Curse

Dobermann · May 23, 2010, 08:15 AM // 08:15

UW: 4 W/A backbreakers
Fetid: 4 W/A Backbreakers
Burial: 4 W/A Backbreakers

Same old shit.

I propose this: "Elite Hammer Attack. If Backbreaker hits, you strike for +1...16...20 damage and your target is knocked down. If you have 8 Strength or higher, this knockdown lasts 4 seconds. All non hammer attack skills are disabled for 4 seconds"

pinkeyflower · May 23, 2010, 09:10 AM // 09:10

Maybe do that or make Twisting Fangs 1 sec DW at 0 crits so by the time they finish the chain you DW will have gone.

Dobermann · May 23, 2010, 09:46 AM // 09:46

True, but my idea totally stops the lameness... Yours allows it to continue.

Terrible Surgeon · May 23, 2010, 09:47 AM // 09:47

A cry thread...no joke. How about anet nerf crip anguish or the other many Op mes skills now plaguing the arenas. Seriously, if BB is all you have to worry about you aren't paying attention.
GW is a total joke now (more than ever) in pvp areas and totally over run by the caster classes. Melee classes have taken a back seat and are at the whim and mercy of a "good monk" being present.
On top of this, you are saying nerf BB more...what a joke.

If it isn't 4 BB warriors its going to be 4 ele, 4 mesmers (soon to come) or w/e. Someone always has a complaint, in this case i think it is a unnecessary one and on top of that totally unjustified. If you see 4 mesmers what will you do? Complain back here again? Probably knowing your complaining here now. How about make a counter to the thing bothering you instead of crying for a nerf? I mean GW does allow for creativity in build creation, why not use it for gods sake?!?!?!

/notsigned

Bristlebane · May 23, 2010, 10:36 AM // 10:36

How about counter with... a mesmer!

Gift3d · May 23, 2010, 11:47 AM // 11:47

man, that build's weak. if you're running a balanced build, and not some lame gimmicky crap, there are so many ways to counter it. i don't know how you are losing to it. what are you running, and how in the world are you managing to lose to it? rather than agree or disagree with your ridiculous nerf idea, i'm willing to help you be a better player so you don't give lamers like that any more free fame. feel free to pm me.

pinkeyflower · May 23, 2010, 03:09 PM // 15:09

Actually, 3 BB Sway is actually quite strong and can roll many balanced teams, even ones that are organised.

@OP: Maybe attack skills instead? I still want my IAS. Anyway without TF they're not that strong.

William C Wallace · May 23, 2010, 03:16 PM // 15:16

BB Sway is lame and anyone who says otherwise is probably running it.

The truth is the only thing you can do is get on spirit control and pray you have a good backline.

Anet however encourages these gimmicks so I wouldn't expect it to be changed for a good while (if ever).

dare49devil · May 23, 2010, 07:02 PM // 19:02

-What HA are you playing where you see 4 w/a bb warriors???

Amaurosis · May 23, 2010, 07:54 PM // 19:54

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Originally Posted by Bristlebane

How about counter with... a mesmer!

Complicate would seem useful against a 4 man W/A to some extent

MagmaRed · May 23, 2010, 08:02 PM // 20:02

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Originally Posted by Amaurosis

Complicate would seem useful against a 4 man W/A to some extent

Soothing Images, Sympathetic Visage, Ancestors Visage. W/A has no hex removal, and I'm not sure a BB W/A could squeeze in an enchantment removal skill.

IrishX · May 23, 2010, 09:17 PM // 21:17

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Originally Posted by MagmaRed

Soothing Images, Sympathetic Visage, Ancestors Visage. W/A has no hex removal, and I'm not sure a BB W/A could squeeze in an enchantment removal skill.

...I'm pretty sure they would have hex removal somewhere on the other 4 characters.

I haven't played against it, since I don't Tombs anymore, but it doesn't sound difficult to beat. Put an interupt on one or two, and tell your monks to use guardian and stability well. If you have a rit, yell at it to not suck with warding.

Fahhhh · May 23, 2010, 09:31 PM // 21:31

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Originally Posted by MagmaRed

Soothing Images, Sympathetic Visage, Ancestors Visage. W/A has no hex removal, and I'm not sure a BB W/A could squeeze in an enchantment removal skill.

Expel Hexes Expel Hexes Expel Hexes

Bristlebane · May 24, 2010, 09:33 AM // 09:33

Balanced Stance perhaps?

Terrible Surgeon · May 26, 2010, 01:27 AM // 01:27

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Originally Posted by Bristlebane

Balanced Stance perhaps?

yeah totally....AoS, balanced, Brace yourself are all easy to use...

Fahhhh · May 26, 2010, 04:10 AM // 04:10

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Originally Posted by Terrible Surgeon

yeah totally....AoS, balanced, Brace yourself are all easy to use...

Well first off AoS is stripped or runs out stupid quick due to Tranquility. Second I really think you don't understand. There are 4 backbreaker warriors shit gets KD'd every 10 seconds per warrior pretty much. Brace Yourself will stop one kd for one warrior plus most of the time it'll be on your prot/relic runner so the rest of your party is boned. You still have three more running around wailing willy nilly on your squishies. As for balanced stance barely any professions can sacrifice their secondary to run it.

TLDR: Shits OP

Bristlebane · May 26, 2010, 05:15 AM // 05:15

Ward of Stability?
The BB wars can't get inside the ward as they'd be useless there. And they'd be killed on distance if they don't.

Grasping Earth with some blindness?
Snare and kite, have a laugh at the blind backbreakers

IrishX · May 26, 2010, 05:21 AM // 05:21

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Originally Posted by Fahhhh

Well first off AoS is stripped or runs out stupid quick due to Tranquility. Second I really think you don't understand. There are 4 backbreaker warriors shit gets KD'd every 10 seconds per warrior pretty much. Brace Yourself will stop one kd for one warrior plus most of the time it'll be on your prot/relic runner so the rest of your party is boned. You still have three more running around wailing willy nilly on your squishies. As for balanced stance barely any professions can sacrifice their secondary to run it.

TLDR: Shits OP

Doesn't everyone run a rit, PD, and ranger these days? Tell your rit to count adren and use warding. Hammer attacks are easy to reflex even on your off-server, and are easily noticable with the giant green tail.

Fahhhh · May 26, 2010, 05:28 AM // 05:28

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Originally Posted by IrishX

Doesn't everyone run a rit, PD, and ranger these days? Tell your rit to count adren and use warding. Hammer attacks are easy to reflex even on your off-server, and are easily noticable with the giant green tail.

It's funny cuz you think I don't know how to gw

Terrible Surgeon · May 26, 2010, 09:08 AM // 09:08

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Originally Posted by Fahhhh

It's funny cuz you think I don't know how to gw

Nobody said that...but it sounds like you're not willing to try very hard against something easily countered..I don't see a ton of people complaining about BB being OP. It's just this instance where once in a while in HA you see it. BB was already nerfed to hell when they moved it to strength. Now its a skill exclusive to only warriors.
As far as beating up your squishies. If you are running a bunch of squishies in a hexghey thats your problem and i have no sympathy. TBH, people could run 4 dev hammer wars and do just as well as 4 BB i bet. Maybe not kill as fast/often but would probably work just as well.
Why don't you find something worth while to whine about? Like the bots and Op mesmers in HA atm. I think that would be a good start and get you more consensus than continuing to cry about back breaker. There are simply too many counters too it unless you're running a big hexway.

Block, blind, rupt, kite, snare, stance.....

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