Curse

Joe Fierce · Oct 31, 2009, 09:30 PM // 21:30

Leave the skeleton dhuums in uw even after halloween event is over.

That's all, thanks.

What do other people in the playerbase think of this suggestion?

Lol@ uwsc if they do, same with fiftyfiveing.

Grim Aragorn · Oct 31, 2009, 09:42 PM // 21:42

/sign.........

**Waits for SF Trolls, and mods**

QueenofDeath · Oct 31, 2009, 09:52 PM // 21:52

/triple sign long live killing SC and SF I'll sign anything for that.

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optymind · Oct 31, 2009, 09:54 PM // 21:54

this doesnt fix the real problem... those gd 600monks....

worstnameevar · Oct 31, 2009, 10:01 PM // 22:01

Your couch!

Seems like leaving them in would just be another cop out, like dying nightmares were/are.

HawkofStorms · Oct 31, 2009, 10:03 PM // 22:03

Isn't that the point?

Braxton619 · Oct 31, 2009, 10:06 PM // 22:06

The only problem UWSC is still in play. They need to add some other skills such as Choking Gas so it will interrupt their spells.

Joe Fierce · Oct 31, 2009, 10:08 PM // 22:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leet Tankur

The only problem UWSC is still in play. They need to add some other skills such as Choking Gas so it will interrupt their spells.

Agreed, I think sf should have a place, and editing the skill bars of or adding enemies is much better than nerfing stuff. A change to an enemies skill bar or adding an enemy is simply spicing it up, nothing more.

Kerwyn Nasilan · Oct 31, 2009, 10:22 PM // 22:22

I think the the Skeletons need a PBAoE enchantment removal skill.

Shayne Hawke · Oct 31, 2009, 10:28 PM // 22:28

That's not already their intention?

Aba · Oct 31, 2009, 10:30 PM // 22:30

I think they should add a bunch of pop ups with some type of Monster Perma Sin skill bar just to blow our minds

Tom Swift · Oct 31, 2009, 10:30 PM // 22:30

I think leaving them in was kind of the point in the first place.

I doubt it will have a huge affect on Speed clears though it may slow them down a little. I know it doesn't seem to affect my ectos farming, just changes the method a bit.

zelgadissan · Oct 31, 2009, 10:30 PM // 22:30

But if they nerf UWSC, they'll have to change the dialogue of the HA assassin henchman. Far too much work for Anet.

Quote:

My master told me that the life of an assassin is a lonely one, but I'm still surprised that my brother Kah Xan and I are the only assassins to have answered the Zaishen's call. Apparently many of my master's other students have recently taken to raiding the treasures of Grenth's realm. I decided that volunteering my services to the Zaishen would be a better choice. Riches from the lord of the Underworld will not come without a price, and it will be a high one.

Edit: /signed for Symeon's option 2, based on the last sentence of my quote.

Symeon · Oct 31, 2009, 10:36 PM // 22:36

If this is all they're going to do, it won't even damage UWSC much, let alone fix the real problem. Sure, UWSC is probably the worst use of SF, but there are many other ways in which it makes PvE a giant cesspool of shittery. There are only a few things ANet could do to solve the problem which would not involve changing SF:

1) Prevent anyone with SF on their skill bar from joining a party or entering an explorable area/mission
2) Permaban anyone who puts SF on their skill bar
3) Give monsters in every area of the game a skill that insta-kills SF users

Yes, any of these would be as good as nerfing SF. Your choice, ANet.

Trub · Oct 31, 2009, 10:41 PM // 22:41

Quote:

Riches from the lord of the Underworld will not come without a price, and it will be a high one.

ooooooooh.
I just had a 'wtf' moment.
Please, tell me if I'm just ramblin':
This looks to be an 'Event chain' set up.
Like when in LoD D2, you waited for Diablo to walk the earth-kinda-thingy.
Too many deaths in UW---Dhuum pops out, and you better pray you have a 'full' team nearby?
I hopes I iz correct...

Joe Fierce · Nov 01, 2009, 12:07 AM // 00:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Symeon

If this is all they're going to do, it won't even damage UWSC much, let alone fix the real problem. Sure, UWSC is probably the worst use of SF, but there are many other ways in which it makes PvE a giant cesspool of shittery. There are only a few things ANet could do to solve the problem which would not involve changing SF:

1) Prevent anyone with SF on their skill bar from joining a party or entering an explorable area/mission
2) Permaban anyone who puts SF on their skill bar
3) Give monsters in every area of the game a skill that insta-kills SF users

Yes, any of these would be as good as nerfing SF. Your choice, ANet.

This is the type of helpful constructive input I'd expect from a forum moderator.

Eragon Zarroc · Nov 01, 2009, 12:34 AM // 00:34

ummm, more than likely they will leave the skeletons. we will only have to wait a few days to find out. kinda a pointless thread...

Zahr Dalsk · Nov 01, 2009, 01:17 AM // 01:17

Just kill off SF and thus you also end its use everywhere else.

Martin Alvito · Nov 01, 2009, 01:34 AM // 01:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Fierce

This is the type of helpful constructive input I'd expect from a forum moderator.

You may not like the tone much, but the post definitely expresses an opinion that moves the thread.

Anti-SF players are all out of patience when it comes to the issue. It was obvious to anyone with rudimentary knowledge of game mechanics that the buff to the skill was OP. The consequences were extreme and ANet has repeatedly refused to admit the error and revert. UWSC has been going on for over a year and a half now, and players broke most dungeons with SF well over a year ago.

His point is simple - half measures won't work. There's a long trail of changes to UW and changes to SF that prove that point. Hyperbole may not be the best way of making the point, but it does communicate it.

@ Trub - One can hope that some sort of productive, fundamental change will occur that both slows down the rate of ecto creation and provides new rewards that still incentivize people to play UW.

Reformed · Nov 01, 2009, 01:47 AM // 01:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by zelgadissan

Edit: /signed for Symeon's option 2, based on the last sentence of my quote.

Yeah, let's permaban people for using a skill that isn't even close to being in an EULA gray area. Ridiculous options aside it has been pointed out many times before the biggest underlying flaw is monster AI. If it was just set up to avoid targets it can't possibly kill and recognized that all it was doing was missing most of the problems would go away. Attack skills that "penetrate all defenses" is an interesting twist but it's not the answer.