Curse

Fox Mulder · Sep 01, 2008, 06:01 AM // 06:01

111111111111

FlamingMetroid · Sep 01, 2008, 06:12 AM // 06:12

how masochistic do you have to be to want to PUG Slaver's?

Aera · Sep 01, 2008, 06:27 AM // 06:27

So basically you want the farm to be nerfed so you can pug slaver's.

Play with guildies etc etc because farming is also making the game more fun for a lot of players.

Valkyria · Sep 01, 2008, 06:32 AM // 06:32

Above said,no need to add anything.

**Marty Silverblade** · Sep 01, 2008, 07:06 AM // 07:06

Nothing has changed. People used to complain that there were always so much LFG ursan blah blah blah and now theres LFG VS farm. Pugging just doesn't work.

ZeAliX · Sep 01, 2008, 07:27 AM // 07:27

You could just bring heroes and henches.. problem solved.

spun ducky · Sep 01, 2008, 07:32 AM // 07:32

Slavers was actually pretty easy with just heroes and hench. The only part that was any challenge at all was Duncan just because they wand him and own themselves. I really see no reason for a nerf at all to the run.

Arkantos · Sep 01, 2008, 07:32 AM // 07:32

Hi guys, I don't have a guild so I have to pug, and I can't find a pug because everyone is farming. Please nerf the farm so I can find pugs again!

Sums up what you said pretty nicely. /notsigned

plasmasword · Sep 01, 2008, 07:42 AM // 07:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox Mulder

Has anyone tried finding a group for anything other than VS farming in Umbral Grotto lately? It's impossible. Two suggestions. 1. Move Thommis to a deeper more difficult area of the dungeon. 2. Make the dungeons easier for heroes w/ 2 humans or even easier w/ 1 human. Farming is ruining the game for a lot of players Anet. Is there any other end game scenerio that is affected by farming? Thanks.

When will noobs learn that Farming is the game (for PvE players at least).

/not signed

TheBuck · Sep 01, 2008, 07:57 AM // 07:57

Farming is for those that dont enjoy redoing the quest/missions over and over. ive been playing since week1 and thats just my view. i love to pug and do missions and quest over, pugging is were the funs at for those of us that have been around a while.

Arkantos · Sep 01, 2008, 07:58 AM // 07:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by plasmasword

When will noobs learn that Farming is the game (for PvE players at least).

/not signed

Wrong. Dress up is the game for PvE players, farming just helps people play dress up.

Cebe · Sep 01, 2008, 08:06 AM // 08:06

/signed for making the "farm" more difficult, but for a different reason to the OP.

When Voltaic Spears come down in price to 50k each...20k each...10k each, and every player and his Grandmother has them on heroes you can just imagine what the crying about the drop in price will be like.

When a farm is found for a high-end weapon of course people will farm for it, but it will be such a shame if the price of the spears does plummit, since it'll be yet another high-end weapon which has lost it's "prestige".

Mr HaXx · Sep 01, 2008, 08:18 AM // 08:18

/signed,
same reason as Celestial Beaver.

shogun avatar · Sep 01, 2008, 08:32 AM // 08:32

/signed

I'm not high end trader and don't own or like any voltaics, but when a farm like that comes out, it really takes out all joy when such weapon drops for non farmer.

See what happened to elemental sword, colossal scimitars, sephis axes etc...

rohara · Sep 01, 2008, 09:59 AM // 09:59

slavers (in its entirety) is easy enough to complete with the same build used for the farm. try it some time. done it 3 times this week so far. me and a guildie usually get all 3 dungeons up to duncan done in less than an hour.

did "the farm" plenty this week too, and not one voltaic drop. farm all you want, the chances of getting one is still slim to none. so /notsigned. its not like the raptor farm, in which you are guaranteed an elemental sword every day. the "voltaic farm" is hardly a farm at all...

Monk Gsb · Sep 01, 2008, 10:19 AM // 10:19

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Originally Posted by rohara

slavers (in its entirety) is easy enough to complete with the same build used for the farm. try it some time. done it 3 times this week so far. me and a guildie usually get all 3 dungeons up to duncan done in less than an hour.

did "the farm" plenty this week too, and not one voltaic drop. farm all you want, the chances of getting one is still slim to none. so /notsigned. its not like the raptor farm, in which you are guaranteed an elemental sword every day. the "voltaic farm" is hardly a farm at all...

elemental sword is worth 5k max.
voltaic is worth 100+w/e the current price is.
i know what one i would rather farm.

Luminarus · Sep 01, 2008, 10:40 AM // 10:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monk Gsb

elemental sword is worth 5k max.
voltaic is worth 100+w/e the current price is.
i know what one i would rather farm.

Unless ur extremely lucky, ull probably get 20 elemental swords, before 1 VS.

The thing that makes the VS so useful, is that you get 2 drops, either golds, or 700g+ mats. That means (if u sell unid) 1.4k every 8 minute. Thats about 12k an hr, with the possibility of an 100k+ spike.

the_jos · Sep 01, 2008, 10:53 AM // 10:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox Mulder

Has anyone tried finding a group for anything other than VS farming in Umbral Grotto lately? It's impossible. Two suggestions. 1. Move Thommis to a deeper more difficult area of the dungeon. 2. Make the dungeons easier for heroes w/ 2 humans or even easier w/ 1 human. Farming is ruining the game for a lot of players Anet. Is there any other end game scenerio that is affected by farming? Thanks.

Did you ever try finding an non-speedclear group for UW?
Non cookie-cutter FoW?
Or a team in DoA? Deep? Urgoz?

The only reason there are many players in the outposts is because there is profit, not because they want to team up with you for some stupid full dungeon.

Forgive me my harsh comment, but this has nothing to do with farming.
It has to do with you seeing a lot of people in an outpost and not being able to team up with them because you want to do something else.
Happened in the past over and over again.

You want to know what I think ruined the game?
The players themself combined with titles.
I have seen waves and waves of players all doing the same kind of farms, being UB, SC or VS, whatever is the current FotM.
I recently asked an ex-guildie if his entire alliance was also almost fully in VS farm and he told me I was right.
This weekend I pinged a skillbar in AC to pass a link and the first comment I got was 'noob skillbar'. Well, not exactly FotM but at least I can play something else besides ele nuker, perma or FoC.
And people only saw my bar, not the team I was using for synergy.
Many players think they are good while all they can is run some build.

And titles.....
Well, since one needs 30 max titles and that will cost about 5M gold at least one needs to farm his/her behind off.
So everyone and his/her mother will farm VS while they can since that will help them get more cash for titles or whatever.
Or for the prestige of having the item, but what's the value of an item when everyone can have one....?

JDRyder · Sep 01, 2008, 12:18 PM // 12:18

farming = guild wars.

Vspears have not gone down at all so far, i sold my req 12 for 100k+65 ecto the other day

its like jos said as well, if there was no Vspear farming there it'd be NO1 there, so your still not going to be able to pug the dun anyway. My guild did slavers a lot before the VSF got out, and there was never any 1 there.

My guild does VSF a TON and we only have had 6 drop for us in 200+ runs

Proff · Sep 01, 2008, 01:18 PM // 13:18

Umbral Grotto's been dead since about a month after EotN release. Once the VS farm is nerfed or the prices aren;t worth it any more all the people WILL in fact leave. If ANet can revive Slavers then great, if not they should leave things the way they are and let the prices fall.