Curse

Phantom Flux · Dec 20, 2008, 10:03 AM // 10:03

I have legendary guardian, obviously a level 20, enough skill points and farmed gold to keep me financially stable.

I would like to try and get my pve to benefit and keep improving through Guild Wars and not feel bored getting something for nothing.

I am motivated by the Shiro Return and Nightfall books because not only you get xp and gold, but Kurz, Lux, Sunspear and Lightbringer points to work towards a title.

However, in prophecies you only get points and gold. There should be a unique benefit for turning the book in other than more pointless points and gold. Plus the books already clog up too much storage. Anet needs to give better reason why we should even bother with the flameseeker prophecies books, especially for Legendary Guardians.

the Puppeteer · Dec 20, 2008, 11:05 AM // 11:05

NF book gives points to some titles - Cantha also gives to some titles, Proph has no titles so gives more to exp & gold. That would mean there should be a new title for proph. to which most ppl will say
/notsigned for more titles.

I didn't vote btw cus of limited options - I dont want this but I still play pve...

upier · Dec 20, 2008, 11:13 AM // 11:13

/No.
Less grind is better.

X Shadow Reaper · Dec 20, 2008, 11:20 AM // 11:20

The only good thing about this book is if u are going through prophecies otherwise i wouldn't recomemend in doing it.

Shayne Hawke · Dec 20, 2008, 01:45 PM // 13:45

And that unique benefit would be...? More gold and experience? There's no PvE-related title or whatever in Prophecies for the book to have an extra benefit towards.

Phantom Flux · Dec 20, 2008, 01:52 PM // 13:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by X Shadow Reaper

The only good thing about this book is if u are going through prophecies otherwise i wouldn't recomemend in doing it.

Which is EXACTLY THE POINT!!
You get more gold and more points than the other books? SO WHAT! The gold really isn't shit. The points aren't anything either. Of course you'd get more, but enough the reward sitll isn't crap. It would be good for a new title or something else, such as a random hot mini pet or whatever.

Make the book even more worth doing, otherwise its just a wasteful piece of smite!

ajc2123 · Dec 20, 2008, 02:13 PM // 14:13

If you can come up with a reasonable reward without adding a new title, Then I will /sign. I also believe they need something else since they are the less rewarding of the books, but for the life of me I cannot think of a reasonable prize.

Maybe a new tamable pet? That is lvl 5 for NM book and lvl 15 for HM book?

Sharkman · Dec 20, 2008, 03:19 PM // 15:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phantom Flux

It would be good for a new title or something else, such as a random hot mini pet or whatever.

OH GOD NO! My storage couldn't handle another item in it! With all these damned books and junk.

The book is optional and purely supplemental to the rewards you already get by /winning a campaign - protector/guardian if you did the bonuses, and the mere satisfaction of knowing you beat a campaign. If you're too conceited to take FREE gold/skill points, thats your problem.

Oh and the poll options are a little biased, dont you think?

Tyla · Dec 20, 2008, 03:20 PM // 15:20

Quote:

NO - I dont even care for pve anymore and if I can't benefit, others shouldn't either!

lol

12 characters

MithranArkanere · Dec 20, 2008, 03:39 PM // 15:39

The only thing I can see fit it's giving something else, like a random Elite Tome of any profession.

But nothing like another Title. I can't imagine how would it be to add a Shinning Blade title, with skills and all that stuff.

shoyon456 · Dec 20, 2008, 04:00 PM // 16:00

Of course there should be, but the problem is that there really isn't anything unique to prophecies other than the "feel."

Instead they should be working on making the Titan Quests after prophecies actually mean/count for something. At least an HoM statue

zelgadissan · Dec 20, 2008, 04:35 PM // 16:35

Lack of poll options makes me a sad panda.

Personally I've got a couple characters who haven't done all the Tyria quests, they'll do the books. My main certainly isn't though, the only book he'll touch is HM Shiro's Return.

The books need something more, but I have no idea what. So far the best idea in here is Mith's.

Konig Des Todes · Dec 20, 2008, 04:39 PM // 16:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phantom Flux

I have legendary guardian, obviously a level 20, enough skill points and farmed gold to keep me financially stable.

Some people like using consumables, which take up both skill points and gold. Some people use gold to buy more armor. Some people have more than one character which means more armor and weapons to buy.

See how this statement already fails? Just because something goes for you, doesn't mean it goes for everyone else.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phantom Flux

I would like to try and get my pve to benefit and keep improving through Guild Wars and not feel bored getting something for nothing.

There are more things than missions.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phantom Flux

I am motivated by the Shiro Return and Nightfall books because not only you get xp and gold, but Kurz, Lux, Sunspear and Lightbringer points to work towards a title.

However, in prophecies you only get points and gold. There should be a unique benefit for turning the book in other than more pointless points and gold. Plus the books already clog up too much storage. Anet needs to give better reason why we should even bother with the flameseeker prophecies books, especially for Legendary Guardians.

Prophecies gives more experience and more gold. Fair trade.

Adding another benefit to be similar to the Factions, Nightfall, and Eye of the North books means adding more grind titles. If you do not like the book, do not do the books. You do not need to have them in your inventory if you will not do them.

Also, once again, people make the worse poll options. You do not need to add a monologue to the options, just put "Yes," "No," and "Maybe."

Edit:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phantom Flux

Which is EXACTLY THE POINT!!
You get more gold and more points than the other books? SO WHAT! The gold really isn't shit. The points aren't anything either. Of course you'd get more, but enough the reward sitll isn't crap. It would be good for a new title or something else, such as a random hot mini pet or whatever.

Make the book even more worth doing, otherwise its just a wasteful piece of smite!

So wait, the rewards are not crap... so they are good?

The books were made for an extra reward for those going through the missions.

I think this was done to prevent what happened with HM EN books.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sharkman

The book is optional and purely supplemental to the rewards you already get by /winning a campaign - protector/guardian if you did the bonuses, and the mere satisfaction of knowing you beat a campaign. If you're too conceited to take FREE gold/skill points, thats your problem.

This. The reward isn't from the book, the book is the bonus.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoyon456

Instead they should be working on making the Titan Quests after prophecies actually mean/count for something. At least an HoM statue

You mean at least making them repeatable. I want to do them on my Assassin and Necromancer again. Q.Q

Also, OP, /notsigned.

Phantom Flux · Dec 21, 2008, 05:29 AM // 05:29

The big number of votes for yes should says it all. BRING BETTER UNIQUE REWARDS FOR FLAMESEEKER PROPHECIES!!!!

Forgotton200 · Dec 21, 2008, 05:44 AM // 05:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phantom Flux

I have legendary guardian, obviously a level 20, enough skill points and farmed gold to keep me financially stable.

I would like to try and get my pve to benefit and keep improving through Guild Wars and not feel bored getting something for nothing.

I am motivated by the Shiro Return and Nightfall books because not only you get xp and gold, but Kurz, Lux, Sunspear and Lightbringer points to work towards a title.

However, in prophecies you only get points and gold. There should be a unique benefit for turning the book in other than more pointless points and gold. Plus the books already clog up too much storage. Anet needs to give better reason why we should even bother with the flameseeker prophecies books, especially for Legendary Guardians.

Actually, /unsigned.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skyy High

Most. Biased. Poll. Ever.

The "unique benefit" of the Prophecies books is that they give more xp and gold than the other campaign books. That's it. Unless you'd like to propose a new rep title for us to all /notsign, I don't see the point of this thread, since there's not a whole lot else that the book could logically give you.

This.

Shayne Hawke · Dec 21, 2008, 05:45 AM // 05:45

Suggest something unique the book would offer. Name one thing specific that Prophecies offers that you could make a reward for. If you can't at least do that, there's no discussion to be had here on whether we need it or not.

Phantom Flux · Dec 21, 2008, 05:50 AM // 05:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke

Suggest something unique the book would offer. Name one thing specific that Prophecies offers that you could make a reward for. If you can't at least do that, there's no discussion to be had here on whether we need it or not.

I'm a paying consumer of Guild Wars. I don't work for Guild Wars. It's Anet's duty to satisfy their customers with the best service. .....

Not my job to come up with that, it's theirs. And paying money to Anet for any of their services means its them who has to brown nose to consumers so they can be happy, not the other way around, period.

Konig Des Todes · Dec 21, 2008, 07:20 AM // 07:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phantom Flux

I'm a paid consumer of Guild Wars. I don't work for Guild Wars. It's Anet's duty to satisfy their customers with the best service. .....

Fixed for you. Anet doesn't have to do anything else for any of us. If this was a single player game with a multiplayer option fir PvP, would you ask for changes? No, you'd expect nothing changed.

It is the exact same case. We paid, don't pay again unless we buy something new. So Anet has done their job and we deserve nothing else.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phantom Flux

Not my job to come up with that, it's theirs. And paying money to Anet for any of their services means its them who has to brown nose to consumers so they can be happy, not the other way around, period.

It is your job as someone who wants something to offer ideas. If you cannot do that, then you do not deserve the change. Anet makes us happy by changing it to what we want.

Let's say they, for some odd reason, do in fact change it. What if they just increase the gold and experience points? That's changing it. Will you be happy? No? Then suggest what would make you happy.

Also, just be glad you got the books. Anet didn't need to add them, we are not paying a monthly fee. Anet can do absolutely nothing else to GW1 and they would be in the right.

Edit: BTW, polls are biased due to some people - like myself - not wanting to vote for "No" because of the added dialogue.

Phantom Flux · Dec 21, 2008, 08:34 AM // 08:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin

Fixed for you. Anet doesn't have to do anything else for any of us. If this was a single player game with a multiplayer option fir PvP, would you ask for changes? No, you'd expect nothing changed.

It is the exact same case. We paid, don't pay again unless we buy something new. So Anet has done their job and we deserve nothing else.

It is your job as someone who wants something to offer ideas. If you cannot do that, then you do not deserve the change. Anet makes us happy by changing it to what we want.

Let's say they, for some odd reason, do in fact change it. What if they just increase the gold and experience points? That's changing it. Will you be happy? No? Then suggest what would make you happy.

Also, just be glad you got the books. Anet didn't need to add them, we are not paying a monthly fee. Anet can do absolutely nothing else to GW1 and they would be in the right.

Edit: BTW, polls are biased due to some people - like myself - not wanting to vote for "No" because of the added dialogue.

Who cares if customers are just paying for the product its why we bought Guild Wars. And you say "we" you are only thinking about yourself as well all think for ourselves as well.

If Anet decides to keep customers unhappy, of course we'd more than likey stop playing guild wars and that would just be BAD, BAD business for them. Come on, you want to actually convince players to stop playing just so ANET can lose a lot of money?

LOL, Anet the real players give their time for Guild Wars, you should atleast give time to change and add what needs to be added.

Besides the poll above, regardless of how much you hate on the options, agrees with me.

Konig Des Todes · Dec 21, 2008, 08:49 AM // 08:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phantom Flux

Who cares if customers are just paying for the product its why we bought Guild Wars. And you say "we" you are only thinking about yourself as well all think for ourselves as well.

If Anet decides to keep customers unhappy, of course we'd more than likey stop playing guild wars and that would just be BAD, BAD business for them. Come on, you want to actually convince players to stop playing just so ANET can lose a lot of money?

LOL, Anet the real players give their time for Guild Wars, you should atleast give time to change and add what needs to be added.

You obviously fail to see my point.

Aside from the skill balancing, Anet doesn't have to keep adding things. Not adding things would not make the game bad. Let's take any single player game that is not online required. Any one, you pick, your favorite single player game. Doesn't matter which mind you.

Has anything changed to the game since it came out? Nope.

Is it still fun? Depends on if you like going through games multiple times - but it would be the same for Guild Wars wouldn't it, going through the game multiple times is rather boring.

Is the game "BAD"? Don't think so, if the game was good when it came out, it is no worse than then.

And if something bad comes as a part of the game series, people would still buy the sequels as long as the previous game(s) were good. Look at Devil May Cry for instance.

First game, good.
Second game, not so good (but not terrible).
Third game, great.
Fourth game, personally don't know haven't played it, but I heard it was decent to good.

The second game many people disliked, but people still bought the third game. Nothing changed in the games themselves - only thing that did was DMC3 with the special edition game.

You only think that GW would be "BAD" if there were no changes because you currently get changes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phantom Flux

of course we'd more than likey stop playing guild wars and that would just be BAD, BAD business for them.

To reiterate, it would not be bad business, because people will play, people will stop, people will buy the expansions and play again. Anet's business stays exactly the same as right now. Nothing changes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phantom Flux

Anet the real players give their time for Guild Wars, you should atleast give time to change and add what needs to be added.

Decided to bring this part out alone because, honestly, there is no "need" for any game in the world. Especially for those that are not subscriptions.

Again, the book is the bonus and benefit, you do not need more.

Continue with the poor points that anyone with a decent understanding of games can shut down.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phantom Flux

Besides the poll above, regardless of how much you hate on the options, agrees with me.

Again, no it doesn't, because it is biased and not everyone voted. I think there were more /notsigns in posts than votes.