Curse

king swift · Jun 01, 2009, 07:08 PM // 19:08

/signed

Anet is raping us with this micro charges

Yawgmoth · Jun 01, 2009, 07:22 PM // 19:22

Makeovers should have costed ingame gold - an awesome gold sink, but ZCoins would be perfectly fine aswell.

If a makeover costed like 5 gold coins and extreme 20 or 25 gold coins then people wouldn't stop paying $$$ for them if they aleady did pay for something like that.

/signed, more options is good here. Even if it was a limited offer of 1 per account or something.

jimme · Jun 01, 2009, 07:40 PM // 19:40

Yes please. I can't even buy stuff from the NCstore / in-game store.
/signed

ajc2123 · Jun 01, 2009, 08:22 PM // 20:22

Biased poll is biased

/Request poll change
/notsigned due to people already buying them.
/laughs at it never happening even with over 9000 votes for yes

Baden Mac Corvin · Jun 01, 2009, 08:26 PM // 20:26

You people need to notice that arena net is in the gaming industry to make money like every other type of business. Like what was said by many of the developers on the live team this is something that takes some doing to accomplish. We have been given more than our original investment and arena net needs to make money to fuel their other projects and keep guild wars alive. so in other words for those of you who whine and complain to make it clear /not signed

ajc2123 · Jun 01, 2009, 08:29 PM // 20:29

btw, the ingame option to do makeovers is called buy new armor.

Solved.

upier · Jun 01, 2009, 09:20 PM // 21:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baden Mac Corvin

You people need to notice that arena net is in the gaming industry to make money like every other type of business. Like what was said by many of the developers on the live team this is something that takes some doing to accomplish. We have been given more than our original investment and arena net needs to make money to fuel their other projects and keep guild wars alive. so in other words for those of you who whine and complain to make it clear /not signed

So you are telling me you'd rather pay for something you didn't have to?

ajc2123 · Jun 01, 2009, 09:34 PM // 21:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by upier

So you are telling me you'd rather pay for something you didn't have to?

No, he's saying we already got so much that we SHOULD have paid for and didn't.

Makeovers are a luxury and should be treated as such. Name changes could be a way out of getting banned, but other then that, also a luxury.

Micro transactions are a good thing.

Bob Slydell · Jun 01, 2009, 09:40 PM // 21:40

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Originally Posted by Neo Atomisk

/notsigned, we already ask a-net for so much, and you still want to eat away at their funds?

You are right about us asking anet for a lot, but has 3/4's of that stuff even been added or answered to? Not really. Instead we got something we didn't even see coming, concise skill descriptions (back when more then half the GW population originally asked for makeovers at the time they added those descriptions) which took up the oh so "precious time" of the devs that would have also been the same amount of time to add the makeover system.

Time Taken to add Consice Skill Descrptions on all of the 1319 skills (not to mention for all supported languages PLUS the bork bork bork language) in the game > Time taken Adding char makeover system.

-I only brought that up because im still shocked from the day that happened. lulz.

I signed for the lulz as its such an easily added implementation theres already MMO's that let you buy char makeovers for cheap in-game gold.

Heres one crazy thing to off balance the cost though, your gonna love this....

Implement Z Coins for makeover while you can now buy Z-Coins for real life money on the in-game store. LOL

MithranArkanere · Jun 02, 2009, 11:31 AM // 11:31

The price would have to bee incredibly high to make sure people still consider paying as an option. Smething in the lines of... 100 Gold.

Cargan · Jun 02, 2009, 12:01 PM // 12:01

definitely /not signed. do you even remember the crap that came up over the BMP? Something people had to purchase stuff in the ingame store to acquire during a limited time, only for it to be purchasable at a cheaper price at a later date? That was a big arguement between 2 lots of customers who PAY for additional optional content.

Now consider this. Customers who pay for OPTIONAL/LUXURY privelidges will continue to pay for things they want, like name changes and makeovers. Yes, the customers who generate the most revenue for Anet. If they go and make something like this free ingame after the customers who generate the most revenue have paid for it then they're just pissing off those customers.

so, Anets options:

1. don't make it available without real money transactions thereby maximising profit and keeping the paying customers happy. Also generating more revenue for them now, and in the future.

2. make it availabe ingame without any real money payments to stop freeloaders moaning on guru, pissing off the paying customers who have already paid and losing a lot of revenue for themselevs now, and in the future. Also ensuring that no-one buys anything from the ingame store again as they'll be expecting that to be free ingame at a later date too.

...and don't start with the pointless arguement that you've paid for the game to start with and are a paying customer for that reason. You paid for the content available in the game at the time. You haven't paid for luxuries like name changes and makeovers.

Kook~NBK~ · Jun 02, 2009, 03:04 PM // 15:04

What a lovely poll... The first option makes the implication that the current method of getting makeovers is unfair. NEWS FLASH: Leaving aside the monetary exchange rates for different RL currencies (whole other can of worms) used by GW player, the method of getting makeovers is fair. In the U.S., for example - it costs the same for you...me...them...everybody. Don't have $10 (or whatever it is)? Go earn it!

The second option insults anyone who would consider opposing the suggestion of the OP.

The bottom line is that it's a very biased poll. It's also very hypocritical -OP seeks what he/she calls "fairness" by using an unfair poll? PFFT!

/not signed.

dusanyu · Jun 02, 2009, 03:30 PM // 15:30

What you think running Game servers is free ? There is not a new Expansion Coming to sell for a while anet needs the money to keep the lights on.

Mordakai · Jun 02, 2009, 03:59 PM // 15:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrisworld

I signed for the lulz as its such an easily added implementation theres already MMO's that let you buy char makeovers for cheap in-game gold.

And are those MMOs free to play?

Hey, doesn't WoW charge for their makeovers AND charge a monthly fee to boot?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrisworld

Heres one crazy thing to off balance the cost though, your gonna love this....

Implement Z Coins for makeover while you can now buy Z-Coins for real life money on the in-game store. LOL

That's not crazy. It's a good idea, in fact, I suggested it on page 1.

I want to BUY a Large Equipment pack, and Anet wants my money. Win-win.

Solas · Jun 02, 2009, 04:01 PM // 16:01

Fair Poll-.-
Imo it's void, with your choice of words it is obviously partial to option 1.

they should reconsider the prices of the name change and toon change. but bring an in game way aswell? nope one or the other as it's already in the store.

/not-signed

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mordakai

I want to BUY a Large Equipment pack, and Anet wants my money. Win-win.

Yeah but then we really are moving into item shop territory.
I'd say a nice number of players would leave straight out if that happened.

upier · Jun 02, 2009, 04:14 PM // 16:14

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Originally Posted by ajc2123

No, he's saying we already got so much that we SHOULD have paid for and didn't.

Makeovers are a luxury and should be treated as such. Name changes could be a way out of getting banned, but other then that, also a luxury.

Micro transactions are a good thing.

While I agree that makeover are not something core, thus they are the perfect material to charge for IF they choose to do so - I would still primarily want them to be free.

That is why I support this idea, despite not really caring that they charge real money for it. Plus, I wouldn't mind changing a few of my guys. And I know I won't be paying for it.

genofreek · Jun 02, 2009, 06:15 PM // 18:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kook~NBK~

What a lovely poll... The first option makes the implication that the current method of getting makeovers is unfair. NEWS FLASH: Leaving aside the monetary exchange rates for different RL currencies (whole other can of worms) used by GW player, the method of getting makeovers is fair. In the U.S., for example - it costs the same for you...me...them...everybody. Don't have $10 (or whatever it is)? Go earn it!

The second option insults anyone who would consider opposing the suggestion of the OP.

The bottom line is that it's a very biased poll. It's also very hypocritical -OP seeks what he/she calls "fairness" by using an unfair poll? PFFT!

/not signed.

Quoted for go red engine truth right there. Anet is a company, they're here to make money, and that doesn't make them evil. And frankly, I can get $10 (for five regular makeovers, even!) a whoooole lot faster than I can farm whatever insane amounts of gold Z coins they'd ask if this became an option.

Phoenix Tears · Jun 02, 2009, 08:14 PM // 20:14

/signed

had really pissed me off, that the stylist is so, like it is at the moment with these heavyreal money costs...

there needs to be an alternative way for all thoses players, which simple dont want or better said CAN'T pay the stylist with real money, like for example preteen kids in most of all cases, which makes the whole feature unfair and not well thought out.

With a Zaishen Coint Solution, the problem would be perfectly solved.

Say an amount of xx Gold Coins for a Gender Change and xx Silver Goins for Face/Hair Style Changes as like for Heigth Chances of the Character.

For example 25 Gold Coins for a gender change

25 Silver Coins for face/hair style/hegth changes or instead 2 Gold Cons and 5 Silver

should be imo a fair price...players which want the feature for free would have to work for it ingame, while players who want it have quick have to pay for it !!

Xyon the Greatest · Jun 02, 2009, 08:22 PM // 20:22

money is different from imaginary game items.

Winterclaw · Jun 02, 2009, 08:30 PM // 20:30

Zcoins sounds pretty fair so long as you get the numbers right. I'm thinking a few silver for a basic change and gold for a gender or name change.