Nov 13, 2009, 09:33 AM // 09:33
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#1
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Forge Runner
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Rework Gladiator title
Before the update that removed TA, the fastest way to get Gladiator points was to TA. You could get very long streaks indeed (40+) and those got you Gladiator points faster than anything else. Almost all the high-ranked Gladiators I know got their points largely from TA, with only a very few that got the majority from RA.
Without TA, it's harder to get Gladiator points. Even if you sync a full 4-man team into RA you're capped at 25 wins. With a slower rate of gaining Gladiator points it's only fair that the difficulty of the title be reduced similarly - think what happened when Gladiator points used to come once every 10 wins, but when it was changed to once every 5 wins its diffculty was similarly changed.
Exactly how much to change by I don't know, but a small reduction in difficulty seems most appropriate to me.
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Nov 13, 2009, 01:07 PM // 13:07
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#2
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Academy Page
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: :>
Guild: notplayingGWatm[:o]
Profession: Mo/
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yeah, and the title would become so hated like commander (omg lol you didnt earn it you did rr lolololololololololololol get my point?)
/notsigned
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Nov 13, 2009, 01:50 PM // 13:50
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#3
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Atra esternĂ ono thelduin
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Madness Incarnate
Guild: [Duo]
Profession: W/P
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tejive
yeah, and the title would become so hated like commander (omg lol you didnt earn it you did rr lolololololololololololol get my point?)
/notsigned
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it is in no way similar to RR.
This would is very reasonable seeing as ur capped at 19 points a full run and then have to find a whole new team to have a run that long. It makes gaining glad points so much longer. But adjusting it now after so many people have managed to farm it so much in TA would mean that those with higher ranks already would be greatly inflated. But meh. Maybe they should adust the numer of points u get for winning to adjust for the fact that you can only get points from RA now. idk.
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Nov 13, 2009, 01:57 PM // 13:57
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#4
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Sep 2007
Guild: Trinity of the Ascended [ToA]
Profession: A/
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Agreed. HA > RA insofar as coordination and general overall skill, but Hero is not necessarily harder than Gladiator to obtain. Case in point, I don't believe Glads has been maxed. Hero has, even if only by a few.
RA is supposed to be more introductory PvP, at least in my mind. The title in no way reflects that.
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Nov 13, 2009, 02:26 PM // 14:26
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#5
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Dec 2008
Profession: R/
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its good the way it is, period.
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Nov 13, 2009, 02:29 PM // 14:29
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#6
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Pre-Searing Cadet
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/signed
Um... According to ANET's first prediction we should be playing Guild Wars 2 by now, and nobody has come close to maxing the Gladiator title? Has anyone even gotten 3/4th of the way to max?
This has always needed a rework though, so I doubt this thread will change that.
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Nov 13, 2009, 02:33 PM // 14:33
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#7
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Canada
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/notsigned
There are better ways for ArenaNet to spend their time.
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Nov 13, 2009, 02:41 PM // 14:41
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#8
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Atra esternĂ ono thelduin
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Madness Incarnate
Guild: [Duo]
Profession: W/P
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk
/notsigned
There are better ways for ArenaNet to spend their time.
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lol. honestly, how long do u think it would take to change a few values for title reqs?
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Nov 13, 2009, 03:17 PM // 15:17
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#9
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Pre-Searing Cadet
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk
/notsigned
There are better ways for ArenaNet to spend their time.
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...People seem to FORGET that Anet has a TEAM of devs who's SOLE purpose is to maintain the game and its balance. Of all the things they are REQUIRED to do, I would say this is one of them.
I'm tired of everybody saying, "THERE ARE BETTER THINGS FOR THEM TO DO!"
Like what? Add a Minipet Menagerie? Add more high end minis? Twiddle their thumbs with nothing to do because everything they thought about doing wasnt the BEST use of their time?
If everyone was so paranoid that they didn't accomplish anything because "there are better ways to spend your time" why the hell are you playing a video game, there are better ways for YOU to spend your time.
Anets better way to spend time right now is making guild wars 2, but we were JUST informed that it won't be completed for at least 1.5+ years.
So instead of complaining to not change the game, I suggest we find things TO change for the better so anet can keep their user base for the added time before gw2 comes out.
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Nov 13, 2009, 03:21 PM // 15:21
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#10
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: May 2007
Guild: Kaons Banned Fecal Super Team [Ban]
Profession: Mo/A
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The cap is pretty dumb to me.
It's not like you'll ever be the single team that rapes every entered team in RA that whole day.
What should possibly be wrong with one team dominating others because they're just better?
They won't be farming the same 20 people over and over anymore due to the district merge, so why complain.
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Nov 13, 2009, 03:26 PM // 15:26
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#11
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Forge Runner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 0,o
Has anyone even gotten 3/4th of the way to max?
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Identity is, to the best of my knowledge, the highest ranked Gladiator at the moment (albeit an inactive one). Last I spoke to him he was nearing R11, about 22k points. There is also a screenshot of a R11 Gladiator from a couple of years ago. I don't know the specifics, but I hear he got that title from a bug of some kind - one day he logged on and was suddenly R11.
With most of the high-ranked gladiators inactive and TA gone, nobody will be maxing Gladiator in the foreseeable future, and if there's no change to the Gladiator title then I don't think anyone will max Gladiator when GW2 is released.
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Nov 13, 2009, 03:45 PM // 15:45
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#12
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Pre-Searing Cadet
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So, the highest ranked Glad players is BARELY over 1/2 way... nice.
CHANGE THIS ANET! NAOW
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Nov 13, 2009, 03:49 PM // 15:49
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#13
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Hall Hero
Join Date: Aug 2005
Profession: E/
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/notsigned
PvP titles AREN'T SUPPOSED to be maxed. They are supposed to go on forever so you can display prowless in PvP. If everybody could just max them overnight, then it would be as meaningless as max sunspear.
If you are playing PvP solely for the titles, you are doing it wrong.
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Nov 13, 2009, 03:58 PM // 15:58
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#14
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Dec 2005
Guild: Galactic President Superstar Mc [awsm]
Profession: E/
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Leave the title as it is and give me TA back. I'm not going to sit through 600 points in RA for my g9. Seriously.
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Nov 13, 2009, 04:42 PM // 16:42
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#15
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Academy Page
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: :>
Guild: notplayingGWatm[:o]
Profession: Mo/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eragon Zarroc
it is in no way similar to RR.
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Did I say so?
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Nov 13, 2009, 04:50 PM // 16:50
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#16
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Wisconsin
Guild: Our Gostly Solo Caps
Profession: Mo/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 0,o
...People seem to FORGET that Anet has a TEAM of devs who's SOLE purpose is to maintain the game and its balance. Of all the things they are REQUIRED to do, I would say this is one of them.
I'm tired of everybody saying, "THERE ARE BETTER THINGS FOR THEM TO DO!"
Like what? Add a Minipet Menagerie? Add more high end minis? Twiddle their thumbs with nothing to do because everything they thought about doing wasnt the BEST use of their time?
If everyone was so paranoid that they didn't accomplish anything because "there are better ways to spend your time" why the hell are you playing a video game, there are better ways for YOU to spend your time.
Anets better way to spend time right now is making guild wars 2, but we were JUST informed that it won't be completed for at least 1.5+ years.
So instead of complaining to not change the game, I suggest we find things TO change for the better so anet can keep their user base for the added time before gw2 comes out.
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First off your comparison between us and the dev team dealing with time is null. For one it is not our job to work on or play the game like it is theres.
Second off back in the day HA was much more popular than ta and ra and oh hey only 3 people to my knowledge have maxed the title.
Third off they already made the title easier to get when they changed it to getting points every 5 wins and not every 10 anything more would be like giving the title away.
fourth off, if glad was changed to be easier to get there would be alot of QQ threads like this about how it is easy to get glad points why not rework HA so we can get fame faster to.
STOP ALL THE QQing because the amount of time I see some of you spend on guru a day posting you could easily have 50+ glad points.
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Nov 13, 2009, 04:51 PM // 16:51
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#17
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Atra esternĂ ono thelduin
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Madness Incarnate
Guild: [Duo]
Profession: W/P
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tejive
Did I say so?
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You said that this suggestion would make glad title worthless, using what RR did to HB as an example, making players hate them in a similar fashion and for a similar reason. Am I wrong in interpreting what your poorly phrased statement meant?
Last edited by Eragon Zarroc; Nov 13, 2009 at 04:54 PM // 16:54..
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Nov 13, 2009, 05:27 PM // 17:27
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#18
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Canada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 0,o
Like what? Add a Minipet Menagerie? Add more high end minis? Twiddle their thumbs with nothing to do because everything they thought about doing wasnt the BEST use of their time?
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Implement seven heroes.
Go over the useless skills in the game and give them new functions.
Remove those henchmen from Guild Hall.
Kill shadow form.
There, four things for them to work on.
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Nov 13, 2009, 05:37 PM // 17:37
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#19
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Nov 2006
Profession: A/N
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Nov 13, 2009, 08:41 PM // 20:41
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#20
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Kansas
Guild: Righteous Anarchy [RA]
Profession: D/Me
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I don’t necessarily agree. I’m almost G8 and the only glad points I’ve gotten from TA are ones that I got by going in through RA. I know quite a few of the regulars that have worked to a respectable G rank entirely from RA and they are generally better players than the higher ranked people that got it by farming TA with goth-spike or whatever the flavor of the day happens to be. Gladiator track is harder to move up than Hero track is (I think the accepted equivalent is G3 = R5 G8 = R12). I think that max PvP titles should be extremely hard to achieve. If anything Hero track should be re-worked to make it more difficult. I also like the decision to change the 25th win from 4 to 9 when TA went away.
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