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AshenX · Jan 19, 2008, 11:32 AM // 11:32

I would like to see weapon drops in Prophecies and Factions be inscribable. If not all of the time then at least in HM. Some of my favorite weapon skins (such as gothics, jades, ambers, etc.) are extraordinarily rare in inscribable versions despite the fact that the weapons are not really that rare in their respective campaigns.

Ashen

Julia-Louis Dreyfus · Jan 19, 2008, 11:34 AM // 11:34

this has been discussed to all hell on here
the general consensus is no, old school>new inscription crap

MithranArkanere · Jan 19, 2008, 01:13 PM // 13:13

No, that is 'some forums' consensum.

Almost ANYONE I asked ingame says that Prophecies and Factions drops are 'merchant crap', with those exact words, just in different 5 languages.

Inscriptions worldwide is MUST.

- Without Inscriptions:
*Prophecies
*Factions
*Realms of the Worlds.

- With inscriptions
*Nightfall
*Eye of the North (Havng many skins from all previous campaigns)
*Battle Isles (Haing ALL skins from all previous campaigns)

Since inscriptions are part of the PvP system, that makes them CORE, and being a core System, it MUST be worldwide, just like Insignia.

Julia-Louis Dreyfus · Jan 19, 2008, 01:51 PM // 13:51

why change what isn't broken? and if prophs and factions drop suck 90% of the time like everyone that complains, wouldn't be finding a 15^50 TYRIAN weapon make it all the better? or is everyone just that lazy and rather have inscription crap 100% of the time, as opposed to an actual rare drop?

EDIT:also ask those in game players when GW was its best. I guarantee most will say back when it was just prophs or when factions was introduced. notice there was no inscriptions then and no one complained about crappy worthless drops

MithranArkanere · Jan 19, 2008, 02:08 PM // 14:08

No one buys a fellblade 15^50 when they can get an inscribable one.
Only those that cling to the old prices and values say that.
But if you go to an outpost and see what people usually buy or sell, you'll see that when you let someone choose between an inscribed Storm Bow, most of the time they will get the Storm Bow, becuase if they anytime decid to change the 15^50 for a +5 energy, they CAN.
And even more if they are cheaper.

People no longer pay for rarity, pay for usefulness and skins.

Since the Zaishen Chest and the GW:EN drops have almost any skins inscribed, the drops in Factions and Nightfall are worthless.

There is almost nothing you can't get inscribed, but the things you get in Prophecies and factions are just almost useless most of the time.
Shields with only one property and without upgrade slots, weapons with requirements to one attribute and properties for other, items with properties that cannont be matched with inscriptions and upgrades in PvP, becoming slightly unbalanced, req 7 and 8 perfect weapons...
Who would pay for 'rarity', when such rarity no longer exist, and the only thing that can be seen is the skin.
Would you go 'trade' with all the people in th party so anyone see that it has a fixed 15^50 modifier?
Ha!
Clinging to old things.
That's all.
Cling to the price they had to pay for a puny 15^50 Item and now they can's stand they can be obtained much easily.
No, no. More inscriptions so more combinations can be made.
But inscriptions worldwide.

No inscriptions is only a problem.

The new system is inscriptions, and it's core, and it should, no, it MUST be worldwide.

Pyro maniac · Jan 19, 2008, 02:17 PM // 14:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

No one buys a fellblade 15^50 when they can get an inscribable one.
Only those that cling to the old prices and values say that.
But if you go to an outpost and see what people usually buy or sell, you'll see that when you let someone choose between an inscribed Storm Bow, most of the time they will get the Storm Bow, becuase if they anytime decid to change the 15^50 for a +5 energy, they CAN.
And even more if they are cheaper.

People no longer pay for rarity, pay for usefulness and skins.

Since the Zaishen Chest and the GW:EN drops have almost any skins inscribed, the drops in Factions and Nightfall are worthless.

There is almost nothing you can't get inscribed, but the things you get in Prophecies and factions are just almost useless most of the time.
Shields with only one property and without upgrade slots, weapons with requirements to one attribute and properties for other, items with properties that cannont be matched with inscriptions and upgrades in PvP, becoming shilty unbalanced...
Who would pay for 'rarity', when such rarity no longer exist, and the only thing that can be seen is the skin.
Would you go 'trade' with all the people in th party so anyone see that it has a fixed 15^50 modifier?
Ha!
Clinging to old things.
That's all.
Cling to the price you had to pay for a puny 15^50 Item and now can be obtained much easily.
No, no. More inscriptions so more combinations can be made.
But inscriptions worldwide.

No inscriptions is only a problem.

The new system is inscriptions, and it's core, and it should, no, it MUST be worldwide.

no you're wrong
tyrian prices > inscrip prices

as for the idea:
It would be nice, but I won't care if they don't implement it.
Tho Anet always wanted to have the good/nice looking stuff available for everyone. So it would make sense to do this.

Diddy bow · Jan 19, 2008, 02:32 PM // 14:32

/notsigned

What deos making HM drops more worthless achive?

MithranArkanere · Jan 19, 2008, 02:40 PM // 14:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyro maniac

no you're wrong
tyrian prices > inscrip prices

I'm not talking about the auction/forums prices.

I'm talking about things you SEE ingame.
At least in European districtis.

Yeah, you may get more gold from one of those fixed mods things.
But while you'll get sold 1 out of inscribed 100 drops for 1..10k, you won't sell more than 1 out of 1000 non-inscribed drops, and only to those that are also confused with the old system, and only because those that sell them won't sell them for less, because they also cling to the old system.

You can recognize them, because they spend much more time selling one single item, and tend to put 'no noob prices' in their party panel descriptions.

Kanyatta · Jan 19, 2008, 06:10 PM // 18:10

I don't think we need weapon prices to drop any more than they already are

Although it would be nice to get a Gothic Shield or whatever to have any mod you want
/notsigned

genofreek · Jan 19, 2008, 06:46 PM // 18:46

/signed, there are some Canthan drops I like, but I'm not going to use them if I can't mod them my way. :P As Mith already said, nearly all of the drops outside NF/GW:EN, outside worthwhile salvagables and greens, is merch fodder.

Anduin · Jan 19, 2008, 06:53 PM // 18:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diddy bow

/notsigned

What deos making HM drops more worthless achive?

As you can take insrciptions off of otherwise useless items and use them to make useful items, it actually makes something that was once worthless of worth.

Think outside the box, and not just your narrowed vision.

HawkofStorms · Jan 19, 2008, 07:47 PM // 19:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

I'm not talking about the auction/forums prices.

I'm talking about things you SEE ingame.
At least in European districtis.

Trade Spamming People in game are IDIOTS.

They spend there time trying to rip people off. WTS Cruel Axe haft 1.5k. WTS req 10 inscribable Long Sword 100k+15 ectos.

The fact is... people "sell" at those inflated prices all the time. But VERY FEW people buy. 50-80% of the trade spam in any given day is a rip off with highly inflated prices.
The reason you should rely on forum and auction prices is because that is where buyers go to find things (because its easier to search for specific items)... not sellers.

Yawgmoth · Jan 19, 2008, 08:12 PM // 20:12

No please no.
In the first place inscribable items should have never been added to the game.

All possible droppable Tyrian and Canthan skins already have inscribable versions. Do not nerf the good oldschool versions, they should still drop in all modes.

But as they already are in the game anyway and no way to get rid of them I have an idea. It's the way it should have been done in Nightfall aswell, that the vast majority of items should drop non-inscribable, but a small % of them could drop inscribable (inscribable = perfect at will, it shouldn't be common as dirt as it is now).
1. Only gold items should have a possibility of dropping inscribable, so there's no blue/purple perfect item nonsense.
2. the chance for getting inscribable gold should be 0-10% in normal mode and 10-20% in hard mode
3. the chances for inscribables could be higher depending what they drop from, example: x2 chance from bosses, 25-50% chance from end of dungeon chests, 50-100% chance from elite chests like hoh, zaishen, end of uw/fow/deep...

Snow Bunny · Jan 19, 2008, 08:12 PM // 20:12

no

I enjoy the q8 15/-5 Fellblade that dropped for me the other day.

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Kanyatta · Jan 19, 2008, 08:15 PM // 20:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yawgmoth

1. Only gold items should have a possibility of dropping inscribable, so there's no blue/purple perfect item nonsense.

This is the only part of your post I really agree with. The whole thing of people with a purple Enameled Shield that is req 9 dmg -5/20% hp +30 is really dumb. Incsribable should be limited to gold items

bhavv · Jan 19, 2008, 10:18 PM // 22:18

Well, I wish the celestial weapons from the weh no su mission were inscriptable

Julia-Louis Dreyfus · Jan 19, 2008, 11:21 PM // 23:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

No one buys a fellblade 15^50 when they can get an inscribable one.
Only those that cling to the old prices and values say that.

thats enough stupid for me to stop coming on this thread
look at the WTB forum or the high end or even the sell, a lot of tyrian stuff on there, and a lot of buyers

angmar_nite · Jan 19, 2008, 11:23 PM // 23:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

No one buys a fellblade 15^50 when they can get an inscribable one.
Only those that cling to the old prices and values say that.
But if you go to an outpost and see what people usually buy or sell, you'll see that when you let someone choose between an inscribed Storm Bow, most of the time they will get the Storm Bow, becuase if they anytime decid to change the 15^50 for a +5 energy, they CAN.
And even more if they are cheaper.

People no longer pay for rarity, pay for usefulness and skins.

Since the Zaishen Chest and the GW:EN drops have almost any skins inscribed, the drops in Factions and Nightfall are worthless.

There is almost nothing you can't get inscribed, but the things you get in Prophecies and factions are just almost useless most of the time.
Shields with only one property and without upgrade slots, weapons with requirements to one attribute and properties for other, items with properties that cannont be matched with inscriptions and upgrades in PvP, becoming slightly unbalanced, req 7 and 8 perfect weapons...
Who would pay for 'rarity', when such rarity no longer exist, and the only thing that can be seen is the skin.
Would you go 'trade' with all the people in th party so anyone see that it has a fixed 15^50 modifier?
Ha!
Clinging to old things.
That's all.
Cling to the price they had to pay for a puny 15^50 Item and now they can's stand they can be obtained much easily.
No, no. More inscriptions so more combinations can be made.
But inscriptions worldwide.

No inscriptions is only a problem.

The new system is inscriptions, and it's core, and it should, no, it MUST be worldwide.

Way to kill the OP's idea with bad reasoning.

/not signed

Gregslot · Jan 19, 2008, 11:24 PM // 23:24

Anet said they plan to add inscribable weapons to cantha and tyria.
But it doesnt really matter to me.

But also, it is really frustrating to get a cool skin with bad mods, or almost perfect mods.

ShadowsRequiem · Jan 19, 2008, 11:25 PM // 23:25

Imo most factions gold and tyrian are shit but when you find one thats good it pays off.

Sells like 2-3 times as much too lol

Leave stuff as it is..... OR make them inscript I couldnt really care then I'd have a perfect amber aegis being the rarest shield in game XD inscripts gogogogogo!