Curse

Muspellsheimr · Apr 06, 2007, 06:00 PM // 18:00

/Signed

Only read through the first page, so if I repeat something, oh well.

The idea to set it up similar to ebay I think would be the best bet, but as mentioned, it could cause problems with quick purchases.

Therefore, a simple merge of the two ideas would work - have as stated several pre-determined time frames that can be selected for the auction to end - one of which will be as soon as the reserve price is met.

Example: Auction ends
Reserve is met -or- Buy it Now
30 minutes
1 hour
6 hours
12 hours
1 day

The player placing the item up for auction selects one of the above at the time of placement, and the auction ends as soon as the criteria has been met. A buy it now option may be the better choice for instant sales - instead of setting a reserve, just set a fixed cost - first come, first serve.

Lydz · Apr 06, 2007, 08:08 PM // 20:08

I was thinking and came up with something that could work...

I read somewhere, I think it was Xfire, that ANet planned on linking the official Guild Wiki to the game, so that it can be accessed from within it. If this is true, I don't see why they can't do this with an auction system...They could link an auction on their website to the game instead of creating NPCs and everything. This could be a longer way of getting the same thing (I don't know), but all I know is that something NEEDS to be done!

bilateralrope · Apr 06, 2007, 10:56 PM // 22:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muspellsheimr

/Signed

Only read through the first page, so if I repeat something, oh well.

The idea to set it up similar to ebay I think would be the best bet, but as mentioned, it could cause problems with quick purchases.

Therefore, a simple merge of the two ideas would work - have as stated several pre-determined time frames that can be selected for the auction to end - one of which will be as soon as the reserve price is met.

Example: Auction ends
Reserve is met -or- Buy it Now
30 minutes
1 hour
6 hours
12 hours
1 day

The player placing the item up for auction selects one of the above at the time of placement, and the auction ends as soon as the criteria has been met. A buy it now option may be the better choice for instant sales - instead of setting a reserve, just set a fixed cost - first come, first serve.

Why have a hidden reserve price ?
Personally on guru auctions I stay away from the auctions with a reserve that hasn't been met because the seller has no obligation if I'm under the reserve price to go through even if I'm the winning bid. But since the in-game auction will probably hold onto the gold you bid with so as to prevent you spending it on something else, this means that your gold could be held because your the highest bid, but when the auction ends you won't get the item because you didn't meet the minimum reserve. If you propose a way around this, assume the seller stops playing guild wars right after starting the auction (a worst case scenario, but one you must consider) and then think about the buyer would feel. So stick with a minimum price that everyone can see, and use that to restrict the lowest acceptable sale price.

I've got no objections to having a "buy now" price that automatically ends the auction if reached, and this price could be hidden or visible to people bidding on the auction. But I won't be using it, so I'll be wanting an option to not have one (other than the obvious option of setting a stupidly high one).

As for having multiple lengths to chose from for the auction, unless I'm lucky enough to get an item while its price is dropping at high speed (like any newly introduced green/skin) I think I'll get a better price with a longer auction. So have one of the options be at least a week long to satisfy me and I'll have no other complaints.

*Why I want the auctions anonymous:
- There is no need for the auction to display the names of the seller or buyer as the auction system itself will enforce the auctions.
- If either party changes their mind about the sale, they can't bother the other person about trying to get it reversed.
- If your selling an item and some idiot decides to bother you in an attempt to get it outside of the auction, they don't know who to send the annoying whispers to.

One thing I just noticed is that the guru auction system has something called Dutch auctions. These sound like they could be useful if someone is selling multiple stackable items (like DOA gemstones).

Jay0 · Apr 07, 2007, 06:38 PM // 18:38

/signed

even if its flawed im not too fussy we just need one badly, the only thing lacking in such a great game

Naxutin · Apr 07, 2007, 08:16 PM // 20:16

/signed

This will really help byers and sellers to obtain more fun from game.
Sometimes it's so annoying to sell/buy something when everyone is just spamming.

And when you have something to sell, you get usually a lot of questions by whispers. And those are usually "crypted", so it will take little more time to realize what he/she is even trying to say.

It will greatly improve this awesome game, even more.

Ars Robbie · Apr 17, 2007, 08:24 PM // 20:24

/Signed ! ( 12 Char)

frickett · May 02, 2007, 05:31 PM // 17:31

/signed,

I think this would be great. How's about it A-Net?

Halbarad Wolfson · May 09, 2007, 05:15 PM // 17:15

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i don't care wether it's an auction house or some other trade solution. as long as it works.
with the current state of trading, this is not so much a feature request, but more like a request for a bugfix.

JeniM · May 09, 2007, 10:28 PM // 22:28

Guru is an awesome auction site for GW but it would be easier to just auction ingame than taking ss and typing details of weapon/rune/whatever

/signed

bania170899 · May 10, 2007, 10:31 AM // 10:31

/signed

What surprises me is that this topic started about 2 years ago, and still A-net made no real change in the trading methods in GW, even though many players agree with the need for an Auction House type sollution. I did not read every single reply, but did we get any reply from A-net regarding the trade problems in GW?
I wrote them a mail myself concerning the trade issues in GW, but they referred to sites like this one to post idea's, and they'll get their idea's for changes from sites like this one. Will we ever get rid of hours and hours of switching from in-game to to GW to be able to sell your warez? For 95% of all drops it makes more profit to just merch it because gold/hour increases if you farm/just play the game, instead of roaming the internet trying to sell your not rare just 1 point off perfect golds.

dts720666 · May 10, 2007, 03:53 PM // 15:53

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I spent an hour trying to sell 10 gold items yesterday. Finally, I got so sick of it, I spammed (*shame on me*) the following:

I HATE SELLING STUFF: 10 GOLDS, 500g each. Anything not sold in 5 minutes goes to the merch.

I sold them all rather quickly, but I know some people got some screaming deals. I don't mind giving people good prices, but I do hate sitting around in LA for hours on end trying to sell an item. When I get to play gw, I only get 1-2 hours. I don't want to spend that time trying to sell stuff. So I am forced to either merch the rare weps (for 200-300g) or try to get a teeny bit more profit by selling for 500g-1k. I get robbed, but this is the only way I can spend my 1-2 hours actually playing the game.

An auction house as described above would allow me to play the game AND get decent prices for my gold weps and items.

I don't really care how ANet does it, but for the benefit of all, and the enjoyment of playing GW, a better way to sell items is a MUST.

Heck, I wouldn't even mind it if there were players out there who wanted to sell my stuff for me, and take a commission! The only problem there is trusting them to not take my stuff and run. The Auction House system as described above seems best.

Unconventional Man · May 10, 2007, 06:10 PM // 18:10

/signed (In blood!)

Now this boy did his research!

Ravi · May 13, 2007, 07:09 PM // 19:09

/signed

so why if many players want it? why dont we get it?

PreWyurm · May 13, 2007, 07:54 PM // 19:54

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Obviously we need some form of ingame trade system and I like this suggested one.

fenix · May 17, 2007, 11:02 AM // 11:02

I may have come up with an easy and excellent way to have an Auction House/Trading center. PLEASE read and comment, it'd be much appreciated

A simple way to do it, could be a system similar to the Template display box. I have been thinking this over recently, and with tweaking, it could be nice. Basically, there is 1 district, where everyone goes to trade. You set up a 'template' of your item (same box as template code, but instead of skills, the picture of the item, and instead of attributes, the stats), and add it to the NPC. After this is done, people can browse through items the same way you can browse through Templates. You select the name that you want to open, and it brings up the Template window, but with your item/items listed. This way, people can freely look through item lists, and then PM you if they are interested. This would reduce spam to almost none (except for those people who will NEVER learn :P), and would be an easy way to have an 'Auction House' as such.

I can elaborate or explain if needed

FelixCarter · May 17, 2007, 11:09 AM // 11:09

I love how people still think that ANet is going to add something like this to Guild Wars... It's so cute.

[not-so-cute link]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

We have no plans to add an auction house to Guild Wars.

Now get your hopes up for GW2! It'll be cute when the same thing happens. Trust me.

Oh, and /Signed. Again.

frickett · May 17, 2007, 06:53 PM // 18:53

/signed again.

I wish we could get some indication of some sort of trade improvement. I get more drops with hard mode, my inventory fills up faster, but I don't have any better way to sell that stuff, than to stand around and yell.

/signed a bunch of times...

Tarun · May 17, 2007, 08:32 PM // 20:32

06-09-2005
June 9th, 2005 this was suggested. Hardly a month since the game came out. Now, nearly two years later, ANet flat out says no. Big mistake.

/signed to have them add this.

As if the near 500 posts isn't enough motivation. ANet has to deal with constant spamming bogging down their servers and scammers. Hey wait a second, an Auction House would help resolve a huge portion of that! Gee, now there is an idea.

bilateralrope · May 17, 2007, 09:20 PM // 21:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by FelixCarter

I love how people still think that ANet is going to add something like this to Guild Wars... It's so cute.

[not-so-cute link]

Now get your hopes up for GW2! It'll be cute when the same thing happens. Trust me.

Oh, and /Signed. Again.

"No Plans to do x" is not the same as "we will not do x". When you also consider this post after Billiard visited ANET's offices, one possibility is that ANET hasn't told Gaile that they are working on it (how many times has Gaile been wrong because ANET didn't tell her everything ?) and Gaile has assumed that they aren't working on it (the safer assumption to make).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billiard

The auction house question actually came up again later when one of the Spanish guys asked about it again. At that time James said "its on the way." So I said okay its on the way - cool, then James amended his statement to say not to indicate it was coming in the next month.

Based on Billiards position as the leader of the Guild Wars part of Xen of Onslaught, one of the guru moderators, and the fact that no-one has come out and directly corrected him I'd say hes telling the truth.

fenix · May 18, 2007, 12:22 AM // 00:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by bilateralrope

Based on Billiards position as the leader of the Guild Wars part of Xen of Onslaught, one of the guru moderators, and the fact that no-one has come out and directly corrected him I'd say hes telling the truth.

Saying that he's the leader of XoO isn't necessary, as it isn't impressive. There are lots of guild leaders that say things. I'd say Billiard is probably right because he actually went there, and heard Anet talk about the issues.