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Phoenix Tears · Mar 17, 2008, 06:36 PM // 18:36

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Originally Posted by The Way Out

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uhm, little missunderstoodment ? don't know, but looks so ^^

Everythign I said was:

If the PvP Side wants to have those special PvE Gloves and Headgears for their PvP Only-Characters, ...

...then should link Anet for fairness to the KoaBD-Title the Emotes of the Hero-Title, so that both sides - PvE and PvP Characters will have both their separate ways to archieve those Emotes.

Because nothing is more annoying for a pure PvE-Only Character, than to get forced to play PvP for one of the nicest things out of the content of GW and that are those special EMOTES.

But the only arguements that all those No-sayers have is, that maxing KoaBD is easier, then farming long enough fame to get enough by playing only PvP and that those people fear the annoyance of childish arrogant kiddies, who think, that they have to provoke all and everythign then, by spamming /emote in towns...
But that are imo both only arguements with no weigth.

Those Emotes are Content of the Game and should belong to both modes, regardles if you decide yourself now, only to play PvE, or only to play PvP. Both modes should provide their own ways to receive the special emotes.

Same should count then for fairness also to for pvP, by giving PvP Characters the possibility to archieve somehow the special Gloves and Headgears for their Characters. Why should PvP's not be able, to create also characters, which wear those thigns, wen they want them...

Same should also count then also for Ranger Pets...PvP'er should be able to unlock with Balthazar Points Pets for Rangers for PvP... and then when creating a Ranger in PvP Mode, the player receives then the free choice out of his unlocked pets, which one you want to have for the character.

But like I said on an other topic about this: Anet cares a shit for such a fairness, their concept about a merged PvE/PvP with different awards was from the begin on the biggest crap.

Good Developers would know, that such a crap concept only will split the community into 2 sides and that different awards will make both sides against each other only jealous, especially when those awards force players to play a gameplay mode, they don't want to play, because they absolutely don't like it.

The Size of the part of the GW Community, which prefers PvE over PvP is very much bigger, than vice versa. Anet's dev's should have know, that they surely make not much friends with such stupid concepts about gameplay mode different "trophies".

It's not our fault, when PvP'ers can't accept, that the KoaBD-Title is for the Emotes the atm best solution for this problem.
When KoaBD R6 alone is not enough - fine, should anet link it with other conditions, that have to be done also, like maxing all Monuments ect. pp
But they should finally do something about this unfair gameplay GW is in both modes filled with, which makes ever Side A happy, but kicks Side B's Ass.
Both modes have such unfair things, like mentioned above and such things must not be in a really GOOD game.

When it would be ever the intention of Anet to make both sides happy, they would never make such retarded shit, like forcing PvE'ers to play High End PvP for Emotes and giving on the other side PvP'ers not High End PvE Equipment and only limited Profession Pets (ya, limited to 1, wow a dumb Wolf, whats a shitty wolf, when you could have instead theoretically a shiny nice Rain Bow Phoenix ? -.-)

Nah, this discussion about these unfair thigns has imo finally to come to an end, through an Update of Anet, which will fix those things so that PvE's will never be anymore anywhere in the game forced to play High End pvP, to receive things and PvP's will get for their characters all the same stuff, like PvE'ers, but have those thigns as usual to unlock first through Balthazar Points for their Account...

and all this stuff would find finally an end and if anything about the emotes will end to massive spam provocations through Emotes can Anet also fix this quit by disabling /emote in towns, btw give players the option in the menu, if they want to see thsoe emotes in towns or not.

Abled = you see them then in town

Disabled = people can spam then so much /emote as they want, u see nothing.

I think this must be really an alternative arguement everyone should be able to accept, who still can't accept such an alternative, must be really one of the most selfish PvP'ers on the World >.>, because with such changes will have both sides something from it.

Talarian · Mar 17, 2008, 07:15 PM // 19:15

I have a question that I am genuinely curious about, I'm not taking the mick or anything, but why would a pure PvPer buy EotN anyway? It only added like 10 skills that are not PvE-only. As far as I can tell, EotN was SPECIFICALLY a PvE expansion...

The Way Out · Mar 17, 2008, 07:17 PM // 19:17

Hmmm.... wasn't talking to you, however, you are free to augment my posts as needed. I distinctly remember typing the word "snip"...

Yeah... I was trying to prove this point about people putting words in my mouth...

Tamuril elansar · Mar 17, 2008, 09:18 PM // 21:18

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Originally Posted by Phoenix Tears

Same should also count then also for Ranger Pets...PvP'er should be able to unlock with Balthazar Points Pets for Rangers for PvP... and then when creating a Ranger in PvP Mode, the player receives then the free choice out of his unlocked pets, which one you want to have for the character.

pvp rangers shouldn't have pets, let alone nice looking ones.

also, why do pve-ers want that emote so badly?

Kanyatta · Mar 17, 2008, 09:19 PM // 21:19

I hate the fact that it seems like many PvEers blame the PvPers for the whole fame = emote situation. No one asked for the emote, it's not our fault. I don't know a single decent PvPer that flaunts their emote. I use it as a joke among friends, I don't know of anyone outside HA in seriousness. I know it is used in HA as a sort of "status symbol" which I absolutely hate.

Basically: Please don't use the argument "T3H PVPERZ BE TAKIN MY GLOVES! I DESERVE AN EMOTEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! THOSE NUBS!!!"

Phoenix Tears · Mar 17, 2008, 09:48 PM // 21:48

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Originally Posted by Tamuril elansar

pvp rangers shouldn't have pets, let alone nice looking ones.

also, why do pve-ers want that emote so badly?

Why, here are 3 really simple reasons !!!

1. They are beautiful (at least personally the Phoenix looks just awesome to me)

2. They could be used maybe for Role Play ? Ever thought about that ?
Yeah, such people exist in PvE, which do in it RP >.>

3. To have something to be more proud about your Character and the Effort behind your Work of making out of a "Nobody" a powerful looking "Hero", but that as nothing to do with provoking other peoples and being the last Asshole with a gigantous E-Peen >.>
The Title of God Walking among mere Mortals alone is very quick boring, but to have with the Ranks also some kind of Eye Candy makes the whole thing direct more interesting and awesome, but also motivating to work on all that grind.
On titles alone react so or so no people, they have ever first to click your character and you have to activate the title to be shown to others ...
This gets annoying, when you want to show someone your archievements, that really wants to see them and you have to switch then ever between your titles, when it would be just simple enough to type in instead /emote ...

Theres a last semi alternative that I heard:

When giving pvp'ers emotes, for KoaBD, they should have other color, as those from pvp ?

would be an alternative, but would totally look stupid, when you use e/mote and for example appears then a blue phoenix oO instead of a red one, where phoenix's are fire birds >.>

I think this is also a good alternative, but it would be simple enough to give the pve-version an other background aura...

PvP ones comes with such a Ring-Aura ...
PvE ones could come then instead without this Ring-Aura.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4vWT153OJQ < Phoenix

look at it and than just imagine the same without this Ring-Aura for PvE ...

this way people will see then, if someone got the emote through pve, or pvp

Kanyatta · Mar 18, 2008, 12:54 AM // 00:54

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Originally Posted by Phoenix Tears

but that as nothing to do with provoking other peoples and being the last Asshole with a gigantous E-Peen >.>

You made a good joke there. I wish you could hear me lol irl.

At least, I think I know what you're saying, it's hard to decipher behind that mask of horrible grammar.

Honestly, for some personal advice, Phoenix Tears, have you noticed whenever you post your long-winded explanations to something, you always get ripped apart because

A. You have bad ideas
B. You have terrible grammar
C. All of the above.

Seriously, you might want to think about just stopping, I don't think I've ever seen anyone whole-heartedly agree with you.

Darkobra · Mar 18, 2008, 02:20 AM // 02:20

Because everyone who plays Guild Wars is a native and fluent speaker of English.

Talarian · Mar 18, 2008, 02:27 AM // 02:27

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Originally Posted by Darkobra

Because everyone who plays Guild Wars is a native and fluent speaker of English.

They aren't? Scandal!

Stockholm · Mar 18, 2008, 02:33 AM // 02:33

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Originally Posted by Kanyatta

You made a good joke there. I wish you could hear me lol irl.

At least, I think I know what you're saying, it's hard to decipher behind that mask of horrible grammar.

Honestly, for some personal advice, Phoenix Tears, have you noticed whenever you post your long-winded explanations to something, you always get ripped apart because

A. You have bad ideas
B. You have terrible grammar
C. All of the above.

Seriously, you might want to think about just stopping, I don't think I've ever seen anyone whole-heartedly agree with you.

This is an insult to people who atleast try to communicate in another language than their native language and should be a banneble offence on GWG. This is supposed to be an "Elit Fansite".(Elite does not stand for English speaking)
Sorry for off topic

Aba · Mar 18, 2008, 02:34 AM // 02:34

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Snow Bunny · Mar 18, 2008, 04:54 AM // 04:54

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Originally Posted by Darkobra

Because everyone who plays Guild Wars is a native and fluent speaker of English.

If you're going to make an argument with english speakers on an American forum, I'd hope I'd be able to understand you.

I don't support this idea, but Phoenix is a. bad b. not very intelligent c. full of bad ideas d. enamored by the concept that concept classes are serious business.

Again, I'll say it. Why should we, as PvPers, care?

miles · Mar 18, 2008, 07:20 AM // 07:20

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Originally Posted by The Way Out

Do you have KoaBD? If not, don't knock it. Grinding endless for titles is the same as grinding PvP, except PvP is much more enjoyable (both are mindless). I really don't understand where PvP only players get the idea that it is so difficult compared to PvE. So many of you gimmick build, it isn't that difficult for me to figure out what you are running in a matter of two casts.

what pvp are you talking about that is even comparable to pve in difficulty? Alliance Battles? Tombs?

The Way Out · Mar 18, 2008, 01:07 PM // 13:07

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Originally Posted by miles

what pvp are you talking about that is even comparable to pve in difficulty? Alliance Battles? Tombs?

The only challenging PvP I have encountered is in HA and GvG (and that is sometimes). For the most part, a large potion of the PvP world run gimmick team builds (or just builds in general). Start PvPing a little and you will see how common builds are. It isn't rocket science. PvE isn't difficult, btw. I refered to them both as grinding, because that is what it is. Doing the same thing to get the same results.

Darkobra · Mar 18, 2008, 02:45 PM // 14:45

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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

If you're going to make an argument with english speakers on an American forum, I'd hope I'd be able to understand you.

All we can do is try to understand them. Admittedly, Phoenix does have some terrible ideas, but he can't help the way it's laid out. It's very hard to perfect a language. Even I'm struggling to learn Japanese fluently, my shirousagi.

Vanquisher · Mar 18, 2008, 02:59 PM // 14:59

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Originally Posted by The Way Out

The only challenging PvP I have encountered is in HA and GvG (and that is sometimes). For the most part, a large potion of the PvP world run gimmick team builds (or just builds in general). Start PvPing a little and you will see how common builds are. It isn't rocket science. PvE isn't difficult, btw. I refered to them both as grinding, because that is what it is. Doing the same thing to get the same results.

Without trying to be a dick or anything, saying PvE and PvP are equally challenging is just dumb. Achieving KoaBD isn't difficult, merely somewhat time consuming. When people (as a collective) jump on my back for saying that, and start spouting off with "where's your KoaBD, then?" - I don't have it, I don't really care about getting it either.

But I don't care about giving Chaos Gloves or whatever for Reward Points either.

The Way Out · Mar 18, 2008, 03:03 PM // 15:03

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Originally Posted by Vanquisher

Without trying to be a dick or anything, saying PvE and PvP are equally challenging is just dumb. Achieving KoaBD isn't difficult, merely somewhat time consuming. When people (as a collective) jump on my back for saying that, and start spouting off with "where's your KoaBD, then?" - I don't have it, I don't really care about getting it either.

But I don't care about giving Chaos Gloves or whatever for Reward Points either.

Again, didn't say they were equally challenging. I said they are both grinding. PvP is grinding just like PvE is grinding. You learn how to play both and you grind away.

I D E L E T E D I · Mar 18, 2008, 03:06 PM // 15:06

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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

If you're going to make an argument with english speakers on an American forum, I'd hope I'd be able to understand you.

I don't support this idea, but Phoenix is a. bad b. not very intelligent c. full of bad ideas d. enamored by the concept that concept classes are serious business.

Again, I'll say it. Why should we, as PvPers, care?

its an american forum? where does it say that i must have missed it, thought it was international

phan · Mar 18, 2008, 03:09 PM // 15:09

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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

If you're going to make an argument with english speakers on an American forum, I'd hope I'd be able to understand you.

Ahum ? pls explain yourself =)

cataphract · Mar 18, 2008, 03:14 PM // 15:14

Do you live on Mars on something? Internet IS America. /doh
There is an American in each and every human - waiting to be liberated.