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Puddin Cheeks · Sep 18, 2008, 07:03 PM // 19:03

Okay, so this may sound odd, but it seems like a simple way to make RA little more enjoyable. I am one of the players that is a parent of 2 kids and I don't have a lot of time to form friendships with people in TA or HA. The only way for me to make use of my in-game time on the game is playing RA because I don't have to wait around for 45 minutes to find a team just to go in and get rolled. So I propose a slight modification to the structure of RA.

First off, I am unsure of the exact mechanics of party matching. My guess is that it only matches you with players in the same district as you, after a win you are probably playing against teams from another district in your same region (eg, american, international,...).

Second, what I propose is make a district called "ranked RA" where only gladiator (2or3) and above could get in that way they are paired with players of "similar" caliber. I say "similar" because I don't think it would be feasible to make a req. of g4 or higher for a district.

Then change the mechanics, where if a team from the "unranked" district wins 10 they go to the "ranked RA" district, then 10 wins takes them to TA.

So a team in the "ranked" and above district goes to TA after 10 wins.

Now people don't just leave after 10 wins, when your team goes to TA, but you do go up to a supposed "higher level of play." That way people have a better chance of achieving 15 or 20 win streaks to help with the grind of getting glad points.

If there is no way to divide the districts up, you can just make it a "ranked" RA Outpost on the battle isle that you have to show your gladiator title to an NPC to get into.

Also, if it was made into its own outpost the current RA could operate like it is. There is nothing stopping the higher ranked players from going there, but the "ranked RA" would probably make for better competition and be a little more entertaining to veteran players. You will still probably get the lamers, but hopefully it would be less often.
Give me some feedback and let me know what you think.

Sun Fired Blank · Sep 18, 2008, 07:15 PM // 19:15

Why would you encourage them even more? RA shouldn't even reward glad points. There are so many bad RA players wearing RA earned ranks that really need to just go do something else.

I'd have sympathy, but the fact you've had time to earn a glad rank from RA implies to me that you have the time to make those connections you claim you don't have time to make.

Puddin Cheeks · Sep 18, 2008, 07:21 PM // 19:21

I am only Glad 1 and all of the friends I used to play GW with have moved on the different games. I am not even one of the people that would get to play in the "ranked district" and I like playing with/against good players. The point being is it sucks when everyone leaves after a 10th win and that seems to be a pretty big fault in RA. What is wrong with earning rank in RA anyway. There are legitimately good players that battle there on a regular basis. There are more lamers and general low-life's there than most other places, but don't discredit the whole idea of RA. There are almost always 4 active districts going and you can't really say that for many other places in the game.

Steboy93 · Sep 18, 2008, 07:24 PM // 19:24

Ranked RA is know as TA, go there for a chance to get more glad points without your team leaving after 10 wins.

Puddin Cheeks · Sep 18, 2008, 07:26 PM // 19:26

you apparently haven't been to TA lately.

Dead is an understatement, and when it isn't you got high rank fanboys that only play with their guildmates.

don't troll plz.

Shayne Hawke · Sep 18, 2008, 07:45 PM // 19:45

You pretty much want to organize Random Arenas?

Sun Fired Blank · Sep 18, 2008, 08:02 PM // 20:02

The root of the problem is that RA lets these bad players get a shiny rank they couldn't otherwise obtain in TA, because they're shit. Even though TA players are often miserably bad and even though most RA teams already run TA meta, RA players are shit and everyone on an RA team is equally shit, and they can't cut it, so they leave to keep actually grinding their title.

The fact is that if every player in RA was an okay player, I would easily and frequently max glad streak out of RA. But I rarely make 10 with even a promising-looking RA team, even though I max glad streak on a fairly regular basis from TA (and very rarely with the same build).

Why would I facilitate rewards for bad players?

Puddin Cheeks · Sep 18, 2008, 08:16 PM // 20:16

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Originally Posted by Sun Fired Blank

The root of the problem is that RA lets these bad players get a shiny rank they couldn't otherwise obtain in TA, because they're shit. Even though TA players are often miserably bad and even though most RA teams already run TA meta, RA players are shit and everyone on an RA team is equally shit, and they can't cut it, so they leave to keep actually grinding their title.

The fact is that if every player in RA was an okay player, I would easily and frequently max glad streak out of RA. But I rarely make 10 with even a promising-looking RA team, even though I max glad streak on a fairly regular basis from TA (and very rarely with the same build).

Why would I facilitate rewards for bad players?

It is a lot harder to get glad points in RA just for the fact that you always have 1 or 2 players that don't have a clue. Why does a rank bother you anyway. Its not like it effects the game for you if someone got a rank differently than you. You may as well be pissed that people farm margonites for lightbringer points. I would rather be teamed up with those players than deal with leetest like yourself. Just because you and 3 other guys can copy paste a gimmick from pvx wiki and beat random teams comes from RA doesnt make you any better than they are. When you have people bragging about 140 win streaks in TA, it isn't because they were good. The fact is that you run stock builds and think your more special than someone in RA that is "chancing" at getting a decent team. The kind of person you seem to be is the reason why TA is dead and won't be revived anytime soon.I bet you ran the 3 monk 1 W smite team as well too. LOL, and you think you're good.

Dr.Jones · Sep 18, 2008, 08:25 PM // 20:25

when did RANDOM AREANS become Not RANDOM?

Puddin Cheeks · Sep 18, 2008, 08:44 PM // 20:44

It is truly sad the state of the GW community anymore. You can't get a discussion going about changing anything, because of the haters and leetest trolling threads instead of actually playing. Move on to another game if you can't let someone bring up an idea to make GW a little more enjoyable for the people that actually "DO" play RA. If you don't play RA regularly then don't post in this thread please.

FlamingMetroid · Sep 18, 2008, 08:48 PM // 20:48

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Originally Posted by Puddin Cheeks

If you don't play RA regularly then don't post in this thread please.

Most people aren't masochists, true story

FoxBat · Sep 18, 2008, 08:57 PM // 20:57

It's called the International district. Not all great players, but they often have at least r2.

You still lose alot because Random Arenas are...Random.

enter_the_zone · Sep 18, 2008, 08:58 PM // 20:58

Just create a separate RA-based title, maybe?

Teutonic Paladin · Sep 18, 2008, 09:05 PM // 21:05

Great idea, won't happen. People are too busy fingering their butt holes and trying to shoot down anything in sight to see a good idea right in front of them. This would allow people who may not have a group they TA/HA/GvG with to have fun in a casual environment. It'd still be Random Arenas, your teams just wouldn't suck so hard. There's no reason not to add anything that makes a game more enjoyable (unless it ruins competition).

Swamp Fox · Sep 18, 2008, 09:12 PM // 21:12

not sure if someone has said this already, cause most of the people are flaming, but from my experience, The Korean Districts is where more experienced people go and the less experienced stick to american districts and what not, but like Steboy had said a ranked RA dis would be more like TA, what fun is there if you dont have to play with idiots some times?

talldervish · Sep 18, 2008, 09:21 PM // 21:21

shes not saying ORGANIZE RA shes saying she does not want to waste her time playing with noobs that run random builds b/c they just started...or they are just horrible and that if people with higher g rank people that are somewhat good enough to grind a title would have a special district where they can play with other people that have g rank

Sun Fired Blank · Sep 18, 2008, 09:32 PM // 21:32

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It is a lot harder to get glad points in RA just for the fact that you always have 1 or 2 players that don't have a clue.

Most players who think they have a clue don't have a clue. The results of RA matchs are very seldom the result of superior gameplay.

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Why does a rank bother you anyway. Its not like it effects the game for you if someone got a rank differently than you.

I think it would be nice if rank did more than quantitatively measure a player's experience and literal success. The reality, I know, is often different; you have no way to know. In practice, the game doesn't care about how you got your rank. For example, a hero r12 from iway is the same as r12 from sway is the same as r12 from balanced is the same as r12 from omegaspike is the same as r12 during prime hours is the same as r12 during dead hours is the same as r12 on a tainted is the same as r12 on RC monk is the same as r12 on a thumper is the same as r12 on a fire ele. The same applies for TA / RA. But here's a novel thought. Maybe I think it's wrong that people can play shit and play like shit and be rewarded for it? I understand that life isn't fair and the game isn't fair, but why would I endorse your idea of rewarding bad players?

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because you and 3 other guys can copy paste a gimmick from pvx wiki and beat random teams comes from RA doesnt make you any better than they are. When you have people bragging about 140 win streaks in TA, it isn't because they were good.

They are good. The fact you're stupid and you think they aren't doesn't change this fact.

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The fact is that you run stock builds and think your more special than someone in RA that is "chancing" at getting a decent team. The kind of person you seem to be is the reason why TA is dead and won't be revived anytime soon.I bet you ran the 3 monk 1 W smite team as well too. LOL, and you think you're good.

I've run everything under the sun, what's your point? I'm a very impartial player, I run whatever strikes my fancy.

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This would allow people who may not have a group they TA/HA/GvG with to have fun in a casual environment. It'd still be Random Arenas, your teams just wouldn't suck so hard.

Newsflash: these people suck nearly as badly, and there's no reason they can't move to TA.

Puddin Cheeks · Sep 18, 2008, 09:50 PM // 21:50

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Originally Posted by Sun Fired Blank

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As I said earlier stop posting in this thread, i don't give a shit what a lame ass troller has to say about anything.

Master Ketsu · Sep 18, 2008, 09:53 PM // 21:53

There already is one though...

credit · Sep 18, 2008, 09:57 PM // 21:57

There's one problem though, you're assuming that ranked people are actually good.

Which most are not.

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