Curse

Dryndalyn · Jul 30, 2008, 03:41 AM // 03:41

Ok, here’s the thing…I have been playing this game for more than two years and keep hoping that there will be another way to gain a Celestial Sigil other than gaining it in PvP or purchasing it for a huge amount of gold.

My hubby and I still don’t have a Guild Hall for our guild after more than two years of playing because I absolutely refuse to purchase something that can be gained from hard work and effort. However, this time the hard work and effort is somewhat out of my league as I’d have to go through PvP to get the darn thing and I am a PvEer.

I did put in a valiant effort to get to the HoH and am there now but I pretty much didn’t enjoy the trip (which is stupid actually – why do something not enjoyable on off time)? Not only that, the PvPers don’t want a PvEer there anyway so I have had a fairly unsuccessful time being accepted into a group. I only have one character that can manage this expedition and it’s pretty obvious that I am there from the land of PvE.

So why do I have to go through that with the only other option being a sacrifice of a huge amount of gp? My Guild Hall would not be a PvP Hall. It is for PvE outs like porting there when my survivor character is in trouble since exiting the game has killed a character before.

As I said, I absolutely refuse to purchase a Celestial Sigil and the fact that I am all the way into HoH proves how stubborn I am in this matter. However, this is as far as I seem to be able to go. So…

Will there ever be a PvE method of obtaining this thing? Or will I just have to live with out a Guild Hall for the rest of my GWs1 life (which is doable, I suppose *sigh*)?

the savage nornbear · Jul 30, 2008, 03:43 AM // 03:43

10k is not a huge amount of gold.

Trax Reborn · Jul 30, 2008, 03:46 AM // 03:46

seriously, if you pve all the time you should have 10k just from doing missions/questing.

Aneres · Jul 30, 2008, 03:48 AM // 03:48

Two years and you haven't been able to afford the 10-18k it costs to buy a sigil instantly? O___o

the savage nornbear · Jul 30, 2008, 03:54 AM // 03:54

Classy....
For real thought just don't spend money for a few weeks.

Dryndalyn · Jul 30, 2008, 04:00 AM // 04:00

I can afford it. Yes.

It is more the principle of the matter. Why this divide where PvP characters get something as big as a GH by just doing what they normally would when PvEers don't?

Besides, I have 42 characters to put in armor and getting runes and weapons for 42 sets of heroes breaks my budget. Yes, I have too many characters and will never do that again, but because of this I pinch my gp as tightly as I can.

But more importantly, it's the principle of the thing.

the savage nornbear · Jul 30, 2008, 04:03 AM // 04:03

Well, if its the principle, then either lower your standards or go without a guild hall. They were originally for PvP, that is why you have to PvP to get one.

BadAtTheGame · Jul 30, 2008, 04:04 AM // 04:04

this has to be one of the best threads i have seen in a while now.

love it.

the savage nornbear · Jul 30, 2008, 04:05 AM // 04:05

Its a semi valid point. The focus of the game has shifted, so that the PvEers have a need for a guild hall. There should theoretically be a PvE way to get one.

Rothan Celt · Jul 30, 2008, 04:07 AM // 04:07

I see what you mean Dryndalyn but guilds only really 'matter' on pvp side of things if that makes anysense to anyone :s But yes i belive there should be other ways of obtaining the sigs i mean perhaps one should be given at the end of each Campain. Personaly im not bothered becase..... Come on only
10k? :P Dear PM me ingame and i will 'Give' you a signet That way Everybody wins

BadAtTheGame · Jul 30, 2008, 04:08 AM // 04:08

There is.

BUY ONE FROM A TRADER. YOU DON'T HAVE PROBLEMS BUYING RUNES FROM A TRADER DO YOU? OH EM GEE...PROBLEM SOLVED.

the savage nornbear · Jul 30, 2008, 04:12 AM // 04:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadAtTheGame

There is.

BUY ONE FROM A TRADER. YOU DON'T HAVE PROBLEMS BUYING RUNES FROM A TRADER DO YOU? OH EM GEE...PROBLEM SOLVED.

Fail. Runes can drop from Pve monsters. Thus they can be found on the PvE side of things. Sigils however, do not. Thus (are you ready?) they can only be found on the PvP side of things.

Skye Marin · Jul 30, 2008, 04:13 AM // 04:13

It's not lowering your standards.

Do you only equip runes you find in the wild?
Do you only craft with materials you salvage yourself?

Cash is cash, and it's always advised to earn cash the way you know best to buy what you want.

If you'd like a new guild hall, just spend the 10k. You'll find it much easier and rewarding than trying to pick up PvP. If you take the amount of time you'd take to learn how to play at a decent level, and find a strong group to play with, and play PvE regularly instead, you'll make much more cash.

Quote:

Originally Posted by the savage nornbear

Fail. Runes can drop from Pve monsters. Thus they can be found on the PvE side of things. Sigils however, do not. Thus (are you ready?) they can only be found on the PvP side of things.

So?

If you'd like a new guild hall, just buy it with PvE-earned cash. Earning the cash (in PvE) for a sigil is really no different from earning a sigil in the game. If you want it, buy it. Nobody else would give it a second though.

the savage nornbear · Jul 30, 2008, 04:18 AM // 04:18

Don't get me wrong. I bought my Sigil, it just makes sense to me that they be available in some other format. Maybe FoW/Underworld/ToPK/Dungeon chests.

Dryndalyn · Jul 30, 2008, 04:23 AM // 04:23

Well, I am glad you are all finding this entertaining. That’s why I read these forums.

Actually, we had a Guild Hall that my hubby bought and then we changed the name of our guild and have to start all over again to get another one.

One thing that I really enjoy about this game is the goal of having to adventure to go get skills or fighting my way to get to other areas. I have never paid for a runner and will go do skill quest before I will buy the skills because it is fun and it offers a huge sense of reward. I just love this aspect of the game.

I just wanted a PvE goal that was fun to go out and get. The money is not the point. I just like the feeling of achieving the goals through my efforts and wanted that to be one of them.

If you all think that is humorous, so be it. I just wanted to voice my opinion on this issue because I believe that it is valid, even if you all don’t.

Why play the game if you just buy everything (such as paying your way through missions)? That's not playing the game to me, but I understand that it is to some people. Different goals for different folks.

On a side: As for buying runes at a trader, I have far too many characters to dress to avoid that, but a GH, I don't really need that badly. It is just me and my hubby, so who cares? It would just be fun to have that as a PvE goal especially since I prefer to spend my money elswhere.

Dryndalyn · Jul 30, 2008, 04:25 AM // 04:25

Thanks for your support 'the savage nornbear.'

around · Jul 30, 2008, 04:27 AM // 04:27

For a start why do you have 42 characters?

Secondly there are a lot of things PvP characters can't get (chaos gloves, sunglasses etc etc). Why should we have to PvE to get them?

Ghostcell · Jul 30, 2008, 04:29 AM // 04:29

....42 characters and you don't pvp..... ummm you should like, go outside or something.
if your whining about 10k to get a guild hall hate to think what you'll be like if you decide to get all the NPCs.

BadAtTheGame · Jul 30, 2008, 04:30 AM // 04:30

Anet Give Me Every Item In The Game For Free.

/spawn 15% Uncondi Crys

MisterB · Jul 30, 2008, 04:31 AM // 04:31

I could sympathize more with this if Sigils were still in the 100K+ range like they were for a year or so after the game first came out. But then they added a trader, which, as far as I'm concerned, is a viable PvE alternative to HA. Now they are priced below the cost of one piece of some elite PvE armors.

The chief purpose for a guild hall is GvG, which is PvP. If you want a guild hall for PvE, that's fine, but I don't really see the "principle" for awarding a PvP prize for activities in PvE. Again, you can already get enough gold from playing in PvE, anyway.

I really don't understand how buying a sigil from a trader is fundamentally different from paying to register or buying a cape, apart from the difference in price.