Curse

Kook~NBK~ · Feb 19, 2010, 04:12 PM // 16:12

/not signed.

1. Rank discrimination is what killed HA in the first place. (No newbies allowed!) The same thng is happening to the Codex Arena.

2. There's only one title worthy of being displayed (when title effects aren't in play) and that is "SLAYER OF ALL" Muuuahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

3. This suggestion provides nothing that would affect game-play in a positive manner.

DigitalFear · Feb 19, 2010, 04:34 PM // 16:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeHoMaR

it's just anti-title people invading my thread.

Aww, can't take some criticism?
There are many reasons to not implement this, most of them are already covered by others. PvE abuse, cluttered up screen, even MORE PvP rank discrimination(Which is already pretty sad) etc. etc.

I am -not- an anti-title person by the way, it's just an illogical idea for the reasons above (and others stated).

NeHoMaR · Feb 19, 2010, 07:11 PM // 19:11

Come on! of course only anti-title people are not signing this, because all the "reasons" have no sense at all, as I said. Let's try to be more specific:

PvE abuse? well, I don't really care about that, that's not my suggection, they can just make the first title to be the only one with the bonus.

Cluttered up screen? What the hell? ONLY the nicknames do that, the titles don't increase it.

PvP rank discrimination? come on! that already exist! and it has a lot of sense BTW, more rank normally means you know more the game; playing with people with lower rank will normally end in a big failure, sad but true.

Titles easy to change? Oh! yeah. Do you play HA? in that place you are judged faster than your fingers.

E-Peen? well, that's a matter of taste, if you don't like that, you don't show title at all so this don't affect you, if you like it, this suggestion will make you happy.

MagmaRed · Feb 19, 2010, 07:34 PM // 19:34

Sad thing is, nobody has figured out yet that he is trolling. Even if he wasn't with the original post, he is now. I vote for the mods to close this, as he hasn't actually argued his case, just messed with the people who argued effectively against it.

NeHoMaR · Feb 19, 2010, 07:58 PM // 19:58

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Originally Posted by MagmaRed

Sad thing is, nobody has figured out yet that he is trolling. Even if he wasn't with the original post, he is now. I vote for the mods to close this, as he hasn't actually argued his case, just messed with the people who argued effectively against it.

My point is clearly explained in the very first sentence of this thread:

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeHoMaR

My idea is quickly entering better teams in PvP (even with higher rank than mine) by showing another titles.

Because I know (by experience) some people let you enter a team (in HA) even if you rank is not enough; if you have another good PvP titles (Gladiator, Champion), so, if you are able to show all that PvP titles at the same time, team leaders will be getting you more quickly in the team. In HA is a matter of seconds the decision to kick or accept one player in a team.

The Drunkard · Feb 19, 2010, 08:24 PM // 20:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeHoMaR

PvP rank discrimination? come on! that already exist! and it has a lot of sense BTW, more rank normally means you know more the game; playing with people with lower rank will normally end in a big failure, sad but true.

No, it doesn't. Having a higher rank means one of two things: You've spent a lot of time in that area or you bought that account. Spending more time in an area does not mean you have more experience. What will get you into groups faster is a positive attitude and motivation for learning, not flashing some stupid title.

Kook~NBK~ · Feb 19, 2010, 08:53 PM // 20:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeHoMaR

Come on! of course only anti-title people are not signing this,

I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I love the existing titles. I'm title huntin' fool! Got most of 'em as a matter of fact. The reasons I gave (well #1 & #3 anyway - #2 was kinda a joke) are perfectly valid points along with the reasons that others have given. So do yourself a favor and accept the fact that your suggestion isn't a popular one.

DigitalFear · Feb 19, 2010, 10:31 PM // 22:31

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Originally Posted by The Drunkard

No, it doesn't. Having a higher rank means one of two things: You've spent a lot of time in that area or you bought that account. Spending more time in an area does not mean you have more experience. What will get you into groups faster is a positive attitude and motivation for learning, not flashing some stupid title.

Now if only the -other- players would realize this...

And NeHoMar, you can also -tell- people you have xx glad/champ/whatever rank. Hell, even whisper them before joining the pug. That has always worked for me.

UnChosen · Feb 20, 2010, 10:58 AM // 10:58

PvE: YES! 100% /Signed
PvP: /Not Signed

PvE desperately need something to make up for the ridiculous grind for something that literally have 0 benefit. Seriously thousands of hours for a little box of text that doesn't even show up unless someone is bored enough to mouse over your name, or you have to be a total a**hole and announce it yourself....wtf?! At the rate they're making PvE more and more pug/casual unfriendly they can at least give a bit more cosmetic benefit. However, I rather have the title linked to an emote similar to the CE hand aura rather than just have more of them that STILL won't be seen anyways.

As for PvP, just ONE title already give a near unsurmountable advantage. A higher rank title already instantly guarantees easy grouping and even faster point earning...no need for more of them.

Yawgmoth · Feb 20, 2010, 02:31 PM // 14:31

I'm not against titles, I do have many good titles myself but I really don't like this idea. This is just too much and doesn't look any cool. Even other mmos that have like 10x or 20x more titles than GW allow showing only one - that was always the point of having a title.

And most imprtantly, besides how riddic it looks, is the fact it isn't actually any improvement of the game!

Talking about titles and improvements, in a game that's practically title-based a much better and actually useful thing would be some UI/HUD improvements to allow easy tracking of your titles. Searching through 40+ titles in the hero panel with no sorting options and the least needed titles cluttering the top of the list is a major pain. And wouldn't it be great to have at least one title progress bar to be always visible as a part of the HUD, like instead of the absolutely useless Experience bar? That would be actual title related game improvements.

AmbientMelody · Feb 20, 2010, 04:02 PM // 16:02

Titles and rank discrimination are what fuels elitism and hostile attitudes and has absolutely NOTHING to do with competitive environment for higher rank players (unless the entire point of being highly ranked and skilled is owning hopeless noobs to farm fame? serves you well).

Want to have PvP titles, Anet? Sure, go ahead! Just create different districts and separate matches for different rank ranges and don't make random noobs face those r13+ spikes every day. Btw, do something about smurfing and syncing.

Dynamic account HA/SD rank would help, too, so people after a break are less likely to get thrown in the deep water, having no idea of current meta and in urgent need to hone their skills to competitive level again.

Oh wait, what? Did you just say owning helpless noobs is fun? Or, maybe you mean that noobs will learn more by being beaten by top players? I'm inclined to disagree.

In PvP you learn everything (even the basics) by winning and getting defeated by other players ... but you learn the most if they are on your or slightly higher level.

So to say, get over your elitism and understand that every player has the same right to enter a guild war or heroes ascent match and actually have fun and win there, without being forced to play lame builds. Not just you, bunch of elitist people. Guess what, everyone has the right to play a balanced team versus closely-matched people even if he is a hopeless noob. You were a one once, too.

What happened to PUGs? Get a guild or die? What? I thought only 'guild war' format originally was restricted in this way. Higher level competitive play will still be based around the guilds or enormous friend lists anyway. Just let the casuals have some fun, okay?

/notsigned

My proposal, pvp crowd:

Be less pathetic.

/signed

PS. Stop with 'get a guild/friends' bullshit. Most casuals HAVE NO TIME/ABILITY/COMMITMENT to take part in dedicated pvp guild, no matter it's rank. That's the point of being casual, you play the game from time to time, when you have the time, in a non-schedule manner.

Seems like some of you easily forget what it takes for each member of 8-man pvp team to attend the set schedules and keep up with the rest in terms of own skills. Just ask yourselves how many and how often pvp guilds disband for the simple reason of deadly commitment.

HA/SD/GVG aren't just for all-around-the-clock 18+ gamers which don't have to sleep in the night and enjoy talking/listening to crap over headset. Anet, learn your lessons. 'Big AB' in form of world wars in GW2 isn't your answer. Make all forms of pvp accessible for everyone.

Would be really nice if 'guild ranking' actually worked for GVG, too.

Oh btw, rant over.

Go cry me a river and flame, what noob I am or whatever. You just prove all of my points that way.

PS2. Get a ****ing balls to admit the truth.