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Sir Mad · Oct 05, 2006, 04:33 PM // 16:33

Note: to the people /signing for PvE max titles:

Don't look at all PvE titles the same way. Having an emote for the first tier of explaring would be too much, indeed. However, having to transfer 10M factions to his alliance (aka: 25,000,000 jade arena runs for luxons for example) or having opened (what's the max tier?) 10k chests etc is WAY too much.

IMO, if there are PvE titles (and I still haven't decided if it's a good idea or not), you should have the following tier to do /bambi:

Cartographer: 100%
Protector: no /bambi
KOBD: 1st tier of course
Ally of..: 1st tier (heck transfering 250K factions is much longer than IWAYing his 180 fames)
Drunkard: 1st tier (yeah this is a stupid title - which is why I like it btw - but 1K is already a lot)
Wisdom and treasure: 2nd or 3rd tier (100 chests/golds is a joke)
Skill Hunter: 2nd tier

oHcHeese · Oct 05, 2006, 04:55 PM // 16:55

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Originally Posted by master_of_puppets

/signed for ONLY the PVP titles. Tbh PvE'ers dont deserve emotes...

make one for gladiator, champion, and maybe ~ of Kurzick/Luxon

That's total bullshit ! why would pve'ers not deserve an emote ? Some pve titles deserve an emote, as ppl work very hard to get it and the title itself isn't very impressive !

/signed, if there are some pve titles too !

TheBaron82 · Oct 05, 2006, 04:56 PM // 16:56

Emote for Champion (every 3 rank like Heroes), Gladiator (every 3 rank like heroes), Allegiance title (kurz/lux) probably also every 3 rank, for pver have emote for Titles Maxed (Kind of a big deal etc.) and perhaps emote for the new sunspear title starting from Legend.

Sword · Oct 05, 2006, 05:12 PM // 17:12

defintaly a big
/not signed

Winx.ZN · Oct 05, 2006, 05:25 PM // 17:25

Just because SOME people choose to iWAY to 180 fame doesnt mean we all did. Getting 180 fame the "right" way takes an insane amount of time. Noone wants you in their pug because you are unranked so people end up LFG in HA for HOURS, you make unranked pugs and get rolled match after match after match. Once you are past r6 or so, getting 180 fame is easy, but thats because you play with people who are generally decent now. Getting there however, is a different story.
Its too bad some people farm fame, but leave the fame emotes where they are. Dont cross them into pve.
I thought you got those emotes (and your little halo) for getting the attention of the Gods... earning fame (people in pve dont recognize each other as easily as people who pvp imo. Might have something to do with the fact that you remember who killed you more easily).

On that note :
3rd Rank Kurzick/Luxon or max title could get some sort of emote.
3rd Tier Glad titles and every 3 ranks.
3rd Tier Championship titles and every 3 ranks.
Kind of A Big Deal is the only PvE title that takes more than a little effort to gain.
/signed for above only

Any other incredibly easy PvE title does NOT deserve an emote. Giving everything an emote will make emotes not special.

Franco · Oct 05, 2006, 06:18 PM // 18:18

Lets give luxon emotes please

. Maybe more people will start joining and giving faction to their guild, instead of just those people that farm jade and amber

/signed again xD

Clobimon · Oct 05, 2006, 06:20 PM // 18:20

Well, it takes a person that loves PvP and spends most of his/her time doing it to suggest that any additional emotes be only for PvP oriented titles. There is a great number of the community that rarely, if ever, participates in the PvP side of GW. Dare I say a good majority? I dare. However, I'm with the others that have said not every tier of every title should have an emote. My main has both GM Carts and Protectors. I'm working on others but it will be some time before I hit KoaBD. Even then, the title alone doesn't do it justice. In the meantime, achieving those four max tiers took time and dedication and it's not quite right to say that doing so was easier or is less meaningful than attaining rank 3 even. They are still achievements and anyone that's finally reached 100% of a map knows how good it feels to finally get there. I'd be all for a more visual way to show maxed titles, but less obtrusive to keep outposts and such "clean." I would say KoaBD deserves an emote on par with rank emotes though - even if I would never flash it because it feels boastful to me. Perhaps an emote for any maxed title, or possibly after two, four, six, etc., could be something like glowing armor (think bosses) for ten seconds. Heck, I'd even go for medal that hangs around the characters neck. :P In all honesty, I have yet to run into anyone in PvE that has looked at titles for selecting people when forming parties. Normally nobody even mentions them. On occassion I've heard or said, "grats on (title)," but that's it.

Epinephrine · Oct 05, 2006, 06:29 PM // 18:29

To anyone complaining about the idea:

What makes HA so special that it gets emotes?

I PvP all the time, every time I'm online. I hate HA, always have. I play GvG, TA, RA, even AB.

Why on earth wouldn't other forms of PvP get recognition. Winning your 500th GvG? 1000th? These actually are milestones too you know.

Why not give them out for PvE, for maxed titles? I agree that protector is ludicrously easy, but to anyone saying that cartography is easy, do you have cartography titles? Takes a lot of time, more than it takes to earn a deer in HA. Bambi is easy to get if you want it, cartography takes more work. Heck, with a good group people earn their bambi on the HA weekend ALONE. Try getting a cartographer title in three days. I've only played in HA a few times, maybe 10 runs total. I've won HoH 5 times, gotten two sigils. It's not hard to get bambi. Grandmaster is WAY more work.

To the PvE players who bash PvP: Grow up.

To the PvP players who bash PvE: Grow up.

Both are fun, both have worthy pursuits, and it won't hurt anyone to have new emotes.

I figure for cartography for example it could have levels too - for each land you have Grandmaster on you get a rank in it - thus a character with Tyrian, Canthan AND Elonian titles would have the rank 3 emote for cartography.

Emotes are fun, and shouldn't be restricted to people who happen to enjoy HA. HA is the least fun form of PvP in the game - I guess maybe they needed emotes to keep people playing it, but I think that anything that adds fun to the game is worth adding.

Clobimon · Oct 05, 2006, 06:59 PM // 18:59

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Epinephrine
...I think that anything that adds fun to the game is worth adding.

good statement! More 'stuff' is always cool.

master_of_puppets · Oct 05, 2006, 07:13 PM // 19:13

I know HA is lame and getting fame is grind, but its still harder than anything in PvE.

Protector's : wow so you beat all the missions which you can just AFK through or do alone with 7 henchies

Cartographer : ok so you were bored and spent your time running around with your w/mo runner or 55monk getting the whole map, with random brainless NPC's who tried to stop you

Treasure Hunter : because opening chests takes skill

Skill Hunter : 55 for exp, then buy a load of cap sigs and kill bosses, any more to it?

Wisdom : You either play a lot or are very lucky

daraaksii · Oct 05, 2006, 07:17 PM // 19:17

another PvE topic. /notsigned, emotes for pvp. pls.

Sir Mad · Oct 05, 2006, 07:29 PM // 19:29

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Originally Posted by Winx.ZN

Just because SOME people choose to iWAY to 180 fame doesnt mean we all did. Getting 180 fame the "right" way takes an insane amount of time. Noone wants you in their pug because you are unranked so people end up LFG in HA for HOURS, you make unranked pugs and get rolled match after match after match. Once you are past r6 or so, getting 180 fame is easy, but thats because you play with people who are generally decent now. Getting there however, is a different story.
Its too bad some people farm fame, but leave the fame emotes where they are. Dont cross them into pve.
I thought you got those emotes (and your little halo) for getting the attention of the Gods... earning fame (people in pve dont recognize each other as easily as people who pvp imo. Might have something to do with the fact that you remember who killed you more easily).

On that note :
3rd Rank Kurzick/Luxon or max title could get some sort of emote.
3rd Tier Glad titles and every 3 ranks.
3rd Tier Championship titles and every 3 ranks.
Kind of A Big Deal is the only PvE title that takes more than a little effort to gain.
/signed for above only

Any other incredibly easy PvE title does NOT deserve an emote. Giving everything an emote will make emotes not special.

I mentioned something about IWAYing his bambi in my last post - I don't know if your refering to that. If you are: I never said everybody who has r3 (or even the majority of them) IWAYed it, but I definitely tried to compare the time spent to earn PvE titles with the hero title track. And no even if you don't want to IWAY your rank 3, it doesn't take that long: it little bit more than a "double your fame" week-end I'd say

Now about the titles you mentioned: it took me one month farming factions everyday to get the friend of the luxons title. The 3rd tier is insane, and takes MUCH more time than getting r3. a r3 PvPer is common, a factions farmer with the 3rd tier is really uncommon. My alliance holded cavalon during one month and a half - there was only one guy in it I think with the 3rd tier.

Concerning the glad and champion titles (especially champion actually): same comment: compare them to the hero title track, and you'll see it's MUCH harder to have the 3rd tier of champion than getting 180 fame.

Concerning what you've said about KOBD: heck, I hope you have 100% Tyria and Cantha explored to say that

Quote:

Cartographer : ok so you were bored and spent your time running around with your w/mo runner or 55monk getting the whole map, with random brainless NPC's who tried to stop you

Quoted for... erm... ignorance (and arrogance I must add).

Clobimon · Oct 05, 2006, 07:38 PM // 19:38

/sigh

Why is there a desire to degrade everything that others do? If you spend all of your time doing PvP why do you care what PvE players can gain? And vice versa I might add. I believe the thread is just suggesting emotes for more than one title track. Considering that there are two or three people playing GW that don't care for PvP, their goals and achievements differ and are PvE based. Why is a little 'bling' for them have to be seen as a bad or unearned thing?

B Ephekt · Oct 05, 2006, 07:40 PM // 19:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by master_of_puppets

I know HA is lame and getting fame is grind, but its still harder than anything in PvE.

Protector's : wow so you beat all the missions which you can just AFK through or do alone with 7 henchies

Cartographer : ok so you were bored and spent your time running around with your w/mo runner or 55monk getting the whole map, with random brainless NPC's who tried to stop you

Treasure Hunter : because opening chests takes skill

Skill Hunter : 55 for exp, then buy a load of cap sigs and kill bosses, any more to it?

Wisdom : You either play a lot or are very lucky

I agree with pretty much everything except HA being lame or a grind.

That said, I do think the Gladiator and Champion title tracks should have emotes every three ranks similar to Tombs rank, albeit emotes with different graphics (ie. no deer, wolf, tiger like fame rank).

As for pve, I don't think the third tier of Allied Faction titles or KOaBD titles receiving emotes would be a bad idea either, but imo not every title track in the game deserves an emote. There are a lot of pve titles out there that are acquired simply by playing the game or mindlessly farming/grinding certain things - these should not receive emotes. PvP should have emotes as a sign of a milestone of experience or success, pve titles are too plentiful and easy to acquire for every one to receive an emote.

Dougal Kronik · Oct 05, 2006, 07:52 PM // 19:52

Some really ignorant posters who definitely only play one side of the game. I feel sorry for you, really I do.

Adding more to Guild Wars is always a good thing. Don't feel lessened because you don't PvE and they get an emote, be proud of your accomplishments, and let them be proud of theirs.

Try getting titles in both PvP and PvE before you start bashing the other on "grind", "lame", or "brainless NPC's".

zamial · Oct 05, 2006, 08:00 PM // 20:00

/signed with some changes

they shouldnt be big and glowing anything could you imagine droks or la full of people emoting flashy things.....grrr that would be irritating.

maybe if you have a title maxed the char could do somthing like "act drunk" without being drunk as an example.....

if you where say protector of a land you could hold the liches/shiros head ....for a few seconds

ect ect

i dont want to see a huge emote that glows in pve that almost anyone can get....but a lil something would be cool.

bamm bamm bamm · Oct 05, 2006, 09:21 PM // 21:21

I think it would work better as a symbol above the head like skill symbols (heal sig/PS/you-get-the-idea) but in town. Everyone flashing a huge yellow object would get rather annoying, yes.

B Ephekt · Oct 05, 2006, 10:28 PM // 22:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dougal Kronik

Some really ignorant posters who definitely only play one side of the game. I feel sorry for you, really I do.

Why would you feel sorry for people who play the part of the game they enjoy? That seems a bit silly and petty to me.

Quote:

Try getting titles in both PvP and PvE before you start bashing the other on "grind", "lame", or "brainless NPC's".

I'm pretty sure most pvpers do some pve, or at least have in the past. Especially since most people move on to pvp after doing pve for a while.

comonnow · Oct 05, 2006, 11:10 PM // 23:10

/not signed

I could deal with getting titles for Champ and Glad but thats it.

The point of the emotes is for being a HERO and taking HoH, and gaining the favor of the gods (for you PvE players who bash on us PvP players). So in a way its a reward for doing a little roleplaying.

TA=kill people
GvG=kill people
AB=huge joke, lower form of PvP than RA imo, but that isnt the point of the thread.

These other pvp titles dont involve being heros, its just fighting other people. This is why i dont think they have emotes.

Now I do a lot of PvP and a little PvE, and PvE players DO NOT deserve emotes at all... its just that simple. To get an emote (even tho i agree r3 is quite easy to get) it takes time and SKILL. PvE does NOT take skill... dont try to argue the point either cause i know. It just takes a lot of time, if you want to waste time runing around a map to get ur cartographer title, good for you and props for doing it, cause i dont have the patience for it, but, it does not take SKILL it just takes time and the right build. You dont have to play against humans, who can improvise, fake spike, call different tactics, run different build combinations etc... u fight NPCs, things who do the same thing every time you encounter them. So, once again, PvE is only grind, not skill thus does not deserve titles, because anyone can do all missions and run around the map, or rage quit out of groups before they die etc, but not everyone can be a good PvPer.

once again /not signed

in fact i will be extremely mad if they give titles to PvE players... thats just stupid.

Aki Soyokaze · Oct 05, 2006, 11:48 PM // 23:48

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Originally Posted by comonnow

PvE does NOT take skill... dont try to argue the point either cause i know

And arguably some could say PvP is just as simple.

But I would be inclined to agree with you that PvE can take less skill than PvP. However, heros already get emotes and a title and if you add glad and champ to that it seems a little unfair; maybe they should only get one or the other, not both.

If this were the case then I think it would be fair that PvE earned 'titles' stay titles and not titles + emotes.