Aug 18, 2008, 02:22 AM // 02:22
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#41
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Censored
Guild: Censored
Profession: R/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GaaaaaH
why stop at GW? the whole internet needs a spell checker and a spelling enforcer (some big guy with a bat to threaten the kiddies into typing right)
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And what language would this enforcer enforce?
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Aug 18, 2008, 02:23 AM // 02:23
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#42
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Academy Page
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Elitist central, it seems....
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Aug 18, 2008, 02:34 AM // 02:34
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#43
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Earthrealm
Profession: W/A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyomi Tachibana
Society needs a stupid filter.
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Hell to the yes lol
But is it ganna be like microsoft SP where u right click? Then they gotta add right clicking in the game lol.
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Aug 18, 2008, 05:09 AM // 05:09
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#44
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Australia
Guild: Lost Templars [LoTe]
Profession: Me/Mo
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Spell check won't take into account local colloquialisms. I'm Australian and most of my guild are British; they always use these random words that are local to them but you'd never find it in a dictionary and they make absolutely not sense to me. Too many people from different nationalities to make this valid or viable.
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Aug 18, 2008, 06:12 AM // 06:12
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#45
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Academy Page
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Woop Shotty
Quote:
Originally Posted by theblackmage
check
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Czech
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Ooh, you got me there. Never even thought of that one.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr.Jones
this tread needs to be closed its turning into "OH LOOK AT ME I CAN BE CLEVER WITH WORDS" fest.
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Er, if what I said came off that way, my apologies. I was using it as an (exaggerated and possibly humorous) example of how people can screw up their spelling so much that a spell check can actually make the text even more incomprehensible ('cept in my example, 'cause it's supposed to make sense if you sound it all out).
Quote:
Originally Posted by pamelf
Spell check won't take into account local colloquialisms. I'm Australian and most of my guild are British; they always use these random words that are local to them but you'd never find it in a dictionary and they make absolutely not sense to me. Too many people from different nationalities to make this valid or viable.
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Add these local colloquialisms to shorthand/abbreviations and the hypothetical spell check's dictionary will be ginormous.
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Aug 18, 2008, 10:02 PM // 22:02
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#46
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Belmont, CA
Guild: Dancin' On Graves
Profession: Mo/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowspawn X
Title says it all guys. Can I get some support?
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My personal dictionary disagrees with you. It's not my fault that you don't know what regastoral or uthinaliz means.
Quote:
Originally Posted by GaaaaaH
why stop at GW? the whole internet needs a spell checker and a spelling enforcer (some big guy with a bat to threaten the kiddies into typing GOOD)
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Fixed. You can spell correctly, but if you're going to ignore grammar, AT LEAST BE CONSISTENT MAN!
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Aug 18, 2008, 10:30 PM // 22:30
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#47
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Oklahoma City
Guild: Noble Order Of Valiant Angels
Profession: Me/
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I've taken offense...
Quote:
Originally Posted by uzumaki
"No thanks." <--- this just looks offensive, a simple nty would be fine...
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I'm sorry, I have to say something on this. I don't care if it's on the forums, in chat, or even text message, I take pride in doing things grammatically correct. I don't like using "nty" or "ty" or "gz" or any of that. I want to be perfectly clear in what I say, so it's "No thank you." or "Thank you." or even "Congrats!" when I speak in chat. Sure it may take some time (even longer if I make any typos), but, to me, I'm stepping away from the now-considered norm of society. I was taught to spell correctly and use words in a coherent sort of way.
Am I saying that those who use netspeak are inferior? No. I like to type "LOL" for "laughing out loud", especially in chat, so I do use it somewhat. But, to say that a simple "No thanks." looks offensive is somewhat degrading. When I do trade with people, I want to make a good impression, so I use proper grammar and spelling when I can.
Going back on topic, there are people who don't know English as their primary language and who actually have learning disablities (for example, dyslexia). A spellcheck could be used as a simple tool for them, but it needs to be used as such: A tool. That's how I learned to spell "definitley", which can be confusing to spell. Note, though, that I do have to actually sit down and type the word because it's my fingers that actually learned.
Those saying that a spellchecker is a bad thing, or is not needed, I actually agree. I'm not going to get hurt over people who misspell, just if it's really confusing to me. For example, if a person's sentence uses too many pronouns, and I don't know what noun said pronoun goes to.
In online forums, though, is a different matter altogether. In forums, you actually should take the time to spellcheck and proofread (to an extent) what you write. It makes you look coherent in whatever you do. Sure, this is online, and you may make several common errors a few times, but there's looking at "i dont care wut ppl sai, so i type liek this" and "I don't care what people say, so I type like this". To me, I've been hammered to type coherently, so it's actually quite difficult for me to type like anything else.
I just can't stand it when people do run-on sentences, misspell common words (it's a lot, not alot), and even make grammatical errors that are easy to avoid (like they're vs their vs their and would of instead of would have, etc) .
Note, that I know I'm not perfect; I may have made some grammar and spelling errors on this post. As I said, I do try, but for some reason, Firefox's spellchecker isn't working the way it should. Stupid spellchecker.
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Aug 18, 2008, 10:35 PM // 22:35
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#48
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Hall Hero
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: California Canada/BC
Guild: STG Administrator
Profession: Mo/
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So does Th Guru but vb doesn't include spell checkers on it software unlike phpbb does.To poster No. 20 not all of us are.
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Aug 18, 2008, 10:38 PM // 22:38
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#49
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Oklahoma City
Guild: Noble Order Of Valiant Angels
Profession: Me/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Trylo
its not so much the spelling... its the "their, there, theyre," "would of," and "awefull." that ones pisses me off. full of awe? i dont think so.
the way i interpret a spell checker is the little red line under misspelled words, which i guess could possibly help a tad... im not sure. as long as it isnt a grammar nazi, sure. i would not enjoy putting ' on all my contractions.
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Even though the apostrophes are actually part of the spelled word, especially its vs. it's (they are two different words with two different meanings: one is a contraction of it is (it's) and the other is a possessive pronoun (its)).
Other than that, I agree with this. Add to that list "a lot" vs "alot", and take out the hypocritical "its" and replace it with "it's", and then it could be more viable.
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Aug 19, 2008, 06:57 AM // 06:57
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#50
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Niflheim
Profession: R/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JupiterStarWarrior
Even though the apostrophes are actually part of the spelled word, especially its vs. it's (they are two different words with two different meanings: one is a contraction of it is (it's) and the other is a possessive pronoun (its)).
Other than that, I agree with this. Add to that list "a lot" vs "alot", and take out the hypocritical "its" and replace it with "it's", and then it could be more viable.
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Don't forget to curb you're dog. Yeah, your is "something belonging to you", you're is abbreviation of "you are", same as I'm or they're.
Oh, and just because there is word "full", doesn't mean all words with the same ending should have "ll". Like useful, grateful, meaningful.
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Aug 19, 2008, 07:15 AM // 07:15
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#51
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: By the Luxon Scavenger
Guild: The Mentalists [THPK]
Profession: N/
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Some of my spells really need to be checked.
OoU sucks now.
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Aug 19, 2008, 01:13 PM // 13:13
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#52
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Site Contributor
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: UK/norway
Guild: Order Of The Etherbloom Crown [ZEN]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sante_Kelm
/signed
Dark Age of Camelot had a custom filter that allowed you to change colloquialisms to fit your literary needs and upkeep your mental well-being. It was an amazing system at the time--lol became 'very funny', brb turned into 'one moment' and rofl morphed into 'well spoken!' Ah, for the days of role-playing on Percival...
But, as others have suggested, you could turn off local and nearly achieve the same effect.
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sounds good :3
/signed
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Aug 19, 2008, 08:16 PM // 20:16
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#53
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Oklahoma City
Guild: Noble Order Of Valiant Angels
Profession: Me/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Abedeus
Don't forget to curb you're dog. Yeah, your is "something belonging to you", you're is abbreviation of "you are", same as I'm or they're.
Oh, and just because there is word "full", [sic] doesn't mean all words with the same ending should have "ll". Like useful, grateful, meaningful.
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Oh, yeah! I totally forgot about the "your" and "you're" dilemma. *smacks head* Duh!
For some reason, to me, the "there" in your second sentence seemed wrong, but it's correct (I had to test "their" and "they're" against the sentence). But, it should read "...there is a word "full"...
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Aug 19, 2008, 08:49 PM // 20:49
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#54
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: USA
Profession: Mo/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by uzumaki
wtf... No. Grammar & correct spelling ingame make you look intelligent.
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Corrected that for you. Arrogance has nothing to do with it. I can understand using abbreviations here and there but not for at least half the words you type in a sentence. By doing so tells me you're either lazy or not that bright to spell out whole words.
Last edited by bryann380; Aug 19, 2008 at 08:52 PM // 20:52..
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Aug 19, 2008, 09:02 PM // 21:02
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#55
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Land of Confusion
Guild: [swea]
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanyatta
No, GW does not need a spell check.
It just needs less stupid people.
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Qft.
People just have to grow up and learn how to spell properly.
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Aug 19, 2008, 09:09 PM // 21:09
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#56
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jan 2006
Guild: [Here] | CKOD
Profession: E/R
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JupiterStarWarrior
Even though the apostrophes are actually part of the spelled word, especially its vs. it's (they are two different words with two different meanings: one is a contraction of it is (it's) and the other is a possessive pronoun (its)).
Other than that, I agree with this. Add to that list "a lot" vs "alot", and take out the hypocritical "its" and replace it with "it's", and then it could be more viable.
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but the ' key is... so far away... D: (i like to assume people know the difference between its and it's...)
oh and i think i forgot "your and you're."
it just makes you look less stupid. i admit that i sometimes just stop reading an entire post because of the amount of grammatical and spelling errors, because 90% of the time the poster doesnt have a coherent statement.
oh and how is "No thanks." offensive? (i would really enjoy seeing someone try to argue that).
Last edited by Trylo; Aug 19, 2008 at 09:13 PM // 21:13..
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Aug 19, 2008, 09:21 PM // 21:21
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#57
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Sep 2007
Profession: A/E
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Its a game ffs, people get on to have fun relax and not worry about having to do crap like spell check. Seriously just have fun in the GAME.
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Aug 19, 2008, 09:36 PM // 21:36
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#58
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Wilds Pathfinder
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So, if it's "just" a game, and "just" spelling, at what point in our lives do we make proper language and communication important? It's "just" texting, it's "just" chat, it's "just" writing an essay, it's "just" my college application, it's "just" my job application, it's "just" my job.
The onus is on every generation to be better than the last. Pick up your IQ from the floor and make this world move ahead in an intelligent manner.
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Aug 19, 2008, 11:13 PM // 23:13
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#59
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Australia
Guild: Lost Templars [LoTe]
Profession: Me/Mo
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What about local spellings as well. Australians spell armour with a 'u' Americans with just an o. There are many other words like that, like words spelt with 's's where American's spell with a z. Which spelling would be the universal spelling? Seriously, this just causes way too many problems. Just keep your own grammar and spelling up to scratch and let others be uneducated English (or other language) destroyers. This is really not something I think Anet should spend time on.
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Aug 19, 2008, 11:20 PM // 23:20
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#60
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Censored
Guild: Censored
Profession: R/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pamelf
What about local spellings as well. Australians spell armour with a 'u' Americans with just an o. There are many other words like that, like words spelt with 'S's where Americans spell with a z. Which spelling would be the universal spelling? Seriously, this just causes way too many problems. Just keep your own grammar and spelling up to scratch and let others be uneducated English (or other language) destroyers. This is really not something I think Anet should spend time on.
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If they should implement a spell check it would have to be in proper English, not the clone languages of the Colonies.
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