Curse

refer · Jun 25, 2009, 03:56 PM // 15:56

This probably isn't the BEST idea but I think it's a little bit of a fix. I mostly play Factions PvP (since there isn't a 8v8 RA and HA/TA seem too coordinated/elistist for me) but there is a lot of leavers and leeches on the Luxon side due to how fast they can enter the "mission". What I propose is that if somebody leaves a match, players waiting in the outpost to join will receive a box that says "A game is already in progress, do you want to join?" and will start immediately. Some people just enter to leave or leave if they just don't like the configuration of the team which can really hurt. Maybe the same could be applied to people have been reported as leecher/bots and those who resign since they aren't contributing either and should be replaced. Nobody ever report but maybe this will motivate some too... many times the team knows we have a leecher but are too apathetic/lazy to do anything about it. Maybe they would report when they know they can get somebody better. (And yes, I know it would be abused, but there's potential for abuse for everything! And since I don't even see legitimate leechers/bots reported, I doubt innocents would be targeted unless they were trolling/griefing, but then that doesn't make them innocent).

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Originally Posted by JASON626

i don't think that i would join a game in progress being that if people leave your generally losing the match more times than not. Resigning and getting people to leave by reporting might make it worse. Might have a team end up not getting replacements.

You wouldn't know how far the game was in progress. It could have just started with the whole team reporting [known leecher] from the get go to get a replacement in there ASAP.

And about everybody resigning on enter for new people, they could introduce maybe a waiting period for replacement, like 10% of the round has to be over or such. And you would still be liable for hex when quitting. And about everybody doing it 24/7, do you really think people would hop game after game after game for a good team when you could be playing in the first place? You don't need a perfect party to win or at least play successfully and not everybody is born with infinite patience, especially when you know the arena is designed in a random way. No Monk, no Monk, no Monk, HEX... waits, No Monk, HEX.

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Originally Posted by Shursh

yea the last half of matches would get really messed up, since the losing side would all /resign, and be filled with newcomers who would see the score and /resign, ad infinitum.

If the whole team resigned then the other side would win anyways since loading times + that is a sign they'd lose anyways. But good point, maybe they could limit the amount of times that you can enter if you are seen quitting too much. Or maybe they could limit the # of people to 4 replacements or such. (that's just a number I pulled out of nowhere).

Lets assume that all goes wrong... whats' the worst that could happen? The game would go back to being like it is now, with less players players. At least you might have the opportunity to get a replacement when it's needed. If anythign else worse could happen I'd like to know though since I guess I can't think of much.

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Originally Posted by Tender Wolf

AB's are so predictable for me anymore -the other team always wins because my team doesn't know how to cap despite people saying CAP CAP CAP. Then people rage quit because we lose, or leech, or go afk. So while it would be nice to bring in replacements to those annoying people, I don't see it happening since you have to form a team of 4 before entering. I'm just not sure how they'd implement it. I'd rather they spend their time and money on Guild Wars 2 and fixing the XTH. But if they have time and money to do all three, I'll /sign.

Saying CAP doesn't accomplish anything because it's just a word and doesn't fix the root of the problem. But good idea about what if people didn't want a person to join their team. Maybe each team could decide if they took replacements or not on the party list, and while clicking enter mission for others would be a checkbox for "look for already in progress games". That would be weird, you'd have a bunch of people maybe trying to get into random games if they can't find a group. I think people would want replacements though. By not taking them, parties are voluntarily handicapping their side (who would want that?). A bad player is even always better than a leecher or a bot.

beatdownbob · Jun 25, 2009, 04:11 PM // 16:11

Couldn't hurt. Back in the day one could press "Start" in TA with spare slots, and somebody would randomly fill it.
Then they stopped that. Then wiki appeared. Then they allowed non full teams. But it was too late. TA had been wiki'd.

I'm quite bored of that Kurzick necro who stands above the green shrine throughout the whole match too. Maybe one day I'll build against him if JQ ever stops being such a wiki whinefest. Also... non reporters. You should be able to report people for not reporting.

JASON626 · Jun 25, 2009, 04:20 PM // 16:20

i don't think that i would join a game in progress being that if people leave your generally losing the match more times than not. Resigning and getting people to leave by reporting might make it worse. Might have a team end up not getting replacements.

Shursh · Jun 25, 2009, 04:24 PM // 16:24

yea the last half of matches would get really messed up, since the losing side would all /resign, and be filled with newcomers who would see the score and /resign, ad infinitum.

Tender Wolf · Jun 25, 2009, 04:56 PM // 16:56

AB's are so predictable for me anymore -the other team always wins because my team doesn't know how to cap despite people saying CAP CAP CAP. Then people rage quit because we lose, or leech, or go afk. So while it would be nice to bring in replacements to those annoying people, I don't see it happening since you have to form a team of 4 before entering. I'm just not sure how they'd implement it. I'd rather they spend their time and money on Guild Wars 2 and fixing the XTH. But if they have time and money to do all three, I'll /sign.

Bob Slydell · Jun 25, 2009, 08:10 PM // 20:10

I kinda like the idea of being able to join into a current match.

gameshoes3003 · Jun 26, 2009, 01:07 AM // 01:07

Been suggested before, even by me.
/signed again.

phoenixtech · Jun 26, 2009, 03:13 AM // 03:13

Idea seems okay in general, but seeing how ANET kinda has problems with just reconnecting to a game you are d/c from, not sure how they can implement this effectively.

Copenhagen Master · Jun 26, 2009, 03:18 AM // 03:18

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Originally Posted by ele pl

WoW anyone?

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LOl with GWs lag lately SURE!!!! hahahaha

refer · Jun 26, 2009, 06:41 AM // 06:41

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Originally Posted by phoenixtech

Idea seems okay in general, but seeing how ANET kinda has problems with just reconnecting to a game you are d/c from, not sure how they can implement this effectively.

Lets not think about reality. This isn't the "realistic, actual suggestions you think WILL be implemented" board lol. Not many things will be implemented by now, but I like giving ideas. Anything could be possible if they had more time and money and GW2 wasn't' being planned.

pumpkin pie · Jun 26, 2009, 06:49 AM // 06:49

good idea, how about another option. this is good for people who wants to leave the game and to keep the game going,

If player think the group is bad and they are so elitist that they don't want to be associated with this group and desire to leave, they are given a choice, dialog box pops up and tells them if there are replacements to take their place in the already started game, if they leave the group with a replacement, they get to enter the battle again, in another instance, if there isn't any replacement, they can still leave the group but then they will not be able to return to the game for another half an hour. Sound fair?

Aljasha · Jun 26, 2009, 12:51 PM // 12:51

i like your idea, pumpkin pie, but i'd reduce the waiting time a bit. 10 minutes would be sufficient.