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Divine Hybrid · Aug 30, 2008, 06:17 AM // 06:17

Seeing as GW2 is mainly being made because Anet was limited with what they could do with GW1, I am expecting a lot of changes.

Hopefully, at least some of those changes include changes for professions.

What I am about to write is what I hope will happen with my profession of choice, the paragon.

Looks:
I think that Paragons, at least male Paras, bear a strong resemblance to Spartan Hoplites, except just a "little" more flamboyant. I have no problem whatsoever with skirts or anything, but if they were slightly more darker, I would be happy. I guess a larger variety of armor might help, and the ability to dye different parts of the armor as well.

Maybe if Paragons looked a little less like this...

And more like this(of course, not exactly like this)...

One of my biggest problems with Paragons, is that for head gear they have crests. If paragons had helmets, I think that alone would of added a lot more variety.

For example, the helmet that the leader in the above picture has, could be a helmet that would be very hard for paragons to get, and would be a symbol of wealth/skill to have one.

Attributes:
I would like an additional attribute for paragons, and well, every class in general. I think that every profession should have two different types of weapons available to them. Warriors would be the exception with their Axe, Hammer, and Swords.

For Paragons, their primary weapon would remain a spear, and their secondary would be a Xiphos.

From: Wikipedia

Quote:

The short sword was a secondary weapon, used if and when spears broke, or if the phalanx broke rank. When the enemy retreated, hoplites might drop their shield and spear, and pursue the enemy with their swords. A disadvantage to the xiphos though was that it was extremely heavy and did not provide as much reach as most swords from that period.

I think this weapon would be a great addition to a Paragon. As it is right now, paragons are only effective through the buffs they give to their allies. By themselves, they are barely a threat at all and are easily taken care of.
The Xiphos would be a solution to this problem. It will be one handed, but paragons will not be able to wield a shield with it. Therefore, it should do a significant amount of dps to make it worthwhile.

That about sums it up for what I am looking forward to about Paragons in GW2. Is some of it a little too over the top? Maybe, but I don't think so.

Please do comment on my ideas, I don't really care if the comments are positive or negative, I think I will be able to handle it.

So now that you guys have heard about what I want from my profession, I hope you guys can tell me something about yours. If yours happens to be a paragon as well, please do post your ideas, I would love to hear everyone's opinions.

Brimstonez · Aug 30, 2008, 06:21 AM // 06:21

Secondary's are set in place to characters can utilize other weapons...

As for the headgear, and other armors, I wholeheartedly agree. I would like to see a paragon or a derv in something other than a skirt or dress...

Divine Hybrid · Aug 30, 2008, 06:28 AM // 06:28

True I suppose, but thats from other professions, would be much cooler to have a choice of weapons from your own profession.

And yeah, I agree with you. Paras and Dervs both could use more variety in their armor, hell, I think every profession should have more variety, the more the merrier.

unkleanone · Aug 30, 2008, 06:36 AM // 06:36

Hate to be one of those downers in a thread but I believe I recall reading some info on classes (very limited obviously) but I believe they said something about most of the professions that are currently in the game probably won't make it into the next game atleast not at first.

Divine Hybrid · Aug 30, 2008, 06:46 AM // 06:46

I hope that is just a rumor. Anet could disappoint a lot of people by limiting the classes, me being one of them.

I guess there is a possibility of them merging some classes together, but its hard to believe that would work out well.

Smilin' Assassin · Aug 30, 2008, 07:03 AM // 07:03

mm .. I would nerf Shadosteps for a start ~ ya rly

oh, you are talking about appearances~!

well, I'd love there to be more non-ninja assassins .. tho ofc give that option to the multitudes who'll want it

meh, am I the only one who thinks assassin=/=ninja~?! I'd never even heard o Naruto till I played GW, lulz

and less spikey costumes .. more normal, blend into the crowd type clothes ~ maybe even the ability to mimic the enemy (a la the TF2 Spy)

I like to think a specialised killer is good with all weapons, including ranged & unarmed, but would focus on one style (which changes from one assassin to another). A crit hit should do more regardless of weapon type, as conditions &/or +damage (as opposed to %damage), thus making small fast weapons more desirable

*But yes, as the posts above say, maybe NONE of the professions will make it to GW2 except in merged form (well, look at Diablo)

Divine Hybrid · Aug 30, 2008, 07:10 AM // 07:10

Well, appearance is something I really wanted to change when it came to my profession of choice, the paragon. But what you want from your profession isn't just limited to that. Im too lazy to get technical, but if you want to, go right ahead!

About assassins, yeah I have to agree with you, their a little bit too much "naruto-ish".

Axel Zinfandel · Aug 30, 2008, 07:29 AM // 07:29

In general, I want to see Weapons, shields, ect be more widely used by different professions without the need to choose a secondary to do so. GW2 needs a lot more versatility in terms of weapons, and combat system. Right now it is boring as all hell, for PvE at least.

As for classes, and it's not -my- class, but I always thought it'd be interesting to play mesmers -completely- different then they are now, and play more of a "mindf*ck" roll and a psychic roll, much like fighting Psycho Mantis in MGS

but for those of you who don't get my reference, imagine blackout actually blacking your opponent's screen, some skills switching your opponent's skills, ect.

Divine Hybrid · Aug 30, 2008, 07:38 AM // 07:38

Well, from what I have read, I heard some armor will not be profession-based in GW2. About mesmers, wow, that does sound f'ing amazing, but that would be way too overpowered, unless every profession was able to do something like that, but then that would be chaos.

Limu Tolkki · Aug 30, 2008, 08:00 AM // 08:00

My main is ele and heres some things i'd like to see changed. First and most important make eles do proper dmg. Atm eles do so crappy dmg in hm and afterall, eles are meant to do dmg. Another thing is to add more and change current attributes, not just the common fire, water, magic, earth but something more magic. Then, make all attributes useful. Atm only fire is useful in pve. Eles should also look more like magicians. So please add us skirts and dresses and like everything else, i want them to be more fantasy looking. And last thing, make eles do big crits. So ppl are like wow, that eles hits hard

Divine Hybrid · Aug 30, 2008, 08:09 AM // 08:09

I see what your trying to get at Limu Tolkki, but I thought Eles did fairly good damage, maybe Im wrong though. I guess they could infused Fire, Water, Earth into just one, Elemental magic, and then make two other types of magic go along with it.

Rhamia Darigaz · Aug 30, 2008, 08:12 AM // 08:12

i'd change my profession by having it playable in game.

profession: gamer
primary attribute: they see me rollin'
this attribute gives the gamer the ability to roll characters of whatever profession he wants to play at the time without becoming overly attached to one.

yeah, overall i think that'd be pretty sweet.

Gill Halendt · Aug 30, 2008, 08:13 AM // 08:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Divine Hybrid

I hope that is just a rumor. Anet could disappoint a lot of people by limiting the classes, me being one of them.

I guess there is a possibility of them merging some classes together, but its hard to believe that would work out well.

They're not going to limit your choice in the end. The new system is just going to be completely different, so no direct comparison is possible.

They're probably going for something similar to Age Of Conan. Mind you GW2 is being conceived as a mostly soloable adventure, so most of the professions will need to be completely reworked, even if they make it and retain their name and role in the new game.

Divine Hybrid · Aug 30, 2008, 08:20 AM // 08:20

Yeah, your right about that Gill Halendt. I guess that GW2 being mostly soloable is good in some aspects, but then whats the point of making it a MMORPG then? Why not stick with the current concept GW1 has now? I thought that Anet wanted GW2 to be a more social game, that would explain why they are going for persistent worlds instead of instanced.

Hyper Cutter · Aug 30, 2008, 08:34 AM // 08:34

I'd like to see mesmers able to control monsters, maybe turning them into allies for X amount of time or something...

Gill Halendt · Aug 30, 2008, 08:39 AM // 08:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Divine Hybrid

I thought that Anet wanted GW2 to be a more social game, that would explain why they are going for persistent worlds instead of instanced.

Exactly. But, a persistent world also means you have to be able to play solo as much as you can play with other players around.

Limu Tolkki · Aug 30, 2008, 08:55 AM // 08:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Divine Hybrid

I see what your trying to get at Limu Tolkki, but I thought Eles did fairly good damage, maybe Im wrong though. I guess they could infused Fire, Water, Earth into just one, Elemental magic, and then make two other types of magic go along with it.

Yeah well in pvp and nm the dmg is quite good. But in hm foes have so massive armor (against elemental) that elemental dmg just isnt useful.

silavor · Aug 30, 2008, 10:09 AM // 10:09

What would I change about Elementalists? Besides making them useful in HM damage-wise, I would really like to see earth magic made viable in GW2 if such a skill line even exists. At the moment earth magic itself lacks focus. It tries to nuke, spike, defend, and mess with your enemies' ability to move around or hit while at the same time trying to apply conditions with PROJECTILES. At the moment, earth magic fails at all of the above, except in very gimmicky situations and farming.

MithranArkanere · Aug 30, 2008, 10:41 AM // 10:41

I would make Elementalist even more powerful, give them melee quarterstaves (like the hammers the bandits us in pre-Searing) and give them Elemental Forms.

KoKoS · Aug 30, 2008, 10:44 AM // 10:44

Haha! the appearance u imagine is so stolen from the ancient "This is Spartaaa" dudes xD
and Xiphos is a sword... can't paragons just buy another sword?(also the picture of xiphos looks a lot like Quivering Blade(unique))
but your thoughts are good and i agree with some of them...

can u also explain this?: It will be one handed, but paragons will not be able to wield a shield with it.
one handed but no shield?