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VinnyRidira · Dec 16, 2008, 10:13 PM // 22:13

How about each hero having his/her own unique skill which can be selected for his/her skill bar. Just like we have PvE skills, let them have their own unique skill.

Axel Zinfandel · Dec 16, 2008, 11:11 PM // 23:11

Hah, yeah, As long as they are so bad that no one would ever use them.

/notsigned :/

Zodiac Meteor · Dec 16, 2008, 11:19 PM // 23:19

/signed

yeah, players can't use them but the specific hero can. Jora, ursan blessing. Etc.

isamu kurosawa · Dec 16, 2008, 11:21 PM // 23:21

I have one thing to ask.

Why?

komma · Dec 16, 2008, 11:23 PM // 23:23

no thanks, more imba pve skills is baed.

Arkantos · Dec 16, 2008, 11:43 PM // 23:43

Heroes are useful enough, I see no reason to give them unique skills.

shoyon456 · Dec 17, 2008, 12:24 AM // 00:24

I dont know if this is original, but it definitely sounds like it! I really like this idea, it provides a reason to use a specific ele/whatever hero over another besides having different skins. It could even be used to test race-specific qualities that may be implemented in gw2.

However, let it be noted that if anet were to toy around with hero-specific skills/benefits, it MUST be confined to PvE. I mean, its PvE, who cares anyways? It's like PvE only skills, if you have a problem with them, don't put the hero-specific pve only skill on him.

Good idea! (earnestly)

Marverick · Dec 17, 2008, 12:54 AM // 00:54

I think this would be too much for ALL heroes...
however, for non-human heroes like Pyre and Razah, I don't see how giving them a (balanced) unique skill would hurt.

Dei Gracia · Dec 17, 2008, 12:55 AM // 00:55

/signed

Im all for it. I think its a good idea, i would also like to see 7 Heros. That would also be nice.

Whenitrainsitpours · Dec 17, 2008, 02:46 AM // 02:46

/notsigned

Triple necro doesn't make PvE easy enough, huh?

Arkantos · Dec 17, 2008, 02:56 AM // 02:56

Quote:

It's like PvE only skills, if you have a problem with them, don't put the hero-specific pve only skill on him.

That's not the point. The point is, why buff something already strong? PvE is already easy as shit, we don't need heroes to be made stronger.

Elder III · Dec 17, 2008, 02:58 AM // 02:58

I'll sign it as long as the elete skills are not any better than what they already have - - -

therefore I propose that they be termed "unique skills" instead

Silverhand · Dec 17, 2008, 04:01 AM // 04:01

Eh I'm not big on this idea
It's like people said heroes are alrdy good enough
This would just make pve more imbalanced
And it would give more reasons to not play with real players

Owik Gall · Dec 17, 2008, 08:05 AM // 08:05

If this would have been good enough for the game the idea would have existed when Nightfall came out. Implying that the thought may have gone through Anet, but wasn't implemented. Of that reason I am sure you'll find many explanations, including from the team itself.

/no

VinnyRidira · Dec 17, 2008, 08:13 AM // 08:13

I am already happy with how powerful heroes are. It would be nice in the story line if each had his own specific skill. In terms of the discord way comment, I guess once all the cry babies have whined enough that will be nerfed, just as Ursanway was. It is a pity that heroes are not account wide and get unlocked per character instead of being obtained. Also the limit of 3 would have been nice if they had made it full single player party.

MithranArkanere · Dec 17, 2008, 11:36 PM // 23:36

There is no need to make those skills all-powerful.

But they should go with the Plot.

For example:
Dunkoro's Combat Tactics.
E:5 C:2 R:2
Skill. Dunkoro analyzes the target creature and gets information about it.
- The information will be anything used in battle mechanics: Raze, profession, level, Health, Energy, De/Regenerations pips, Armors(including waknesses), Damage absortion, effects, etc...
- Works in any creature, even spirits and allies.

Jora's Bear Form.
She's a Norn. She recovered her power. She should proudly use it.

Margrid's Corsair Net
Not precisely the strongest of skills. But all corsairs except Margrid have it.

Olias' Immortality
E:25 C:5 R:60 S:50%
Enchantment Spell. If Olias dies under the effect of this enchantment, he is resurrected automatically after death with no dead penalty, 50% Health and 50% Energy. Olias will be immune to any attack damage of skills during the next 5 seconds after being resurrected.
-This guy was brought back by Grenth. So it would make perfect sense to be able to sacrifice half his health to put himself an enchantment that makes him 'immortal'.

Zhed's Trumple
Strong, yet requires close range, not always the best thing for an elementalist, but usable.

Vekk's G.O.L.E.M. 0.9beta.
It should be like the the other four asura summons sumoning, sommoning a weak golem.

And things like those. And, of course, all of them should require quests or missions to be done so they become available.

Konig Des Todes · Dec 18, 2008, 12:49 AM // 00:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

Olias' Immortality
E:25 C:5 R:60 S:50%
Enchantment Spell. If Olias dies under the effect of this enchantment, he is resurrected automatically after death with no dead penalty, 50% Health and 50% Energy. Olias will be immune to any attack damage of skills during the next 5 seconds after being resurrected.
-This guy was brought back by Grenth. So it would make perfect sense to be able to sacrifice half his health to put himself an enchantment that makes him 'immortal'.

... -reads both the old quest dialogue, and the new quest dialogue-

No where does it say Olias died. Just that he saw a vision from Grenth and reverted back to the religion of the Old Gods, instead of following the Unseen Ones.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Olias

Lionguard Figo sent you? Good. A demon tried to drag me through one of their portals. I saw darkness beyond...and strange tentacles. I could hear terrible weeping, as if a thousand chained souls suffered in agony. Then, a skeletal hand reached out to take mine, leading me from that place of torment.

Nothing in the new quest about his past.

Anyways, on topic:

While I did suggest that Heroes get the non-elite PvE-only skills of their faction/race, I am going to have to disagree with this on one point:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arkantos

Heroes are useful enough, I see no reason to give them unique skills.

I will, however /sign to give Henchmen these unique skills.

shoyon456 · Dec 18, 2008, 01:16 AM // 01:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arkantos

That's not the point. The point is, why buff something already strong? PvE is already easy as shit, we don't need heroes to be made stronger.

The point of hero-specific PvE only skills, as i see it, isn't to make the game easier, but instead to add more variety and flare.

Yes, PvE is easy as shit, and its not going to get harder, so why concern yourself with semantics just to protect your "oh noez, now ze nubs r going to be 1337 like me" mentality.

The point of this would not be a "buff" but more like a reward that spices up a game that is (face it) going downhill. For storyline heros, the skills should be a reward for beating/getting to a certain point in the campaign. For non-storyline heros, uberly hard quests are in order.

Darkobra · Dec 18, 2008, 02:07 AM // 02:07

Do you intend these to be used in Hero Battles and PVP too? Either way, I don't believe that heroes really need something extra to make them useful.

shru · Dec 18, 2008, 05:01 AM // 05:01

If it ain't broke, don't RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO with it.