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serpas · Jul 19, 2006, 10:57 PM // 22:57

I didn't had time to read all the reply on this thread, but the idea of a personal shop would work good.
Anyway there on world of warcraft they have a simple and easy way to buy and sell things.
By pressing a button the general/world marketplace (not personal then) will pop up.
All the sellers can put items there, setting up the prices, then who want to buy something can search things by category/types, check the prices, wearing it, then buy it easily.
All of this can work when the seller is offline!

The guy who was selling stuff when back online will receive the money + a message like "u sold an item to XXXX"

Things like that will make the game less frustrating

Thanks and sorry for my english guys

The Hand Of Death · Jul 20, 2006, 02:29 AM // 02:29

I heard this suggestion awhile back. It would be cool to do this, but if it was implemented I would suggest some of the following:

-Have trade outposts, so places like LA, Droks, KC, Cavalon, and House ZH would not get cluttered.

-Have some organization of shops, materials sold in this quarter, gold weapons sold in this quarter, green weapons and so on.

-Have it so the seller can set a specific price, and people can auction on that item, then they give it to the highest bidder, either having it sold without them being there or having to meet up with the person.

Aramaki · Jul 20, 2006, 04:07 AM // 04:07

Yes we all need a private shop but Anet reluctance to implement this feature is very strange. Can't they see the trade spams flooding over to local chat channel is very very annoying, in a way ruining the community?

unholy guardian · Jul 20, 2006, 04:51 AM // 04:51

i'm all for something to trade better, i just don't bother selling imperfect stuff, not worth waiting 5 hours...

rong626 · Jul 20, 2006, 07:21 AM // 07:21

Like Silkroad online u mean.But in that game ppl set up shops EVEYWHERE in the city and its VERY messy.You will have to click on their stall to open their shop console.

MarcinJ13 · Aug 19, 2006, 11:47 AM // 11:47

Two Ideas:

1) Instaed of private shops, just ability to mark items "For Sale" and wanted price. Then other players could display a window with item tree, find the item they want and find the person who sells (then whisp, haggle over price and buy).

2) To block "WTS", "Want To Sell", "W T S" and similiar options from local chanell (that would stop spamming at least partially on Local channel)

Geer · Sep 01, 2006, 09:41 AM // 09:41

I like the idea of private shops, but to avoid having a lot of shops in the towns/outposts, maybe create a "marketplace" in every town/outpost which allows a number of people to open their store there for some money.
This way the number of private stores is controlled and limited.
It will not "over-store" the whole area, just a part of the town/outpost is for stores.

And i like MarcinJ13's second idea: Block the WTS, W T S, W.T.S, etc, etc from local channel. If people can be forced to put trade chat on trade channel, then other players can easily turn it off if they are not interested. Helps to avoid spam.

But definitely /signed for the private stores, if it can be limited in some way to avoid server overload.

Ian Savage · Sep 01, 2006, 03:47 PM // 15:47

My opinion on the matter of trade is that there will never be a perfect system. However, the best trade system I've run into so far is the one running in FFXI
First of all, you have Auction House. Not as much Auction as you'd find in WoW, but the basic idea is that there is a large cache of items up there, so both new and older players can go to buy/sell items. there is, however, ALSO a private shop system. by selecting the 'check' command while targeting a player shows you their title, alliegience, equipment, job and level, and gives you a button that will open that players personal shop. So far, on my server, i have yet to hit major trade spams in most cities, the ones that pop up are the people asking for ports, but thats a different story alltogether.

In conclusion,
/signed for personal shop-AH-and Personal Profile combo

Sir_Ace_Manslayer · Sep 02, 2006, 05:23 AM // 05:23

good idea but i think it would be better to have an ingame auctioner where it would group in specific class such as axes, swords, sheilds and break down into even smaller kinda jus liek the guru auctions witch i think is flawless but it would not increase in price u simply set the price to sell and it sell for exatly that

legion_rat · Sep 02, 2006, 08:18 AM // 08:18

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Originally Posted by Sir_Ace_Manslayer

good idea but i think it would be better to have an ingame auctioner where it would group in specific class such as axes, swords, sheilds and break down into even smaller kinda jus liek the guru auctions witch i think is flawless but it would not increase in price u simply set the price to sell and it sell for exatly that

/signed

this would save a lot of time. you could find the greens you want or golds and grapes.......does anyone buy blues?

Maybe by the Mod?

~the "I dont care just stop the WTB/WTS spam" Rat~

twistdshade · Oct 27, 2006, 09:42 PM // 21:42

nah this wont work out at all, too much programing too much stress on the servers ect. instead, gw should just have some official forums, and link the game with the forum, like... you open a menu in gw, and in a seprate web page the forums open up, you can put items up for sale here, and you get a small in game notification if you get a reply to your thread/sale or whatever this would also be used to send people messages when they are offline

not sure if its programable, but maby the internet window that pops up, pops in front of the gw window, so you dont have to minimize evry time you want to post? maby an anet programmed browser? they could use this browser in other games too

Not A Fifty Five · Oct 28, 2006, 12:19 AM // 00:19

Heh I think gwguru is good enough for selling :P Its not like its a lot of work, you forum your "crap" items, and either high end the bigger ones or auction. All you do is bump/relist. Screenshoting and cropping and all that is annoying, but when an item's wortk 40k its worth the little effort

honnaja · Nov 21, 2006, 10:03 AM // 10:03

I don't have the time or inclination to stand around spamming and forum auctions don't really appeal to me.
I often log in and go AFK for ages.. it would be so nice to have my character 'working' whilst I'm AFK!

I really find it SO hard to believe that they haven't done something about this yet. Heck I wouldn't mind paying to set up my own little shop/stall/chest/whatever! Either Game or RL currency!

I have very few gripes about the game itself, but this is one of them, and it bothers me most when I really need to get rid of stuff from my inventory and have to stand around trying to sell it to idiots who ask you ridiculous questions and completely misunderstand what you're trying to trade (and hopefully you can see from the way that I write that it's not down to me advertising it all wrong! - either that, or you just know what's it's like from your own experience.).

I have stuff to sell, I could do with more cash, but I just can't be bothered with the hassle of trying to sell it, so it sits in my inventory in the hope that one day I'll be able to sell it in game like you can in so many other online games!

/rant

*coughs and shuffles off*

Xandros · Dec 13, 2006, 09:18 PM // 21:18

/Signed ^_^

brokenbokken · Dec 13, 2006, 09:21 PM // 21:21

I'm for this. I'm tired of trying to sell stuff when I could be doing more interesting things. Who wants to stand around for an hour trying to sell stuff?

I like the idea of an entire market city or trading post because the game logic is already there for expanding into new districts when one is full.

I just like the idea of being able to browse for what I want, as well as sell off a bunch of items at once.

As it is now, selling stuff in game is pure torture.

johngid · Dec 14, 2006, 11:26 AM // 11:26

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Originally Posted by Jas

Would they really go there? I doubt that. I think Ascalon, LA and Droks would still be filled with "WTS"-shouts. And those places would only be used by the people that really play the game and hate spamming. Spammers (with them I mean semi-professional WTS-persons) will anyway stay in the cities and use the Local-channel the same way they have before.

Agreed, don't think this would work. Unfortunately you can not count on the "honesty" of people to not keep shouting WTB/WTS on local channels. A proof of this is that there actually IS a "$trade" channel, and people still use the local channels to buy and sell stuff.

After any other mechanism of trading is implemented, there should be a way of reporting and punishing users that STILL use local channels (using the really easy "screen shot" button on keyboard (thanks ArenaNet for making it that easy =)) to buy or sell stuff, I think this would be the only way of getting rid of this issue.

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Originally Posted by Jas

This would create the monopoly like situation as the rich Guilds would have a guy there to buy all the cheap items off and reselling them back to the Auction-merchant at the price set to that particular item by that one rich Guild.

Unfortunately I don't have any solution for that myself. All I can do is point out that that just won't work

This is how REAL LIFE works. If Guilds have enough money to buy all the items, let them, I bet all the sellers would be really happy about that. And if the "Rich Guild" is selling the item for too much money, then Don't buy it. That will make the Guild reduce the price or something like that. This should work since there is a FINITE and small number of items someone can have (And there should be a small number of items a person can auction).

Private shops is the way that "Knight online" works (www.knightonlineworld.com), and it is not as good as it sounds. It is a free game, so I invite you to check it out. Basically too crowded with shops, and they sometimes are over important NPC's which makes it harder to click on them.

Anyway, my two cents.

/not signed (I still preffer an auction house)

Dec 21, 2006, 08:21 PM // 20:21

Reading over all the pro and cons of shops and shop areas stores etc, I would be quite happy if the trading could be limited to certain towns, or have a trade area in an outpost town etc. cause even the interface picking up on WTS WTB etc. and moving it into the trade channel, there is still too many people finding ways to circumvent it.
I personally don't have the patience trying to sell things and really don't see any need to buy anything that isn't availlable from the merchant/armor/weapons guy, so I don't listen to the trade channel and yet have to put up with all the trading in the local channel ;(.
On a similiar note maybe there could be staging area in towns where the runners could congregate, so we wouldn't have to listen to this crap either.

abs

Knightsaber Sith · Dec 21, 2006, 09:02 PM // 21:02

I've noticed people using the trade option in the new party search system has decreased the amount of spam in cities; but not quite eliminated it. This is probably the only "trade improvement" we'll see for a while.

flankthetank · Dec 21, 2006, 09:09 PM // 21:09

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Originally Posted by lostage

I know in Dark Age of Camelot they had housing zones where you could go and buy a house, customize it, yadda yadda yadda, and buy a, essentially, private shop.

The way it worked, you can drop an item on it, much like storage, set a price for it, and go about your day. Other players could then use on NPC to search for the specific item they're looking for, and a list would pop up showing where the item was, what price, and where the house was located. Players then trotted over to that house, found the merchant and bought the item, assuming nobody got there first.

Seems like a hassle? Nah....pretty easy and painless, actually. They implemented a horse system and a temporary running speed buff to help you get on your merry little way. And players went nuts buying/decorating their houses. Could have guild houses/villas/mansions also where you could have different merchants/traders. Great stuff!

I loved the DAOC housing !! Was so easy to find stuff.

puteh · Dec 22, 2006, 01:29 AM // 01:29

ive played an online game like this and the private shops helps in other online games.this is a good suggestion.

/Signed