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Unreal Havoc · Jul 31, 2009, 11:12 AM // 11:12

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Originally Posted by Alexander Burn Victim

My post still stands, fix the giant black boxes on my mesmer's FoW armor before you fix eotn blindfolds/glasses etc. :P If you don't like it, either change your appearance, live with it or don't buy it.

So people should pay to change their appearance for something that is out of their own control in the first place? What's next? Pay to change your characters profession because your FoW armour has technical issues too? You shouldn't have to pay to fix something that should have been done properly in the first place.

Sadly there are those that are unlucky enough to have to live with it because they already bought it. I too have had this issue when I first got some of the EotN headpieces. I've learnt to just not bother entirely with them nowadays which is a shame really.

And yes there are issues with profession based armour that does need addressing but that's a different subject and not as easily addressable as the issue the OP is addressing. The skins for the headpieces are the same for each profession compared to the individual skins of armour sets.

People will have to just deal with it, but don't shoot down peoples suggestions as bad ones just because you feel bitter that your FoW armour is fugly due to technical issues. They're all issues that need addressing and everyone damn well knows it.

Anet will never fix the clipping issues with armour, this however is one way to at least alleviate the issue on some of the EotN headpices, and I think it's not a bad idea, though it needs more thought into how it would work properly.

Sierraa · Jul 31, 2009, 11:37 AM // 11:37

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Originally Posted by Unreal Havoc

So people should pay to change their appearance for something that is out of their own control in the first place? What's next? Pay to change your characters profession because your FoW armour has technical issues too? You shouldn't have to pay to fix something that should have been done properly in the first place.

Sadly there are those that are unlucky enough to have to live with it because they already bought it. I too have had this issue when I first got some of the EotN headpieces. I've learnt to just not bother entirely with them nowadays which is a shame really.

And yes there are issues with profession based armour that does need addressing but that's a different subject and not as easily addressable as the issue the OP is addressing. The skins for the headpieces are the same for each profession compared to the individual skins of armour sets.

People will have to just deal with it, but don't shoot down peoples suggestions as bad ones just because you feel bitter that your FoW armour is fugly due to technical issues. They're all issues that need addressing and everyone damn well knows it.

Anet will never fix the clipping issues with armour, this however is one way to at least alleviate the issue on some of the EotN headpices, and I think it's not a bad idea, though it needs more thought into how it would work properly.

Actually it is semi in your control, you don't have to buy it, and it's very possible to check if it clips. If you -really- want that item but you don't want it to clip, you have the option of living with it, changing your appearance or not buying it.My blindfold clips with all but one character, and yet I'll still continue to buy it. You're making the choice to not buy it, because it clips which is fine. No one is making you buy it.

The live team has already said that clipping issues are something they don't have the time or resources to correct, and even if they did it's something they probably still wouldn't fix. Also the gauntlets are different for mesmers. My point of other armor was, I'd rather they fix older clipping issues before they fix something that I don't find to be that problematic.

I do believe you are shooting down my OPINION on the matter. You're not obligated to respond to me, nor should you think that my opinion is the correct one, or even the course of action that would be taken on this subject. Out of all the responses you picked him to dissect. I happen to like my armor, and I don't mind the clipping issues that much which is why I'll continue to wear it.

Making it account wide doesn't seem like the answer to me. You have a lot of options in previewing it if you're really that concerned about how it clips. If they took the time to implement it to being account wide, they might as well just fix how it clips and keep the current system; buying them for every character.

Unreal Havoc · Jul 31, 2009, 12:47 PM // 12:47

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Originally Posted by Alexander Burn Victim

Actually it is semi in your control, you don't have to buy it, and it's very possible to check if it clips. If you -really- want that item but you don't want it to clip, you have the option of living with it, changing your appearance or not buying it.My blindfold clips with all but one character, and yet I'll still continue to buy it. You're making the choice to not buy it, because it clips which is fine. No one is making you buy it.

Stop spinning the "You don't have to buy it" yarn. These items should be usable by all without these issues in the first place. Paying real money out of your own pocket to fix the issue is also the most stupid thing I have ever heard. I can't believe anyone would even suggest that.

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The live team has already said that clipping issues are something they don't have the time or resources to correct, and even if they did it's something they probably still wouldn't fix. Also the gauntlets are different for mesmers. My point of other armor was, I'd rather they fix older clipping issues before they fix something that I don't find to be that problematic.

As would alot of people, but that's not the point of this thread.

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I do believe you are shooting down my OPINION on the matter. You're not obligated to respond to me, nor should you think that my opinion is the correct one, or even the course of action that would be taken on this subject. Out of all the responses you picked him to dissect. I happen to like my armor, and I don't mind the clipping issues that much which is why I'll continue to wear it.

Well I see alot of people shooting down peoples opinions, I guess you'll just have to deal with it, that's how the suggestion forums are. What's good for the goose is good for the gander as they say.

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Making it account wide doesn't seem like the answer to me. You have a lot of options in previewing it if you're really that concerned about how it clips. If they took the time to implement it to being account wide, they might as well just fix how it clips and keep the current system; buying them for every character.

Really? Where's the players option to preview it before buying it? There is none other than seeing how it looks on someone else, which involves finding someone with the same character look as yours who owns a blindfold on it, or dye preview which involves loaning a blindfold from a friend.

That is not alot of options, and if you think they are acceptable options then I guess you are pleased very easily.

If they fixed how it clips, I would be happy with that. However they won't ever fix it, or any other clipping issues, so I think the OPs suggestion isn't a bad idea.

Sierraa · Jul 31, 2009, 03:17 PM // 15:17

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Originally Posted by Unreal Havoc

Stop spinning the "You don't have to buy it" yarn. These items should be usable by all without these issues in the first place. Paying real money out of your own pocket to fix the issue is also the most stupid thing I have ever heard. I can't believe anyone would even suggest that.

As would alot of people, but that's not the point of this thread.

Well I see alot of people shooting down peoples opinions, I guess you'll just have to deal with it, that's how the suggestion forums are. What's good for the goose is good for the gander as they say.

Really? Where's the players option to preview it before buying it? There is none other than seeing how it looks on someone else, which involves finding someone with the same character look as yours who owns a blindfold on it, or dye preview which involves loaning a blindfold from a friend.

That is not alot of options, and if you think they are acceptable options then I guess you are pleased very easily.

If they fixed how it clips, I would be happy with that. However they won't ever fix it, or any other clipping issues, so I think the OPs suggestion isn't a bad idea.

The items are USABLE, and expecting them to implement non clipping armor or non bugged updates is expecting a miracle tbh. The game is not perfect, there will be some things that clip or look funny, and paying for a makeover is one of the options we're presented with to deal with it. If you so dearly want your blindfold to not clip and you're willing to pay for the make-over that's great. For those of us who don't have the money or don't want to, we deal with clipping or don't buy it.

I want to add that you are the one that brought up that I was shooting down other's opinions when I haven't. You dissected my post out of all of them and accused me. For those people who make suggestions like this, kudos you care a lot more about the game and a headpiece than I do. You're creative enough to want to see things fixed and changed, where as I'm ok with status quo. I -personally- think there are other options that would be better than making common headgear account wide.

As for player options, I mentioned that the makeover preview allows people to change hair/face/skin color. Find a friend or a guild mate with the common headgear of choice and ask for a certain hairstyle etc. I'm sure you're capable of finding someone. If for some reason you can't use gwg in the screenshot requests. If you really want something or if you really want to preview something I'm sure you can find a way to achieve it, because it's probably important to you.

You missed the point about OP's suggestion in my last post. If the live team would take the effort to implement a whole new preview system or an account wide common headgear change, I would much rather them spend the time fixing the clipping issues rather than completely changing something. I'm no programmer I do believe it'd be a lot easier to just fix minor clipping issues, than to implement a new system altogether. They'd have to rework the rune system too, iirc once you upgrade one of them with a rune (lets say a minor prot) even if you remove it, it stays + 1 prot inherent.

Pistachio · Jul 31, 2009, 04:50 PM // 16:50

I'm not sure about this for Roleplaying characters, but I could see this as an option for PvP. You could essentially "unlock" armor for your PvP characters by using a Roleplaying character just as you do skills, weapon mods, and heroes. I know I've read many times before about how PvP players wish they could have some of the armor that PvE characters do. This may be a good solution.

Zahr Dalsk · Jul 31, 2009, 05:18 PM // 17:18

/signed

I understand people like gold sinks (I don't, because I don't farm, so I like things as cheap as possible) but for those of us who actually play multiple characters, not use them as mules or "alts," everything that becomes account-wide (items, titles, etc) is a good thing.

crazybanshee · Aug 01, 2009, 03:54 PM // 15:54

I disagree somewhat. It's not actually a goldsink for the most part. The common headpieces (crown, mo zing, dread, blindfold etc) are in no way a gold sink. Sure, people pay gold to other people for the collectible item they need to get the mask, but that does not remove gold from the game, which is the definition of gold sink. I disagree with making them account wide however. No other armor is, and customized weapons are not, so why should they be?