Curse

mr_groovy · Nov 01, 2006, 08:03 AM // 08:03

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Originally Posted by Aztec Mijo

couldnt someone just get the 6 easiest titles( 3 mission/bonus 3 cartograpther)?

i dont like this idea, eventually almost anyone could get the koabd titles.

theres also survivor, treasure and wisdom titles which aren't hard to get.

do the sunspear and lightbringer titles count now?

It's easier to get 3 carto + 3 protectors then getting rank 3 doing HA? If you are in a pvp oriented guild (or did double fame weekend ). It took my lot's of hours to get the carto titles, and getting al the bonus/ masters. And isn't always as easy as it seems. (though i henched dunes of despair, fire islands and THK for bonus but that's experience

).

Again this visual recognition is for maxing out 5 titles, which takes dedication and should be rewared as such.

freekedoutfish · Nov 01, 2006, 08:59 AM // 08:59

/signed

As I'll soon have my 5/5 title once I get 100% on Elona.

And after all that hard work of getting 100% and protector on both tyria and cantha, I would like some recognision.

blastm · Nov 01, 2006, 09:15 AM // 09:15

/notsignet

those who have it can already show off without an emote, and i'd rather have anet working on something else.

nugzta · Nov 01, 2006, 10:24 AM // 10:24

And then people would complain elitism in PvE lol

Not A Fifty Five · Nov 01, 2006, 05:05 PM // 17:05

lol yeah. And guys remember the rank 3 emote is not about the title. the emote existed BEFORE the title.

Drewfense · Nov 01, 2006, 07:02 PM // 19:02

Not even going to bother reading after the first post to say...

/notsigned

Protector, explorer, and drunkard titles require next to zero skill. If you C+Space long enough, you will eventually get them. With expanding chapters, the value of KoaBD decreases. Even one of the few titles I think is worth anything, survivor, can be farmed. Zero skill = no emote.

On a completely unrelated note, I would like to petition for all HA emotes to be abolished.

Praetor · Nov 01, 2006, 07:27 PM // 19:27

/notsigned

We need a.net to actually work on a skill balancing overhaul, not implement more bells and whistles. If anything, /rank should be taken out. You can already check someone's exact rank through the title display.

MDeshame · Nov 01, 2006, 07:31 PM // 19:31

If the emote is the one you act like your forceably borking a chick from behind, yea I'm all for that.

mr_groovy · Nov 01, 2006, 07:50 PM // 19:50

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Originally Posted by Drewfense

Not even going to bother reading after the first post to say...

/notsigned

Protector, explorer, and drunkard titles require next to zero skill. If you C+Space long enough, you will eventually get them. With expanding chapters, the value of KoaBD decreases. Even one of the few titles I think is worth anything, survivor, can be farmed. Zero skill = no emote.

On a completely unrelated note, I would like to petition for all HA emotes to be abolished.

As if playing Vim \ Vimway or Iway involves skill

.
And it doesn't dercease in value, because it shows dedication and admirens for one char. They could simply start a new char for every chapter. But instead chose to keep the old one.

As said before the kind of a big deal is one of the more prestige / grinding titles to get. And much be rewarded

Quote:

We need a.net to actually work on a skill balancing overhaul, not implement more bells and whistles. If anything, /rank should be taken out. You can already check someone's exact rank through the title display.

I think when anet looses the /rank emote, lot's of people will stop playing ha.

ekamdu · Nov 01, 2006, 08:47 PM // 20:47

/signed

and an emote for Incorrigable Alehound too!!! ^_^

Kalki · Nov 01, 2006, 10:24 PM // 22:24

This isn't a question about skill it's a question about time investment and getting a reward for that. Sure my 2 maxed cartography might've been "easy", but it took a helluva lot of persistence. Sure most of the bonuses on missions were "easy", but some of them were quite hard and took numerous attempts before I was successful (i.e. Abaddon's Mouth).

KoaBD is a time consuming title to get and my hat goes off to anyone that has the title. Although it's becoming a less impressive title as the game grows. When I see someone with KoaBD title now I don't know if they merely bought KoaBD with Drunkard, Lucky/Unlucky, Wisdom/Chest titles or if they worked hard playing the game normal for Protector/Cartography titles. I'm still most impressed by seeing 100% Cartographer, Protector, or Skill Hunter titles. I think that more visual recognition is needed for the individual titles before KoaBD.

Oh... and I'm still happy we even have titles at all. I remember 7 months ago being sad I couldn't get recognition for doing bonus missions or exploring.

Aztec Mijo · Nov 02, 2006, 03:44 AM // 03:44

everyone keeps saying that an emote will show some reward about the koabd title, but aren't titles themselves the reward?

most of the extras or components that aren't terribly important to the pve/pvp are kepts subtle for a reason.

think what you want but this just sounds like ppl want more for nothing (which isn't the first time in this game) and will probably cause lag in towns if not more.

VitisVinifera · Nov 02, 2006, 06:15 AM // 06:15

/signed

When I got whiff that there would be some special result of title maxing, I thought for sure there'd be one for KoaBD. Even if it's something vanity-related, like an emote.....just something! Alas........

Anyways, I'm 4/5 with about 30 NF elites to cap to being 5/5, while also attaining Protector and Gmaster Catographer of Elona, and have a huge stash of alcohol, I could be 8/10 fairly soon. Surely 'People Know Me' must have some reward (of course the real one is personal, and also wearing the title)

skillsbas8 · Nov 02, 2006, 06:29 AM // 06:29

/notsigned for an emote
Emotes are strictly for PVP and should remain that way, as it is one of the few signs of "recognition" pvp offers. Allowing it to be obtained in PVE will be somewhat frustrating.
Some other reward would be a good idea, as it is hard to obtain. Perhaps some PVE boost or something along those lines.
/signed for something other than emote

Clawdius_Talonious · Nov 02, 2006, 06:31 AM // 06:31

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Originally Posted by skillsbas8

/notsigned for an emote
Emotes are strictly for PVP and should remain that way, as it is one of the few signs of "recognition" pvp offers. Allowing it to be obtained in PVE will be somewhat frustrating.
Some other reward would be a good idea, as it is hard to obtain. Perhaps some PVE boost or something along those lines.
/signed for something other than emote

An emote doesn't have to be anything at all like a big glowing animal you know

freekedoutfish · Nov 02, 2006, 09:05 AM // 09:05

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Originally Posted by Drewfense

Not even going to bother reading after the first post to say...

/notsigned

Protector, explorer, and drunkard titles require next to zero skill. If you C+Space long enough, you will eventually get them. With expanding chapters, the value of KoaBD decreases. Even one of the few titles I think is worth anything, survivor, can be farmed. Zero skill = no emote.

On a completely unrelated note, I would like to petition for all HA emotes to be abolished.

Requires 0 skill?

Have you actually got 100% on both tyria and cantha?

Have you tried exploring between beacons perch and the war camp as an Elemental?

Yes all it takes is hugging walls, but you always have to clear out mobs of creatures and have the mentality to keep going back again and again and again.

Have you tried exploring the region in DOD to the bottom right and the fort to the left?

Something for which you need a strong team with teleport, or a strong monk to keep the ghost alive while you explore. Something which is near impossible to do because AGAIN, either no one has the knowledge to understand about teleporting over the wall or they cant be bothered to help you.

It ISNT easy and it certainly does take alot more then 0 skill.

Because otherwise.....

....we would have EVERYONE with 100%.

But how many people do you see with 100% on tyria? Not that many, maybe one a week when moving around.

The reason; Because most people cant be BOTHERED to get it, because their lazey.

Sophitia Leafblade · Nov 02, 2006, 09:59 AM // 09:59

I totally agree with the person above, the Exploration and Protector Titles do require skill. Having to search every nook and cranny and take down large amounts of enemys fo all shapes and descriptions in the process is both time consuming and consisting of a varying level of difficulty from easy times in Ascalon to much harder times exploring south Shiverpeaks and the Fire Isle requires atleast some skill. The Protector titles certainly require some skills, I can think of several that are considered more difficult than the others such as Dunes and Raisu and that’s just the bonus’s, ignoring the actual mission difficultly. Although a a lot of people don’t attempy for them because they cant be bothered a large number of people get these titles because they simply cant do bonus/Masters x or cant make there way through area y.

The Silver Star · Nov 02, 2006, 10:15 AM // 10:15

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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

The reason; Because most people cant be BOTHERED to get it, because their lazey.

They have a life outside Guild Wars

/notsigned

Its a nice idea but it is deffinately a Title that requires time and money only not skill.

Stupid Shizno · Nov 02, 2006, 10:18 AM // 10:18

/notsigned

Emotes where the way to define time in HA. It was the only way to tell who was "ranked", wether rank means skill or just time in game these days is a matter of debate, no emotes are needed for pvp.

pve'ers complained that they never had anyway to tell who was "uber leet", and everyone knows /rank is useless outside of HA, so why do you care? Anet finally made all pve shutup by giving them titles to prove their "leetness". Now you want more? please. You got the titles that say just how "leet" you are that is enough.

You can say getting 180 fame is easier then the protector missions, and you deserve some regonition in a /emote for that, but honestly, how hard is getting all mission/bonus anyways? half the time you hench it. If you really want an emote that bad, go to HA and run vimway and get your 180 since its so easy.

As that is said, its on the same note that pvp creation dosnt need vanity items, thats the whole point of pve.

cataphract · Nov 02, 2006, 11:02 AM // 11:02

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Originally Posted by nugzta

And then people would complain elitism in PvE lol

They wouldn't - it's been there for.. how long now? 18 months? Let's say 16. Still, that's an awful amount of time of elitist idiots in PvE. I have one on my FL, I simply love that guy. When I met him 12 months ago he was a PvE elitist. Today, he's not only that - he's a PvP elitist too. Now, let us take a moment of silence and pay our respects to the thousands upon thousands of slaughtered pets in HA.

There's nothing you can do about elitists other than to ignore them like you ignore the same idiots you meet while you're AFK.

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Originally Posted by The Silver Star

They have a life outside Guild Wars

I do too, but I do have both Tyrian and Canthan maps at 100% and both protectors titles for them. One could argue that rank 10+ does not have a live outside of GW too, but that would be too easy.

As to "no skill = no emote" argument I submit that there are thousands people with no skill and a tiger emote. We could say that for the phoenix aswell, but let's not go there. Mkay?

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Originally Posted by Death3D

You can say getting 180 fame is easier then the protector missions, and you deserve some regonition in a /emote for that, but honestly, how hard is getting all mission/bonus anyways? half the time you hench it. If you really want an emote that bad, go to HA and run vimway and get your 180 since its so easy.

6 hours of vimway/iway/(insert idiotic build here) compared to at least 12 hours for each Protector. Yeah, totally deserved emote. My bad.

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Originally Posted by Death3D

As that is said, its on the same note that pvp creation dosnt need vanity items, thats the whole point of pve.

What was said in the quote is a load of.. bull droppings.