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Dagoth Umbra · Feb 23, 2010, 02:40 AM // 02:40

I just learned that PVP rewards are not unlocked account-wide! But if you want fancy weapons or armor, you have to unlock 50 basic pieces! So you will have to spend hard earned TRPs on armor pieces you do not want, and then delete them when you want to get the weapon or armor set you do want! How is it that players are not up in arms over this? If Anet refuses to make the weapons and armor unlock account-wide, then at the VERY least, the requirement that one unlock a certain number of items before getting fancy or exotic items should be removed. The 50 TRPs given out for the Xunlai Tournament thingy are account-based, meaning you cannot get 50 TRPs for each character you have, but the rewards are not! Could I get some /signed for this to be changed? (not the Xunlai tournament thingy [although that would be nice], but PVP rewards not being account-based)

On a related note, could anyone tell me how long each of the Bonus Map Pack missions take? If they take as long as I suspect that they would, then I think that the system they have now where you can only find the bonus objectives once per account needs to be removed. There are just WAY too many of the BMP weapons and shields I want to only be able to get 1 weapon a run (+4 to be distributed among characters, but all 4 of those would be used up by my warrior). I think that a character should be able to get a book for beating a mission as well as 1 for each of the objectives each time the characters does the mission, so that a character could more quickly get all the weapons desired. I have 10 characters, so if the system stays the way it is...

And customization should be account-based, not character-based

X Ghoul · Feb 23, 2010, 03:03 AM // 03:03

I have not been bothered with this since if you play a specific role constantly there is no point to waste the rp's, but instead just make a pve char and unlock all skills and get any weapon you like. The only plus from the pvp armor is just the armor pieces not head pieces since you cannot change the main attribute on head pieces even at that, it is not a big deal. /notsigned

jonnieboi05 · Feb 23, 2010, 03:39 AM // 03:39

It's been the same for the last 2-3 years (actually... the points were recently decreased for how many you need) and I see no reason to bring such a meaningless "issue" up now.

TBH I know a few people who have FoW armor on a PvP character and they never complained about it being too much or anything at all (and this was before the points needed was reduced).

Darth The Xx · Feb 23, 2010, 04:00 AM // 04:00

The requirement no longer exists, you can buy whatever PvP weapons you want, its been like this for about the past 3-4 months.

edit: just read the entire OPs post, get over it an work for your stuff like everyone else. BMP Missions are hardly difficult. Your post is a whole lot of "i want .... i want .... with minimal effort"

Luminarus · Feb 23, 2010, 04:00 AM // 04:00

BMP weapons are FREE. As in you get them guaranteed from beating the mission. FURTHERMORE you have a choice. In my opinion it would be better if a chest opened when u beat the mission and got one dropped randomly. However people would QQ about that more, so this is a better method. Free, cool skins, for playing the game, guaranteed. They're fine

jonnieboi05 · Feb 23, 2010, 04:17 AM // 04:17

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Originally Posted by Dagoth Umbra

And customization should be account-based, not character-based

Disagree. A 12'' Magnum condom can not properly fit a man whom is not "blessed". So why should customized weapons be any different?

Zahr Dalsk · Feb 23, 2010, 04:54 AM // 04:54

Probably because all that effort makes it easier to just give your PvE character the appropriate equipment and then you can use whatever skin you wanted.

KPEATOP · Feb 23, 2010, 05:31 AM // 05:31

Bonus missions are easy to complete:
Gwen mission is done under 8 minutes
Togo mission is done under 10 minutes
Turai mission is done under 10 minutes
Saul mission is hard and you`ll have to play round 20 minutes to complete.

/notsigned

There is a difference between normal armor and ascended armor in PvP - the first one costs 10k total and the second one 100k. They should keep this difference in PvP if they want us to enjoy the hard earned parts. If they change it you`ll see tons of Obsidian male warriors or Obsidian,Vabbian,Grotto female warrior using Tormented Axe and Tormented shield.

Shriketalon · Feb 23, 2010, 05:55 AM // 05:55

So, basically, you want someone to unlock an exotic weapon with only a single day's worth of points? Sorry, you have to earn it, and that means working your way up.

Before you call that unfair, keep in mind that...

1) You are guaranteed to get that weapon if you keep earning points. PvE players have to rely on luck.

2) You still get more skins then PvE. A bunch of them, like the Silver Dragon Cane and the Kournan sword were added to Tolkano, but not to PvE itself.

Dagoth Umbra · Feb 23, 2010, 06:01 AM // 06:01

I think you all completely missed my points.

A) I was saying that PVP rewards should be unlocked for your account. My secondary point was that if Anet would not do that, then they should make it so that you could get whatever weapon you want without unlocking 50 basic items, since you will have to delete those items once you are ready to get fancy armor (particularly armor, since you can't do the hero trick with armor).

Darth the Xx, I just doubled checked, and you are wrong. Tolkano still says that in order to get a fancy weapon or armor, you have to have 50 basic weapons or armor unlocked.

Thank you KPEATOP for explaining how long the missions are. I was imagining that the BMP missions would be 30 minutes in length, so that is a little better, however, with 10 character doing them multiple times, that still adds up to a lot of hours.

JonnieBoi05... this is a GAME, it does not have to be realistic, nor is it realistic, since I don't need a condom to play this game like I would to play with a woman

IronSheik · Feb 23, 2010, 06:23 AM // 06:23

Make customizations account wide, thx.

And condoms=/=weapons

That's like saying Eles can't use bows, what blasphemy.

Dei Gracia · Feb 23, 2010, 07:21 AM // 07:21

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Originally Posted by KPEATOP

If they change it you`ll see tons of Obsidian male warriors or Obsidian,Vabbian,Grotto female warrior using Tormented Axe and Tormented shield.

like there already isn't?

also the rp system is fine... if you cant get enough for armor/weps with rp's quit bitching and go make a pve nough said

*lemming* · Feb 23, 2010, 10:28 AM // 10:28

The PvP reward system does not exist so that you can get stuff from anet for free.

snowman relic · Feb 23, 2010, 11:52 AM // 11:52

I may be wrong but is the TRP going away as soon as the 50 points are spent? becasue if im right theirs no point spend your points and move on plz.

KPEATOP · Feb 23, 2010, 01:13 PM // 13:13

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Originally Posted by Dei Gracia

like there already isn't?

also the rp system is fine... if you cant get enough for armor/weps with rp's quit bitching and go make a pve nough said

True True

Btw i thought that the whole TRP system is account based. You have to unlock some basic weapons before you have the chance to unlock a fancy weapon. But imagine that you unlock all those things with your warrior and he gets the chance to have his first fancy weapon. Now you create a monk - i have always thought that he will have the chance to have his fancy weapon, without the need to unlock 20/50 or i don`t know how many basic weapons. Is this correct, or am i wrong?

AmbientMelody · Feb 23, 2010, 02:37 PM // 14:37

Well, certainly they could improve the PvP rewards, BMP isn't an issue.

Ideally skins would be unlocked just like skills or item mods, once you unlocked something, you reserve the right for it forever, without need to keep the original item.

There could be a pop-up window asking you what skin to use (default or another one), in case of default going straight for item statistics, in case of not default, another window sorting the skins by type (basic, fancy, exotic) and allowing to choose the individual one of choice. Locked skins would be grayed out and/or without a tick box.

Perhaps the basics skins could be unlocked with the balthazar faction alone, too - leaving the better ones as for tournament points and zaishen coins alone (or just tournament points for some skins, so the skins remain more unique).

NoConnection · Feb 23, 2010, 03:11 PM // 15:11

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Originally Posted by KPEATOP

But imagine that you unlock all those things with your warrior and he gets the chance to have his first fancy weapon. Now you create a monk - i have always thought that he will have the chance to have his fancy weapon

Mhm. Once u unlock fancy weapons to any of your pvp charracters (war for example) u can create a new one (lets say ele) and still buy him fancy weapons without the need to unlock them from the start.

Id like for them to add black and white dyes to pvp armors or when u apply black dyes from pve when you change your armor mod the black dye to stay, and id like them to add weapon skins that arent introduced in the pvp system i.e. Eaglecrest axe, Obsidian Edge, Emerald Blade, Eternal Blade and so on

/not signed
ps: tribal axe, bo staves, long swords (all pvp basics, all cost 6 reward points each) rock ass
pps: stop bitching they lowered the requirements for reward points by almost half, before it 1 basic was 10 points now its 6, 20->12, 200->120 and so on

Dagoth Umbra · Feb 23, 2010, 06:58 PM // 18:58

I was not bitching about the cost, for crying out loud you people don't know how to read for comprehension! I am saying, PVP rewards should be UNLOCKABLE FOR YOUR FREAKING ACCOUNT! The cost for each reward is fine as is.

What the hell is it with people who want this game to be as time-consuming and frustrating as possible? Seriously, explain to me how any of my suggestions harm you or your playing experience? Is it just that you have already done the grind for everything you wanted and now you don't want people to have an easier time than you did? Go play WoW if you want to grind away your life.

Del · Feb 23, 2010, 07:09 PM // 19:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagoth Umbra

I was not bitching about the cost, for crying out loud you people don't know how to read for comprehension! I am saying, PVP rewards should be UNLOCKABLE FOR YOUR FREAKING ACCOUNT! The cost for each reward is fine as is.

What the hell is it with people who want this game to be as time-consuming and frustrating as possible? Seriously, explain to me how any of my suggestions harm you or your playing experience? Is it just that you have already done the grind for everything you wanted and now you don't want people to have an easier time than you did? Go play WoW if you want to grind away your life.

Calm down brah, gw isn't serious business.

NoConnection · Feb 23, 2010, 07:28 PM // 19:28

when the cost is fine as it is why dont u just buy 2/3/how much u want pvp obsidian sets? by your logic if i buy obsidian set in pve i should get it on all of my charracters...