Curse

Zinger314 · Jun 07, 2007, 03:53 PM // 15:53

What were the reasons for Faction caps on Balthazar, Kurzick, and Luxon Factions, anyways? Since Faction can only be spent in chunks of atleast 1000 Faction, there's little mechanical difference between a 5000 cap or a 10000 cap or a 100000 cap. It's just annoying to take the time while in a group to go to a Priest of Balthazar or Kurzick/Luxon rewards to redeem the Faction. And annoying is a bad thing, right?

It will be particularly annoying during this weekend's double AB bonus, where you'll hit the cap in about 3-4 matches or so. Then you have to disband your group and reform it. It will[ be annoying.

Thoughts?

Winterclaw · Jun 07, 2007, 03:59 PM // 15:59

I wouldn't have any problem if they got rid of the faction caps.

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It will be particularly annoying during this weekend's double AB bonus, where you'll hit the cap in about 3-4 matches or so. Then you have to disband your group and reform it. It will be annoying.

No arguement there; I think Anet is starting to like annoying the fan base by executing poorly thought out schemes, features, events, and updates.

Every time i lag · Jun 07, 2007, 04:19 PM // 16:19

why dont they did it already anyway?

Gargle Blaster · Jun 07, 2007, 04:24 PM // 16:24

when you earn your pvp titles your cap gets increased...

edit: my bad... apparently its only for Balthazar faction your Kurzick/Luxon faction does not go up with the friend titles

/sign for this to work as other pvp titles...

vergerefosh · Jun 07, 2007, 05:00 PM // 17:00

Balthazar cap could be said to be in place to encourage people not to hold halls for a long time way back when if they used it, but most people would rather win then spend it, so less applicable. Kurzick/Luxon cap could have been put in place in order to explicitly stop people playing map after map in a similar fashion to Balth, but it doesn't make sense anymore, and especially with this weekend should just be removed

axe · Jun 07, 2007, 05:34 PM // 17:34

/signed for Balthz faction

you earned the faction so why does it matter when you spend it.

I would guess that with the Lux/Kurz faction caps that it helps to minimize the effectiveness of leechers? I mean if you could just sit AFK for the entire day and leech faction then when you get a chance go spend it, that might encourage leeching, but I dont know.

Its so funny because the people that probably dont need the high faction caps are the ones that have the high faction caps. Those PvP players with UAX and millions of balth faction dont even need a higher cap because they have nothing to unlock. People that need to unlock things have to spend the faction as they earn it and then when they actually need the faction theyve spent it all trying not to waste it.

If they did something about leechers I would be all for the other factions not having a cap.

william1975 · Jun 08, 2007, 12:38 PM // 12:38

/signed
I'm getting sick of havign to leave AB teams simply because i got to 10,000 points, and since i don't want to waste faction i tend to leave just before getting to 10,000, so say for example i got to 9,200 on my last fight I would leave at end of match so i dont risk losing a few hundred points next win.

Bane of Worlds · Jun 08, 2007, 12:57 PM // 12:57

/signed for increased cap for kurzick/luxon factions per allegiance rank

the regroup isn't a problem for guild groups that go ab together but it does get pretty annoying at times and this change could getbenefits that other pvp titles give like increased Balthazar faction cap.

legion_rat · Jun 08, 2007, 01:29 PM // 13:29

/signed it always seems when i have a great ab team we all have to go turn in points.

~the rat~

Div · Jun 08, 2007, 04:56 PM // 16:56

I don't mind the cap, but I'd like to see an increase in the cap by 5k luxon/kurzick for every level you have in the title.

onerabbit · Jun 08, 2007, 05:11 PM // 17:11

But couldnt people use this to get towns? .. all save up like 50k each

thats 50k that wont get taxed.

u get 10 people in the guild, thats 50k x 10 = 500k
then do the same for the whole alliance .. so 5mil

all put it in at the last min before the border changes .. bang u get a town.

and u just keep putting it in at the last min before the border changes for a big chunk.

i mean a guild of one could own cavalon for a few hours ..

if he saves up long enough as he wont get taxed.

So i think it needs a Cap, maybe what holymasamune sugested

HawkofStorms · Jun 08, 2007, 05:36 PM // 17:36

/notsigned
Onerabbit makes a very good point.

bhavv · Jun 08, 2007, 09:10 PM // 21:10

/signed

My balth faction is always too full and I have to spend it on those stupid tournament tokens I dont even need. Just remove the cap. I would probably have had 10 million by now if there was no cap instead of 1.5 million.

Kool Pajamas · Jun 08, 2007, 09:21 PM // 21:21

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Originally Posted by bhavv

/signed

My balth faction is always too full and I have to spend it on those stupid tournament tokens I dont even need. Just remove the cap. I would probably have had 10 million by now if there was no cap instead of 1.5 million.

Your total faction still increases now even if you are full.

Yawgmoth · Jun 09, 2007, 12:43 AM // 00:43

First, make the (balth) faction useful for something... Now i don't care if some faction gets wasted or i spend them on another stack of near-useless tournament tokens...
If there were no cap, most people would just get instant UAX after release of next campagin/expansion. With those caps it will at least take a couple weeks until faction becomes useless again.

for kurzick/luxon titles i dunno really, maybe those friend of xx should increase those caps.

Random Monk · Jun 09, 2007, 12:59 AM // 00:59

How about adding the people to donate faction to the alliance and trade for the appropriate crafting material in the AB, Jade Quarry, and Aspenwood outposts?

No one would have to leave the team, only have the team wait an extra minute. You can go into the battles with plenty of room to gain faction. You can't go afk forever. You can't use this to "spike" your guild/alliance's faction.

Hyper.nl · Jun 09, 2007, 01:24 AM // 01:24

/notsigned

Not signed until ANet fixes the AFK leeching at Aspenwood.

prism2525 · Jun 09, 2007, 08:15 AM // 08:15

maybe the luxon/kurzick faction... but why on earth does the balth faction has to have a cap? You ain't gonna do anything with that except unblock stuff or buy tokens...

MithranArkanere · Jun 09, 2007, 08:59 AM // 08:59

If the problem is having to disband to use the points, just put the reward and faction NPCs in the outposts.

Increasing the cap would allow less players to save much more faction and make much harder the acquisition of cities and outposts. Newly formed alliances and new players would have a much hard time to get them, and older players with higher ranks would just have to fill their caps and use them at the same time to get anything. The current system prevent Older alliances from resting on their laurels.

If the faction allegiance are to have any kind of 'bonus' that bonus should be that the NPCs ignore your allegiance. The farther you are in the map, the higher you need your rank to be so it does not matter to them the faction you are or have gathered. With level 1, NPCs in Harvest temple would ignore your alliegance, with a maxed allegiance title, NPCs in cities will ignore it.

Perfected Shadow · Jun 09, 2007, 10:29 AM // 10:29

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increase in the cap by 5k luxon/kurzick for every level you have in the title

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just put the reward and faction NPCs in the outposts

/Signed for either