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beagle warrior · Jul 27, 2009, 10:09 PM // 22:09

i was just thinking that cleave is meant to be a high damage spamable skill, the problem is that its spamibility doesn't make up for its like of spiking ability in pvp. so my idea is to change cleave to something like this...

Cleave
4a
Elite Axe Attack. If this attack hits, you strike for +10...26...30 damage and gain 1 adrenaline.

by adding the gain adrenaline clause it allows for more spamming of cleave along with spamming of the other skills used in its "mini spike" (ex: dismember).

what do you guys think?

king_trouble · Jul 27, 2009, 10:57 PM // 22:57

Even gaining one adrenaline could provide some balance issues combined with low adrenaline cost.

Lishy · Jul 27, 2009, 11:08 PM // 23:08

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Originally Posted by king_trouble

Even gaining one adrenaline could provide some balance issues combined with low adrenaline cost.

Warrior's Endurance + Power Attack

Wut's so bad?
Cleave needs a buff.
Unless it reveals more of Livia's Cleavage, it'll still be the shittiest Cleave ever.

beagle warrior · Jul 28, 2009, 12:13 AM // 00:13

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Originally Posted by king_trouble

Even gaining one adrenaline could provide some balance issues combined with low adrenaline cost.

i dont see why since you could just bring FGJ! for adrenaline gain right now. this would just combine the two skills the same way eviscerate does with exectioners strike and dismember

Lux Aeterna · Jul 28, 2009, 12:35 AM // 00:35

Cleave sounds boring so you will never make me care.

Run primal rage scythe, is WAY TO GO.

Fabez · Jul 28, 2009, 12:40 AM // 00:40

I'm not sure if we need a "Dragon Slash"-esque skill for Axes, as for my suggestion...

The skill closest to Cleave in functionality is Executioner's Strike:

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Cleave (4a)- If this attack hits, you strike for +10...26 damage.

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Executioner's Strike (8a)- If this attack hits, you strike for +10...34 damage.

Increase the damage to +10...34 (the same as Executioner's Strike) and give it a 1 second activation time: there's the low-cost spammable skill you're looking for.

beagle warrior · Jul 28, 2009, 01:02 AM // 01:02

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Originally Posted by Fabez

Increase the damage to +10...34 (the same as Executioner's Strike) and give it a 1 second activation time: there's the low-cost spammable skill you're looking for.

it already is a low-cost spammable skill, what i was trying to do was increase the spammability even more

IronSheik · Jul 28, 2009, 01:22 AM // 01:22

I like Fabez's suggestion, it isn't eviscerate, but it had great spike capability.

moriz · Jul 28, 2009, 02:33 AM // 02:33

the thing is, why use cleave, when you can use whirling axe? sure, whirling axe deals less damage, but it does something useful on top of it.

Evasion Twenty · Jul 28, 2009, 03:49 AM // 03:49

Because enemies dont usually mob in PvP, besides AB.

Axe is better in JQ if you must ^_^

IronSheik · Jul 28, 2009, 04:16 AM // 04:16

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Originally Posted by Evasion Twenty

Because enemies dont usually mob in PvP, besides AB.

Axe is better in JQ if you must ^_^

Lol what does this have to do with anything, if you mean whirling axe....it's single target.

Evasion Twenty · Jul 28, 2009, 04:56 AM // 04:56

Right, thought it was triple chop. Similar icons lol

beagle warrior · Jul 28, 2009, 01:14 PM // 13:14

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Originally Posted by moriz

the thing is, why use cleave, when you can use whirling axe? sure, whirling axe deals less damage, but it does something useful on top of it.

thats exactly the point, right now cleave has no added benefit but i think that with my suggestion cleave will gain a spot in pressure builds

Mad Lord of Milk · Jul 28, 2009, 04:50 PM // 16:50

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Originally Posted by beagle warrior

thats exactly the point, right now cleave has no added benefit but i think that with my suggestion cleave will gain a spot in pressure builds

CLEAVE IS FOR PVE. PvP already has enough Axe Pressure builds.