Curse

disarm76 · Jun 05, 2009, 02:34 AM // 02:34

As me some of you probably have completed storybooks sitting on inventory and you can not use them either because you reached r8 (NM books) on all your titles or have completed them (HM books).

What about if you could give them to another char (but only completed ones)?

Stc95 · Jun 05, 2009, 03:33 AM // 03:33

I think NM books should be able to be turned in, not for the title, but at least for EXP and money. You did do all the missions, why not be rewarded with something.

as for having them account wide.. idk.. it'd be easy to run through with your main and get everything, and then switch it over to your other character and bam.. R10 Ebon/Asura/Dwarf/Norn.

Puebert · Jun 05, 2009, 03:51 AM // 03:51

Why only completed ones?

I think all books should be account wide.

rick1027 · Jun 05, 2009, 04:38 AM // 04:38

i think they all should be account wide

Sharkinu · Jun 05, 2009, 06:51 AM // 06:51

Survivor from 0 exp to 1337k exp in less than 30 minutes? Better not.

/not signed

upier · Jun 05, 2009, 07:42 AM // 07:42

That's why the Nightfall system is so much better.
I completed by Sunspear track ages before finishing the game. So I just turned the book in for the Lightbringer title.

The GWEN titles are a basket of fail. You NEED to resort to grind to finish them and the grind is massive. So, while your suggestion is a step in the right direction - it just shifts grind from one guy to another.
Just rework the titles.

disarm76 · Jun 05, 2009, 08:15 AM // 08:15

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Originally Posted by Papalopopudoculous

Survivor from 0 exp to 1337k exp in less than 30 minutes? Better not.

/not signed

Make them not give xp if used on another char then.

Gigashadow · Jun 05, 2009, 08:23 AM // 08:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by upier

That's why the Nightfall system is so much better.
I completed by Sunspear track ages before finishing the game. So I just turned the book in for the Lightbringer title.

The GWEN titles are a basket of fail. You NEED to resort to grind to finish them and the grind is massive. So, while your suggestion is a step in the right direction - it just shifts grind from one guy to another.
Just rework the titles.

I think the GWEN titles are setup so that if you vanquish all of EoTN, and do the heroes handbook and dungeons in both NM and HM, you automatically max out all the titles (as you get to turn in the 20K, 30K, 40K, 60K rep books). If not it must be pretty close. Basically, if you're going for Master of the North (or whatever the final rank is) you should get accumulate those by the time you do the quests and dungeons.

Jarus · Jun 05, 2009, 08:37 AM // 08:37

/notsigned

Like someone else said, it just transfers grind (for exp or tites) from one character to another.

gremlin · Jun 05, 2009, 09:54 AM // 09:54

Please stop this kind of thinking right now.

Yes your character did the work and should be able to get something for it probably by selling them to some npc for cash reward.
Passing on an achievement from one character to another is just plain wrong and leads you down a slippery path to one inevitable result.
When you complete the game with one character all future characters begin with all the same achievements.

Money and storage are shared and that's enough of a compromise so far as I am concerned.
Starting a new character means starting again from scratch, any future compromises should be very carefully considered before they are added to the game.

Arduin · Jun 05, 2009, 10:09 AM // 10:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gigashadow

I think the GWEN titles are setup so that if you vanquish all of EoTN, and do the heroes handbook and dungeons in both NM and HM, you automatically max out all the titles (as you get to turn in the 20K, 30K, 40K, 60K rep books). If not it must be pretty close. Basically, if you're going for Master of the North (or whatever the final rank is) you should get accumulate those by the time you do the quests and dungeons.

No they are not. I maxed Legendary EotN before trying to max the Reputation Titles. I still needed to add a lot of reputation: done about 6 Varajar Fells runs for max Norn, countless Snowman runs for Dwarven and ended up completing an additional Hero's Handbook HM and a Dungeon Guide HM to get me close to max Vanguard and Asura. Still needed to farm some foes on HM for those though.

If anything, those tracks should be reworked so that you would be max after you've completed all quests form a given faction, completed EotN on HM and all Dungeons on HM.

I don't think it is a good idea to allow you to carry books over to another character. That character would become level x of any faction in an instant, without being helpful to that faction in EotN. You'll have to earn the respect of that given faction, and if that is by killing Raptors over and over, so be it. But it still should be done on that same character.

MithranArkanere · Jun 05, 2009, 02:29 PM // 14:29

I wouldn't do that. Because they give XP, making Survivor a title that can be acquired without actually playing. I'm all for allow survivor to be retried, but it shouldn't be a title you don't have to play to get.

But one thing I would agree with is instead is this:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10378874

Hailey Anne · Jun 05, 2009, 05:39 PM // 17:39

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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

I wouldn't do that. Because they give XP, making Survivor a title that can be acquired without actually playing. I'm all for allow survivor to be retried, but it shouldn't be a title you don't have to play to get.

But one thing I would agree with is instead is this:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10378874

Of course you would agree with it. its your suggestion.

Quote:

Originally Posted by upier

That's why the Nightfall system is so much better.
I completed by Sunspear track ages before finishing the game. So I just turned the book in for the Lightbringer title.

The GWEN titles are a basket of fail. You NEED to resort to grind to finish them and the grind is massive. So, while your suggestion is a step in the right direction - it just shifts grind from one guy to another.
Just rework the titles.

The grind really isnt alot if you do it right. You dont need to sit there and farm for hours.

None of the titles are that hard to get or take that long either with exception of a few.
Just go do them.
SS/LB very easy and doesnt take long to do. Just vanquish and youll have most of your title.
Kurz/Lux can be maxed in less than 80 hours of play and is account wide.
Any of the eotn reps can be maxed in just a few hours of play.
No need for anything like this.
/notsigned

Targren · Jun 05, 2009, 07:34 PM // 19:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gigashadow

I think the GWEN titles are setup so that if you vanquish all of EoTN, and do the heroes handbook and dungeons in both NM and HM, you automatically max out all the titles (as you get to turn in the 20K, 30K, 40K, 60K rep books). If not it must be pretty close. Basically, if you're going for Master of the North (or whatever the final rank is) you should get accumulate those by the time you do the quests and dungeons.

Not even close, actually... I did just that for the norn, and only hit rank 8 (I beleive).

Decided not to do it on the others after that.

Ebony Shadowheart · Jun 05, 2009, 08:39 PM // 20:39

/not signed

This could potentially be abused in the sense of survivor being gotten w/o actually having to play the character. As someone else said, you could potentially remove the experience given from a book which would negate this issue, but I don't see why you need to have books account wide. It would make getting titles easier across multiple characters, yes, but that'd be no different than just making all the titles account based anyway. I say its fine as it is.

HawkofStorms · Jun 05, 2009, 08:45 PM // 20:45

/notsigned
Not really much else to add. If you don't have the time to even complete the storyline on a character, there is no reason to get "fancy" titles on them since you obviously don't play enough on them.

crazybanshee · Jun 06, 2009, 12:26 AM // 00:26

Eh, I disagree. With this it would be possible to create a low level character, turn in a couple books that you earned on another char, then immediately have a maxed rep title without ever reaching that area. Things like that would always be abused.