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View Poll Results: Should the July MAT be replayed
Yeah, sure 97 65.54%
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Old Jul 27, 2008, 08:26 PM // 20:26   #21
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of course it should but it won't happen. I highly doubt we'll even get any response from Anet to this, let alone an apology.
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Old Jul 28, 2008, 06:42 AM // 06:42   #22
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I'm REALLY surprised by the amount of negative (as in attitude, not answers to the poll) responses to this.
Sure A.net has screwed up a LOT of things lately (balancing, GW:EN in general, lack of public relations), but...
a) its not a workday, the last time they had server issues it was a weekend and the same thing happened, nothing was really fixed till Monday. While it is upsetting, you can't be surprised that 10-15 people won't come in on their day off.

b) do you people honestly think a.net won't redo the MAT? The whole "that would make sense so of course A.net won't do it" arguement isn't exactly valid (by definition it is an illogical arguement). If they were willing to have a "dragon festival redux" event a year ago, I don't see why they won't redo the mat.

Oh, and yes the guy decided to have double HB weekend on a MAT weekend should also be fired (the game wide lag was bad enough, but this made things even worse).

Voted yes of course.
I'm surprised how many people have voted no. Probablly people who either a) did well in the xulai house and don't want to lose their keys b) did well in the Mats (really good accomplishment beating dced opponents) c) have no idea what we are talking about or d) are just trolling to screw up the results (my big problem with sardalaic polls)

If you voted no and have a valid reason to explain to me besides the selfish ones I just listed, we'd all like to hear it.

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Old Jul 28, 2008, 01:31 PM // 13:31   #23
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If you voted no and have a valid reason to explain to me besides the selfish ones I just listed, we'd all like to hear it.
I bet all the people that voted no are pve'rs that go against any pvp related proposal because it's a pvp related proposal.

As to the rest of your post, it's not the lag we are complaining about. Lag happens, of course they didn't mean for that to happen. We are complaining that Anet doesn't even apologize for what happened.
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Old Jul 28, 2008, 07:34 PM // 19:34   #24
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Is Divine pissed at ANet for doing a bad job even though it was pretty predictable? Yes.

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Yes. I had sup at #2. If swiss games weren't messed up, they wouldn't have faced rawr until later probably and got further than top 8.

Doesn't mean you're not terrible at PvE though! Don't change the subject
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Old Jul 28, 2008, 08:08 PM // 20:08   #25
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If you voted no and have a valid reason to explain to me besides the selfish ones I just listed, we'd all like to hear it.
i voted no because lulz gw lulz
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Old Jul 29, 2008, 05:11 AM // 05:11   #26
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I got 100 reward points. I'm greedy. I voted no. :P
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Old Jul 29, 2008, 09:56 AM // 09:56   #27
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they should, i mean, they redid some pve festival over because of lag, than why not this?

or is this yet another sign that Anet is stupid?
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Old Jul 29, 2008, 10:00 AM // 10:00   #28
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or is this yet another sign that Anet is stupid?
No need to put that in a question, Anet is stupid.
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Old Jul 29, 2008, 12:49 PM // 12:49   #29
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THE MITCH IS BACK FOR GOLD

BTW~ I voted no. If anything, they should make August mAT earlier than normal.
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Old Jul 29, 2008, 05:36 PM // 17:36   #30
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BTW~ I voted no. If anything, they should make August mAT earlier than normal.
I would like to hear why that is.
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Old Jul 29, 2008, 05:44 PM // 17:44   #31
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should they? yes
will they? no
did i /sign? obaby!
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Old Jul 29, 2008, 05:50 PM // 17:50   #32
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Old Jul 29, 2008, 06:03 PM // 18:03   #33
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THE MITCH IS BACK FOR GOLD

BTW~ I voted no. If anything, they should make August mAT earlier than normal.
Y giving people less time to get the qps wld be another dum desicion by anet. just do the simplest and most logical and redo it
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Old Aug 01, 2008, 12:35 PM // 12:35   #34
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Old Aug 01, 2008, 03:36 PM // 15:36   #35
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If you voted no and have a valid reason to explain to me besides the selfish ones I just listed, we'd all like to hear it.
Well, I, like the minority, have voted against this. Although I may be skinned alive, or totally ignored, here is my reason (this may turn into reasons if I can think up of something else...):

ArenaNet and NCSoft are NOT responsible for disconnects during the tournaments. It says so in their rules. So, if one person gets disconnected during a match, that means the match continues to go on and not called, unless one team forfeits the match. Even if the disconnect is server-side, ArenaNet and NCSoft cannot be responsible for it. The players participating in the tournaments have agreed to those terms when they decided to play the game, even if they haven't read them. I know most of you people haven't read them because you're complaining about it!

As for the "Dragon Festival Redux" period, even though I'm glad they did it (I actually just got Factions around that time), they didn't HAVE to do it, either, but they did anyway.

Seriously, look at this page and scroll down to "Connectivity". It's about a third of the way down. You'll find the exact message:

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Due to the nature of computers and the Internet, ArenaNet is not responsible for the results of any disconnection or network problems experienced by players.
I honestly don't see how it can be any clearer than this. I honestly can't. So, no, it should not be replayed.

If you actually read through this, thank you for your time.

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Old Aug 01, 2008, 04:10 PM // 16:10   #36
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Pretty much /thread right there.
I agree with this sentiment.

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ArenaNet and NCSoft are NOT responsible for disconnects during the tournaments. It says so in their rules. So, if one person gets disconnected during a match, that means the match continues to go on and not called, unless one team forfeits the match. Even if the disconnect is server-side, ArenaNet and NCSoft cannot be responsible for it. The players participating in the tournaments have agreed to those terms when they decided to play the game, even if they haven't read them. I know most of you people haven't read them because you're complaining about it!
One person? How about entire teams? How about 15 disconnections on both sides? How about nobody connecting at all?

That is beyond stupidity, and there is no reason they shouldn't do a rollback. The least they could do is simply say something about the situation.
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Old Aug 01, 2008, 04:13 PM // 16:13   #37
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I don't agree with JupiterStarWarrior because some matches, entire teams didn't load, and it wouldn't count as a win OR a loss. Some teams finished 2-1 (pd) after playing every swiss round.
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Old Aug 01, 2008, 04:20 PM // 16:20   #38
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meh, For a proper tournament they really should do a redux.
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if i get to repick for the xunui house then easily signed (modem failure so i couldnt make my pick).
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Old Aug 01, 2008, 05:16 PM // 17:16   #39
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ArenaNet and NCSoft are NOT responsible for disconnects during the tournaments. It says so in their rules. So, if one person gets disconnected during a match, that means the match continues to go on and not called, unless one team forfeits the match. Even if the disconnect is server-side, ArenaNet and NCSoft cannot be responsible for it. The players participating in the tournaments have agreed to those terms when they decided to play the game, even if they haven't read them. I know most of you people haven't read them because you're complaining about it!

As for the "Dragon Festival Redux" period, even though I'm glad they did it (I actually just got Factions around that time), they didn't HAVE to do it, either, but they did anyway.
OK, so I see what you're saying, that dc's and error's are not liable to Anet. But, seeing as it was obviously server-side, what I would want at least is an explanation from Anet as to what happened.

Also, they did it for the Dragon Festival, they didn't HAVE to do it. So, why do PvE events get more support than PvP events?
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Old Aug 01, 2008, 05:46 PM // 17:46   #40
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So, why do PvE events get more support than PvP events?
Larger fanbase, catering to more customers and keeping the sheep happy to flock to GW2 when the time comes.
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