forums immediately

just won't get the message I need to get across to them. They might go...OK, I'll check that out when I get off. Time comes to get off Guild Wars and...they forget because it's late or some such.

LOL - right, I have to do that.

My guild announcement says something like:
REGISTER FOR FORUMS @ URLHERE !! Guild Hall south of Lion's Arch

Because we just got a Guild Hall, but we're on at different times, so I want to make sure everyone knows where it is.. and because every other annoucenment I want to make won't fit, so I have to make them visit the forums. I can't even fit our TS server info in there anymore.

deathwearer · Jun 10, 2005, 03:51 PM // 15:51

i totaly agree with that, the amount of line we have is way too short.

Odai · Jun 10, 2005, 05:50 PM // 17:50

As a lowly guild member that can not create, edit or even respond to an anouncment I have this to say.
Just what do you want to put into an announcement anyway?
An announcement is nothing more than a "headline" directing you to a more detailed story in another location; a location everyone has input to.
And that is all it should be.
As it is (even if it were 250,000 letters long) it is not a very effective means of communiction. It is still one-way. You dictate your thoughts to me but I can't respond with mine. That's not the way to run a guild.
Any guild with worthwhile members learns how to communicate effectively between members. Did you see the keyword BETWEEN in that last sentence?
Of course e-mail helps <- more on that later.
Why not use abbreviations.
Who among you can't translate this:
"GvG battle meet at Ft Rankin strategy discussion Saturday 8PM EST"
Aproximately 65 letters.
or this
"HoH"
If you have anything of substance to say then use E-mail or use your guild's private web site.

Besides the only time I see guild announcements is when I first log in.
The only problem with that is I login and when I hit the play button I go get a pop out fo the fridge and I'm AFK while my toon is loading and the game is happily spamming all the LFG chat; which in turn scrolls my guild's announcement off the screen.

You shouldn't be asking for a bigger announcement window, ask for in-game E-mail; believe me that will be a moe effective tool.

All guilds should have a private web page to carry detailed discussins of anything and everything pertaining to the guild's business.

Talindra Moonbow · Jun 11, 2005, 04:15 AM // 04:15

When you have a small guild and you just want to get a small point across (i.e. the address where our Guild Registration is) you need more room. I don't want to write a novel. The other night I was welcoming a new member into our guild and it took ten minutes to get it to where my abbreviations made any sense. "Wlcme 2 our gld Mst Ryn. Our ste is http://www.guildwarsguru.com/guilds/...and-spells.php Gld 2 hve u on brd" It just doesn't have a real nice feel to it, in my opinion. It's supposed to be an announcement window. What can you announce in so little space? Especially the larger guilds. What happens when they they four, five, or six new people at a time and you want to announce it? Also, when you spend your entire day on the computer for work you don't exactly want to spend your precious playing time building a website for email or a private forum for a small guild. With all the great things ArenaNet is developing, it would be nice to have a few more character spaces for announcements.

Rhunex · Jun 11, 2005, 06:03 AM // 06:03

Yes, and announcements for small guilds are never...small...
It might be nice for the bigger...richer/bottomless wallet guilds to say something like:
TS info @ http://www (someguildname) com
I removed the dots so it wouldn't try to make a link...

My point is, our forum link is this:
http://obsidiangodz.fragism.com/gl-bin/forum/index.php
for the main page...(btw please feel free to stop in, it's still under "extreme" work

)

That takes up 54 characters alone. If I want a meaningful announcement, I need more room than I currently have. For example, one announcement I wanted to make was this:
Check out the new forums at: http://obsidiangodz.fragism.com/gl-bin/forum/index.php Don't forget to register and check the ventrilo info.

That will not fit into the announcement window, tried just now and it stops at "the"
And that's just an announcement, for one thing. I would hate to imagine guilds that don't have a forum they tell their members to go to, and would like to post up new events and such that the guild would try to do(like visits to the Underworld, or Fissure)

Xinaya · Jun 11, 2005, 09:32 AM // 09:32

I agree that it needs to be BIGGER. Sometimes I have an announcement, and two hours later an officer has one... but if she deletes mine to put hers, she knows she'll get it so either both get mangled into an unreadable form, or hers just doesn't get posted.. however important it may be.

I think a mailing system and guild forum should be implemented, though.. to actually communicate within the game. I'm horrible at keeping records.. I don't write down email addresses or keep a book, or mailing list, and my day job really prevents me from wanting to come home and build a webpage. I'd really like to see a HUGE focus on guilds, being that it is "Guild Wars." Not... "Guild Wars + your browser of choice + email client with address book = a fully functioning guild."

Caco-Cola · Jun 11, 2005, 09:44 AM // 09:44

Ok I've only been in a guild once (my own guild actually called Me Myself and Eye since doing it with an I was already taken...damn one man guilders..and yah I'm a hypocrite) but I believe that the reason it's 255 characters long is because that's how long the text bar is.

Why's that important? Because doesn't the guild announcement show up every time you login? So it would have to fit into the bar for it to work properly.

Nelis Bonecrusher · Feb 13, 2007, 10:14 PM // 22:14

/signed, i end up making shortages all the time >__<

Ilithis Mithilander · Mar 12, 2007, 01:53 AM // 01:53

/signed

I also make use of abbreviations and other sorts to get the point across. I sometimes take away a letter in a word just so the message will fit.

Ex: will translates to wil

the-devl · Jun 01, 2007, 12:07 AM // 00:07

i agree this threat, i have problems 2whit the announsements.
i can't write for example the guildsite,the guildmovie(location),when the gvg starts,...
i need to skip worths.

MithranArkanere · Jun 01, 2007, 12:24 AM // 00:24

They could also give them a couple of funtionalities... like BBCode or wikipedia tags such as [B, '''; [I, ''; [URL=http://, [http://...; [LI [UL, * **...

So people could, for example, link the homepage of the guild... then the client will start the browser like when you click any of the F10 links.

Of course, with that, more space would be a must, XD.

Kanyatta · Jul 10, 2008, 01:17 AM // 01:17

Used search, found this. Even 3 years later, it's a good idea

/signed

Now this thread is gonna get locked for necromancy... And if I would have created a new thread, it would have gotten locked for not using search.... I love mods.

ilipol · Jul 10, 2008, 06:42 AM // 06:42

/signed

I would appreciate more space for poems