Curse

curiousanger · Mar 11, 2008, 03:42 AM // 03:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by IslandHermet

/notsigned for a KOABD emote it is way way, way to easy to get 5 max titles and if you say other wise then......(you are bad at the game).........

/notsigned even for a people know me emote.

/signed for the emote to start after im very important.

it takes a day to 2 days at most to get 5 max titles, protector's of all 3 games, and guardian of cantha, elona (this should take you 10 hours at most AT most)

Yeah and it takes months and months to get r3!

...

/signed

Phoenix Tears · Mar 11, 2008, 01:09 PM // 13:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Earth

No more ways to boast e-peen, thanks. Not signed.

Phoenix, you have no clue what you're talking about. If you actually took the time to look around, you'd notice alot of high end PvP people play PvP with their PvE chars, and most of them actually play PvE too.

You are the one, that has no clue, about what I really have talked.
I didn't have spoken about PvP's which play also with their PvE Characters PvP ...

I've spoken about, that the general PvE Player, people who play ONLY PvE normally get forced to play PvP, when they want to get those emotes - so does it look. This is the point, which needs to get changed.

It must become regardless of which decision the player has made for which Gameplay the player prefers most and wants to play ONLY. Regardless of your choice should be all players be able to receive those Emotes.

Example:

I'm a PvE'er 100% pure, I prefer PvE over PvP and DON'T want to play PvP at all (with the exception of PvP Events in PvE, that are just for fun, stuff like Costume Brawl ...where is no idiotic elitism in it, like in GvG or HA)
I want to have now for example a way, to earn me thsoe emotes by playing PVE!!!! and not by getting forced to play HA over and over for them because HA is the stupid only way yet in GW, to earn Fame Points.

If Anet would link those Emotes also to the KoaBD-Title, then would have PvE'ers finally also their own way to get those emotes, without getting anyhow forced to play elitism PvP, if you don't want to play PvP at all.
-----
-----

People have much quicker earned with a good team R3 by PvP, than a player will need to max 5 Titles, anyone who says somethign else is an idiot, who wants to blockade this good idea only, cause of fear, their beloved emote would get then lesser "value". But thats ever again the same thing you see everywhere here, when soemthing good gets sugessted, that would make the game more fair or again more multi character friendly - then come all the selfish ones out of their creepy holes and spam their /notsigns ... and post their partly totally unlogic arguments, so like islandHermet did there now >.>

I want really see this No Life, who has after 1-2 days 5 or more maxed titles >.> It takes alone like 10 hours, if you are good, to get from Lvl 1 to 20.
If you start in prophecies you need also way much more time -.-
Then for the 3 protectors this are 58 Missions together, that you need to do all with all bonis/master in like 36 hours left, means for each Mission you have lesser than 1 hour, like an average of say ~45 Minutes. But some of those missions take longer than this, when you do them with Bonus.
Then it would be blasphemy to say, that person would make all 58 Missions perfectly on 1st try. That person surely loses at some missions too, or is sometimes maybe in Factions not quick enough and has to retry the mission for bonus/master... there are also certain missions, which are better, to play more than once for easier going, like Dunes of Despair.

Then u have only 3 of 5... redo then all those missions of 2 campaigns in HM for guardian in the left lime ? ya sure, dream further IslandHermet >.>

I pwnd U · Mar 11, 2008, 01:45 PM // 13:45

Emotes=Epeen. We really don't need more considering how many people already have atleast one level of KOABD. I'd rather not go into a town and have everyone running around flashing their stupid KOABD emote. Let PvP'rs have their own special emote. It's special for them and us PvE'rs don't need it. /not signed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix Tears

You are the one, that has no clue, about what I really have talked.
I didn't have spoken about PvP's which play also with their PvE Characters PvP ...

I've spoken about, that the general PvE Player, people who play ONLY PvE normally get forced to play PvP, when they want to get those emotes - so does it look. This is the point, which needs to get changed.

It must become regardless of which decision the player has made for which Gameplay the player prefers most and wants to play ONLY. Regardless of your choice should be all players be able to receive those Emotes.

Example:

I'm a PvE'er 100% pure, I prefer PvE over PvP and DON'T want to play PvP at all (with the exception of PvP Events in PvE, that are just for fun, stuff like Costume Brawl ...where is no idiotic elitism in it, like in GvG or HA)
I want to have now for example a way, to earn me thsoe emotes by playing PVE!!!! and not by getting forced to play HA over and over for them because HA is the stupid only way yet in GW, to earn Fame Points.

If Anet would link those Emotes also to the KoaBD-Title, then would have PvE'ers finally also their own way to get those emotes, without getting anyhow forced to play elitism PvP, if you don't want to play PvP at all.
-----
-----

People have much quicker earned with a good team R3 by PvP, than a player will need to max 5 Titles, anyone who says somethign else is an idiot, who wants to blockade this good idea only, cause of fear, their beloved emote would get then lesser "value". But thats ever again the same thing you see everywhere here, when soemthing good gets sugessted, that would make the game more fair or again more multi character friendly - then come all the selfish ones out of their creepy holes and spam their /notsigns ... and post their partly totally unlogic arguments, so like islandHermet did there now >.>

I want really see this No Life, who has after 1-2 days 5 or more maxed titles >.> It takes alone like 10 hours, if you are good, to get from Lvl 1 to 20.
If you start in prophecies you need also way much more time -.-
Then for the 3 protectors this are 58 Missions together, that you need to do all with all bonis/master in like 36 hours left, means for each Mission you have lesser than 1 hour, like an average of say ~45 Minutes. But some of those missions take longer than this, when you do them with Bonus.
Then it would be blasphemy to say, that person would make all 58 Missions perfectly on 1st try. That person surely loses at some missions too, or is sometimes maybe in Factions not quick enough and has to retry the mission for bonus/master... there are also certain missions, which are better, to play more than once for easier going, like Dunes of Despair.

Then u have only 3 of 5... redo then all those missions of 2 campaigns in HM for guardian in the left lime ? ya sure, dream further IslandHermet >.>

Phoneix I might take you more seriously if your grammar was not so horrible. >.>

Azrael Blackthorne · Mar 11, 2008, 02:07 PM // 14:07

/Not signed

as stated many times above, emotes were made for PvP before titles were, they were the way of showing how skilled you were in HA (when skill mattered that is).

All there would be in kamadan/LA would be morons who grinded out max titles for weeks on end shouting "MY E-PEEN IN BIGGER THAN YOUR E-PEEN, LOOK AT MY LEET EMOTE!!! MUAHAHAHAHAHA!",it would be chaos, pvp titles are fun but hey, the hype is over these days, i personally have Hero r3, took me bloody months to get, about 2 years ago, as i was a hardcore PvE player.

KoaBD is a very nice titles yes, "God Walking Amongst Mere Mortals" shows your pure devotion to GW and how much time youve put into it, but why in gods name do you need an emote to prove that?

remember people Emotes have been around ALLOT longer than titles, and titles have replaced to Emote idea, they can be displayed any time, for all to see, rather than every few minutes.

IMO this people who want an emote for a title are just as bad as people who want more storage, we got it quadrupled, its the toddler state of mind, "they gave me something now i want more of it", why cant you be happy with the fact you've got the title, rather than feeling the need to have a big flashy sign saying "IM BETTER THAN YOU!"

-Azrael

Proff · Mar 11, 2008, 02:19 PM // 14:19

Simply put no one is holding a gun to your head to get the emotes, they are basically a "novelty" item for theose that HA. The emote shows nothing, I'd kick a r10 hero just as quick as someone without a title to flash if they're being an idiot because really go check the services section. Get lucky and get a rare item or mini, sell it and buy rep for 2k each and there's your emote.

Is it really that hard to play the game and not try and show off everytime you pug?

Scary · Mar 11, 2008, 02:56 PM // 14:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Team Ramrod

/notsigned

pve'rs already have 1000000 titles, they sure as hell don't deserve an emote.

If anything /sign for glad title emote.

Not Signed.. look at the quote To true, and it are a 1000000 titles to much

Noel Hope · Mar 11, 2008, 03:01 PM // 15:01

/signed

Why not?
I don't have any of the "Kind of a Big Deal" titles and I never will, but that doesn't mean I need to be a kill joy.
A good friend of mine has this title, he worked hard to get it. I'm sure he'd enjoy having a new, fun emote.

Phoenix Tears · Mar 11, 2008, 04:01 PM // 16:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azrael Blackthorne

KoaBD is a very nice titles yes, "God Walking Amongst Mere Mortals" shows your pure devotion to GW and how much time youve put into it, but why in gods name do you need an emote to prove that?

You can also ask against this:

But why in Gods name do PvP'ers need an emote to prove something, when they have the PvP-Titles they can show and have as motivation for High End pvp, that you can win money and item prizes by playing high end pvp with your guild.

Wherefore deserve PvP'ers the right to have special emotes being only gainable through playing high end pvp, when PvE'ers theoretically have also the same right to gain these emotes by an own way playing high end PvE ....

To reach KoaBD max, so to max those 30 titles, a pve'er has nearly the same time effort, as a player has to play PvP to reach R12+ through playing pvp... and if it realy should take lesser time to reach the best emote by PvE, than over PvP-Way, Anet can't easily increase the requirements for PvE#s by combining the title requirements more with the hall of Monuments,, lika that the HoM muss be completely filled ...
That will add to the time effort of the PvE-way again a huge chunk of time needed, lots of grind to get all elite armors, all heroes equiped with elite armors, all 11 destroyer items, 25 minipets.
Anet could also combine it with the elite-areas, that players have to get those statues from all elite areas to increase the pve tiem effort for the emotes...
-----

The only Anti-Arguement I can personally understand is the E Peen-Arguement, the fear about people spamming it in towns 24/7

Then god damn it - should be the usage of this emote be restricted to PvP-Areas and for PvE in Explorable Areas.
Then you will never see in Towns E Peen-Kiddies ,which spam the emote all night long to provoke others...

But to speak the truth: Even if the emote would be usable in town and e peen-kddies spam the emote around ...

JUST IGNORE SUCH IDIOTS...

god ,really no one cares also too of peopel with huge e-peen behavior in the chat, when they spam, what for titles they all have or so...people just ignore them.

Enjoy more the Game - ignore the e peen-idiots, such people will automatically stop, when everyone ignores them, because that is everything what such people want to reach with their provocations - get other peoples attention...
When they get no attention, they will get bored and stop their stupid childish behavior and when not > REPORT finish !!
I don't let me destroy my enjoy of the game by spamming e peeners, which have to grow up

Everythign around this silly problem is all about mentality only and how you treat others.

People which provoke others by spammign emotes are just kiddies, which get in RL not enough attention and try to get in ingame, through going other peoples on the nerves and those which spam it not for attention are just arrogant assholes, which think, they are something better than others.

Hmm, to make my post short:
I think to get rid of this silly problem, there should be maybe just an option in the menu, that allows players to deactivate the special emote to see from others.

When, when you activate this option, than can people type in so much /emote as they want, you won't see the emotes then...

and due to the fact, that the game gives no message, when usign the emote, like for all the other normal emotes, that chat gets also not spamming by those messages, you can can still keep it activated to see, when someone uses normal emotes, but you will simple not see the special emote and the player can decide for hisself, when he7she wants to see the emote ...

Example:

you are in a town and x peopel start now spaming the special emote, then you go in your menu under options, click 1 button and BAM.. you won't see anymore any deers, wolfs, ect. pop up, when someone uses /emote

problem solved about the E Peen-Problem ^^

Prof Of Black · Mar 11, 2008, 04:56 PM // 16:56

Although I dont waste my time on titles, I'll /sign this thread for the people who do

~Prof.

hippo942 · Mar 11, 2008, 05:06 PM // 17:06

I will sign this as long as it is for r3 or r4 Koabd and above and even though I dont have these yet it would be a good thing to work towards and I dont wanna see noobs that have just done Protector and a few others spamming me to death

Dronte · Mar 11, 2008, 05:09 PM // 17:09

If you want emotes, simply do HA. At least it isnt about grind (well, not so bad at all).

Div · Mar 11, 2008, 05:10 PM // 17:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by I pwnd U

Phoneix I might take you more seriously if your grammar was not so horrible. >.>

I would've taken him more seriously if he wasn't completely wrong this time too, along with a history of being wrong. Or having the most illogical arguments of any bad player.

Why can't people just understand that the emote was made before titles came out, which is why there are emotes for HA and only HA. It's not about the time effort. It's not about the skill required to get it. And Anet is not going to take out something that's been a tradition just because titles came out. Contrary to what most idiots think, "real PvPers" that do GvG think the idea of giving emotes to HA is completely retarded too because HA is such a grind format. But we accept it, simply because there are much less completely retarded whiners who talk about PvP vs PvE. It takes a relatively decent player to get to the top of the GvG scene, but one can have an iq of 70 and still beat the game (maybe...).

Now deal with it, crybabies.

Grasping Darkness · Mar 11, 2008, 05:15 PM // 17:15

/signed but only if it temporarily morphs your toon into Lucifer PVP's avatar

Eddie Frenzy Spam · Mar 11, 2008, 05:16 PM // 17:16

Quote:

To reach KoaBD max, so to max those 30 titles, a pve'er has nearly the same time effort, as a player has to play PvP to reach R12+ through playing pvp... and if it realy should take lesser time to reach the best emote by PvE, than over PvP-Way, Anet can't easily increase the requirements for PvE#s by combining the title requirements more with the hall of Monuments,, lika that the HoM muss be completely filled ...
That will add to the time effort of the PvE-way again a huge chunk of time needed, lots of grind to get all elite armors, all heroes equiped with elite armors, all 11 destroyer items, 25 minipets.
Anet could also combine it with the elite-areas, that players have to get those statues from all elite areas to increase the pve tiem effort for the emotes...

The main difference however in getting PvP titles and getting PvE titles however is NOT the time taken, it's the skill involved in getting those titles. The majority of the PvE titles require NO skill what-so-ever, and infact alot of them only require money and lots of time like the drunkard title.

I'll admit skill level in HA has dropped dramatically due to all the lameway farming, but the people who do play lameway normally only do so upto r3 and then stop, some do continue to lame all the way up to r9, but this figure would be no were near the amount that only play until r3 for that emote. To continue up to r12 playing lame would be an EXTREMELY small amount of people. Most people past r10 will play balanced and reach r12 that way, which DOES require skill.

Why? Because the only way your going to realistically reach r12 in 2 years is by holding halls, and well lameway builds can never hold for very long and make maybe 15 fame max in one run.

Basically what your proposing is giving a fancy emote for mind-numbingly boring, skilless grind...

/notsigned

HawkofStorms · Mar 11, 2008, 05:34 PM // 17:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by holymasamune

I would've taken him more seriously if he wasn't completely wrong this time too, along with a history of being wrong. Or having the most illogical arguments of any bad player.

Why can't people just understand that the emote was made before titles came out, which is why there are emotes for HA and only HA. It's not about the time effort. It's not about the skill required to get it. And Anet is not going to take out something that's been a tradition just because titles came out. Contrary to what most idiots think, "real PvPers" that do GvG think the idea of giving emotes to HA is completely retarded too because HA is such a grind format. But we accept it, simply because there are much less completely retarded whiners who talk about PvP vs PvE. It takes a relatively decent player to get to the top of the GvG scene, but one can have an iq of 70 and still beat the game (maybe...).

Now deal with it, crybabies.

QFT. The emote existed because the Hero title was a "proto title" that existed before all the other ones. Since there was no way to display a title, the only way to show your rank was through the emote.

/still notsigned
KoaBD is a really easy title to get now with 4 games. Any person with moderate grinding can get it.

Azrael Blackthorne · Mar 12, 2008, 03:47 AM // 03:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix Tears

You can also ask against this:

But why in Gods name do PvP'ers need an emote to prove something, when they have the PvP-Titles they can show and have as motivation for High End pvp, that you can win money and item prizes by playing high end pvp with your guild.

Wherefore deserve PvP'ers the right to have special emotes being only gain able through playing high end pvp, when PvE'ers theoretically have also the same right to gain these emotes by an own way playing high end PvE ....

as you read my post, you would have noticed i also said that Emotes were made BEFORE titles, basically, they were the first "proof of achievement", but, there rather annoying, i imagine graphically intensive, and people got annoyed by them quite quickly in PvE, hence the title system

my main point for my /notsigned is

NO PVE TITLE REQUIRES AS MUCH SKILL AS PvP TITLEs, its that simple

Cartographer = time
Protector/Guardian = time + people who aren't thick as a yard of lard
Luxon/Kurzick = FFF anyone?
Survivor = "K.O!! KILLROOOOOOOY"
Drunkard = cash + time
Wisdom + Treasure hunter = time and cash
Party animal = >.>
Sunspear/Lightbringer = well duh
Norn etc. = quest quest quest HM quest HM quest HM quest
Skill Hunter = Wiki
Vanquisher = a LOT of time and good hero set up (legendary is a title i can respect)
Lucky/Unlucky = cash and afk

get all those and you've got 33 titles, how much "skill" do you see? i see commitment and time, not skill, however impressive it is, its not deserving of anything more than a firm handshake, a "well done!" and a pat on the back.

if any title needs an emote its

Champion = GvG best of the best
Gladiator = Time + Coordination and knowledge of skills/counters

never will ANY title in PvE be comparable to a PvP title that isn't r3 hero (admittedly nowadays not hard to get)

-Azrael

romeus petrus · Mar 13, 2008, 10:52 PM // 22:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azrael Blackthorne

if any title needs an emote its

Champion = GvG best of the best
Gladiator = Time + Coordination and knowledge of skills/counters

never will ANY title in PvE be comparable to a PvP title that isn't r3 hero (admittedly nowadays not hard to get)

-Azrael

QFT

To make it simple for simple minds: PvE titles are a grind fest. Grinding should not be rewarded. GG.

Dem Babyz Iz Mine · Mar 13, 2008, 10:59 PM // 22:59

/signed
sorta...I think this would just make me feel like I'm getting my rear handed to me harder...But more power to you obsessive GW freaks

legion_rat · Mar 14, 2008, 12:03 AM // 00:03

/signed its alot of work to get KOATB. I think we sould have them. and I am only 3/5.

~the rat~

Kanyatta · Mar 14, 2008, 04:53 AM // 04:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix Tears

You can also ask against this:

But why in Gods name do PvP'ers need an emote to prove something, when they have the PvP-Titles they can show and have as motivation for High End pvp, that you can win money and item prizes by playing high end pvp with your guild.

Present me a time when a QQ thread was made about how "ZOMG! RANK NEEDS A SPECIAL EMOTEEEEEEE!!!!" on guru. Can't? That's what I thought. No one asked for it, that I know of, it was just a feature in the game, don't hold PvPers accountable for something we didn't really ask for.

Rank is easy to obtain, but KoaBD is easier than rank. Like Blackthorne said, if any title's deserve an emote, it's Champ or Glad.

On an unrelated note, by reading through recent threads here, I can see that everyone using the abbreviation "QFT" very far out of context. It seems like it's being used more in agreement than anything nowadays.