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jimbo32 · May 28, 2010, 10:17 PM // 22:17

...since they're getting rag-dolled by Spectral Agony.

The Jade Cloaks, Armors, and Bows in the WiK groups make for a nice challenging fight in HM, but it kinda sucks when 1/3 of your H/H group goes down in about 3 seconds (I'm looking at you Alesia and Dunham).

Del · May 28, 2010, 11:12 PM // 23:12

maybe anet wants people to play together instead of h/hing?

Gabriel of Ravn · May 28, 2010, 11:20 PM // 23:20

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Originally Posted by Del

maybe anet wants people to play together instead of h/hing?

OMG really why would they want that.

awry · May 28, 2010, 11:38 PM // 23:38

yeah i agree, armor infusion level on hench should be based on player's.

intimidator89 · May 29, 2010, 12:06 AM // 00:06

Agreed, the hench need infused if we are going to add sillÿ Jade to N Kryta. Last I checked ANET didn't ban h/h play and GW2 will still provide hench as well.

Aria Frost · May 29, 2010, 12:13 AM // 00:13

It is really hard, but I've just killed Inquisitor Bauer (and the jades) in HM solo with heroes only, no henchies, and without infusion. My Team died a couple of times too.
I used the spirits army build (http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:Team_-_Spirits_Army) microing a little the heroes.

jimbo32 · May 29, 2010, 12:15 AM // 00:15

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Originally Posted by Del

maybe anet wants people to play together instead of h/hing?

Now c'mon guys...either the game is supposed to be H/H-able, or it isn't. Going with the "ANet is encouraging PUGs" argument, no henches should be infused - even post-Thunderhead Keep. As a matter of fact, it would make more sense for the long Proph missions, as opposed to the quick WiK boss bounties.

While doing the bounty for Bauer yesterday, I was down to myself and three heroes for a good portion of the fight. I'm hoping that the lack of infused henches is just an oversight, but I guess we'll see...

Aria Frost · May 29, 2010, 12:38 AM // 00:38

Completed Inquisitor Lashona quest too. Easier than Bauer although the team died once.

Gabriel of Ravn · May 29, 2010, 12:48 AM // 00:48

Seriously you guys can't get a semi decent player to just group with you for 2 minutes to finish of a bounty and insist that hench need to be infused. Honestly I hope the henchmen don't get infused so people will hmmm I don't know actually group together.

Gennadios · May 29, 2010, 12:55 AM // 00:55

Story wise, the WiK maps are a few years after the events of proph, and since all those henchmen made it as far as the Drok's endgame area, story wise they SHOULD be infused.

I hadn't had any trouble finding players OR completing the bounties H/H. Check your healers maybe? Decent party healing should be able to outheal even uninfused SA.

But yeah, /signed.

MagmaRed · May 29, 2010, 01:06 AM // 01:06

There is no seperate outposts for WiK available content. So someone with a character that can't access WiK content gets the same henchmen as those who can access the content. Although it is not outlandish, having them be infused does not fit into their location. We face a time paradox of sorts, where 2 seperate times exist at the same time, but we can't have seperate henchmen. As noted, it isn't hard to team up with other people, and even uninfused, having heroes should be enough, as I have done the bounties with hench and had minor death counts (if any).

Wouldn't care either way, but dont' see a need for it.

Feathermoore Rep · May 29, 2010, 01:12 AM // 01:12

No henchies have never been infused. Don't change it now.

Chronos the Defiler · May 29, 2010, 01:19 AM // 01:19

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Originally Posted by intimidator89

and GW2 will still provide hench as well.

lol? no not quite (in case you are uninformed, they scrapped the companion system)

As for the hench...ya it would be NICE to have them infused, but I just ended up grouping with other people when I noticed they get facerolled so easy.

It isn't THAT bad to PUG, yo ucan also always have friends and guildies...quit being so anti-social!

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Originally Posted by Feathermoore Rep

No henchies have never been infused. Don't change it now.

This is untrue, hench were not originally infused in the southern shiverpeak missions, but was later added to henchmen to accomodate...but it makes WAY more sense to infuse them there (since that is also where players become infused)

Eragon Zarroc · May 29, 2010, 01:21 AM // 01:21

yes, infuse them. please and ty. /signed

Skyy High · May 29, 2010, 02:10 AM // 02:10

Meh. Do the bonus on Iron Mines in HM with H/H, then come back and complain about uninfused henchies =P

End · May 29, 2010, 04:18 AM // 04:18

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Originally Posted by Skyy High

Meh. Do the bonus on Iron Mines in HM with H/H, then come back and complain about uninfused henchies =P

I did...for three different chars...I'm here to complain about uninfused hencies

However I'd love to see it only in hm...

-Makai- · May 29, 2010, 05:15 AM // 05:15

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Originally Posted by Gennadios

Story wise, the WiK maps are a few years after the events of proph, and since all those henchmen made it as far as the Drok's endgame area, story wise they SHOULD be infused.

I hadn't had any trouble finding players OR completing the bounties H/H. Check your healers maybe? Decent party healing should be able to outheal even uninfused SA.

But yeah, /signed.

Exactly the same reason I'm /signing this.

Nerel · May 29, 2010, 05:18 AM // 05:18

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Originally Posted by jimbo32

Now c'mon guys...either the game is supposed to be H/H-able, or it isn't. Going with the "ANet is encouraging PUGs" argument, no henches should be infused - even post-Thunderhead Keep. As a matter of fact, it would make more sense for the long Proph missions, as opposed to the quick WiK boss bounties.

While doing the bounty for Bauer yesterday, I was down to myself and three heroes for a good portion of the fight. I'm hoping that the lack of infused henches is just an oversight, but I guess we'll see...

It is H/H-able, in HM, with no cons or crap, and no wipes... so according to you they don't actually need to change anything? Cool...

You can flag your heroes and henchies separately... take useful back line henchies and flag them well back behind your heroes.

athariel · May 29, 2010, 06:18 AM // 06:18

Take Spirit Bond. It counters spectral agony pretty nicely

jimbo32 · May 29, 2010, 07:01 AM // 07:01

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Originally Posted by Nerel

It is H/H-able, in HM, with no cons or crap, and no wipes... so according to you they don't actually need to change anything? Cool...

You can flag your heroes and henchies separately... take useful back line henchies and flag them well back behind your heroes.

Wow, it really is amazing how a determined person can purposefully twist words and present things out of context in order to back up their own views.

When I said that, I was addressing someone else's point about ANet possibly encouraging pugs. I never said it was impossible to accomplish the bounties with H/H.

And flagging the henches doesn't do much good if you get a dodgy spawn. Iirc, When I did the bounty, Bauer's group had a Jade Bow and a Jade Cloak which were both running around spamming Spectral Agony at every opportunity. Un-infused henches don't last long - assuming they're within radar range of the Jades. And if they're not in radar range, they may as well not be there at all for all the good they'd be doing.