Curse

gameshoes3003 · Sep 27, 2009, 07:15 PM // 19:15

It's been a while since "Brace Yourself!" was buffed, but yet Balthazar's Pendulum was not changed at all. In a PvE perspective, Balthazar's Pendulum is rather useless.
Can it be buffed to either knockdown all foes adjacent to the target, or can it just knock one guy down and deal ridiculous damage back?
I'm rather dry on ideas because it'd be nice if it could be a little bit more comparable to "Brace Yourself!"

sonofthort · Sep 27, 2009, 08:10 PM // 20:10

I agree that it is a rather underpowered elite. I like the damage Idea, either that or increase the number of knockdowns it effects.

/signed

IronSheik · Sep 27, 2009, 08:12 PM // 20:12

For PvE single target anti KD is an ok idea, but the all adjacent gives me a happy

sonofthort · Sep 27, 2009, 08:20 PM // 20:20

i dont see adding adjacent range to be that effective especially for pvp, which is where the skill should theoretically shine. In pve use I am unstoppable or use shield of judgement if you want adjacent knockdowns.

Xx Da Best Xx · Sep 27, 2009, 08:29 PM // 20:29

I think maybe a 40...100 holy dmg add on would make me consider using it in some areas

Reverend Dr · Sep 27, 2009, 08:29 PM // 20:29

When is anti-KD ever needed in PvE? Really balth's pendulum as an elite in PvE would exist only in farming or flat out terrible builds.

It doesn't need a buff in PvP. When it had seen play it generated a ton of complaints.

pinguinius · Sep 27, 2009, 08:45 PM // 20:45

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Originally Posted by Reverend Dr

When is anti-KD ever needed in PvE?

Any place with giants, dolyaks, rot wallows, ice golems, monk nightmares, hydras, etc.

Bob Slydell · Sep 27, 2009, 08:48 PM // 20:48

I'd say change the functionality to:

Elite Enchantment Spell. For 5...9...10 seconds, whenever target ally would be knocked down by a foe, that foe is knocked down instead.

So basically, for the duration of whatever your attribute is set at, Whenever the ally is supposed to be knocked down, the foe just knocks himself down.

I don't see too much imbalance coming from this as the duration can't go much higher than 10 unless you use consumable buffs (which can only be used in PvE, not PvP) and not everyone has them. My point being how many times will one person knock down their target, this would be anti knockdown primarily for one friend to fend off knockdowns from say multiple warriors.

As far as damage goes, nah....we already have Shield of Judgment to cause enemy damage and knockdown when they just hit the target.

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Originally Posted by Reverend Dr

When is anti-KD ever needed in PvE? Really balth's pendulum as an elite in PvE would exist only in farming or flat out terrible builds.

It doesn't need a buff in PvP. When it had seen play it generated a ton of complaints.

Who's to say it HAD seen play, now that you say it generated a ton of complaints I'm about to use it just to piss off people.

Red Apple · Sep 27, 2009, 08:55 PM // 20:55

Make it stop the time so monks can heal forever and ever together.

Arkantos · Sep 27, 2009, 09:21 PM // 21:21

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Originally Posted by Reverend Dr

When is anti-KD ever needed in PvE? Really balth's pendulum as an elite in PvE would exist only in farming or flat out terrible builds.

This. With its current function, it's hard to make it useful in PvE. Anti-kd is rarely needed, and if you really need it there are good non-elite skills you can use.

mathiastemplar · Sep 27, 2009, 09:21 PM // 21:21

Buff it.. /signed.
Buff all skills to:
Skill, for 100 seconds you are immortal and deal infinite damage to target foe within compass range. Recharge: 10 seconds. energy cost:5

Srsly.. /signed.

Shadowed Ritualist · Sep 27, 2009, 09:29 PM // 21:29

/signed for the whenever buff to it from chris. I was gonna say that to but he beat me to it

Zahr Dalsk · Sep 27, 2009, 09:33 PM // 21:33

Make it non-elite and affect the entire party.

Thus a handy utility skill for certain areas without needing to waste an elite slot or make it overpowered.

Thenameless Wonder · Sep 27, 2009, 10:13 PM // 22:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by mathiastemplar

Buff it.. /signed.
Buff all skills to:
Skill, for 100 seconds you are immortal and deal infinite damage to target foe within compass range. Recharge: 10 seconds. energy cost:5

Srsly.. /signed.

Signed, but make it a 1/2 sec recharge skill that costs 1 energy

Reverend Dr · Sep 27, 2009, 11:03 PM // 23:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrisworld

Who's to say it HAD seen play, now that you say it generated a ton of complaints I'm about to use it just to piss off people.

rawr's 4 monk build

I don't mean RA rage of "noob runner monk", I mean legitimate complaints.

jonnieboi05 · Sep 28, 2009, 01:26 AM // 01:26

Do not want current Balth's Pendulum. A buff/change would be appropriate.

~LeNa~

Arkantos · Sep 28, 2009, 01:48 AM // 01:48

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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

Make it non-elite and affect the entire party.

Thus a handy utility skill for certain areas without needing to waste an elite slot or make it overpowered.

The problem with this suggestion is that it would make knockdowns from enemies in PvE completely useless. It's essentially an easy button to counter something that shouldn't be a problem.

Axel Zinfandel · Sep 28, 2009, 02:58 AM // 02:58

/Signed only if they buff it to a non anti-KD state. anti-KD is not needed in PvE save for running, and despite what a previous poster said about monsters with KD skills, it's much easier to simply ignore the KD and move on.

I'd personally like to see an elite Reversal of Damage out of it

Zahr Dalsk · Sep 28, 2009, 03:45 AM // 03:45

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

The problem with this suggestion is that it would make knockdowns from enemies in PvE completely useless. It's essentially an easy button to counter something that shouldn't be a problem.

Knockdowns from enemies in PvE also aren't much of a problem in the first place, though, so having this as a counter wouldn't do much beyond make gameplay a bit more convenient against enemies with AoE KD abilities.

As the skill stands now, of course, it might as well not exist.

Nuclfus · Sep 28, 2009, 04:36 AM // 04:36

I think it'd be cool to make it an Elite version of Reversal of Damage, similar to Mark of Protection versus Reversal of Fortune. But even with careful balance efforts, doing this would obviously open up some dangerous territory for farming and PvP abuse, so while it sounds interesting I can imagine it might create way more problems than it solves.