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Shriketalon · Jun 03, 2010, 06:28 PM // 18:28

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Originally Posted by -Vodka-

1. What about the people who already have GWAMM on multiple characters?;

Good for them. They can feel secure knowing that their achievement didn't go away, because all their characters with GWAMM still have all their maxed titles.

Besides, it is the same as everyone who had Treasure Hunter or Wisdom maxed out on multiple characters. Do we see them complaining?

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2. GWAMM on a level 1? Seriously

Savior of the Luxons on a level 1? Seriously.
Legendary Champion on a level 1? Seriously.
Grandmaster Treasure Hunter on a level 1? Seriously.
Legendary Hero of the Zaishen on a level 1? Seriously.

Seriously.

Why do I support this notion? Because the maxed title track, like Legendary Champion, should be a way of saying "This player is kind of a big deal". If there's a level 1 walking around with GWAMM, it's because that player his serious business and knows his stuff, just like you can tell that a level 1 with LC is one hell of a pvp player.

GWAMM should show that the player is skilled. Not "the player while he is playing a certain character", but "This guy, right here, has done it all, seen it all, and torn the t-shirt from a dying evil god's corpse. No matter his guise, no matter which character he plays, he is a god walking amongst mere mortals."

Aldric · Jun 03, 2010, 06:38 PM // 18:38

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Originally Posted by Shriketalon

GWAMM should show that the player is skilled.

But it doesn't , it shows patience and money for the most part and bears no relation at all to skill level.

/not signed to the suggestion
If you want a title on a character then go get it , making them count towards an account with GWAMM track is just stupid imo.

Gabriel of Ravn · Jun 03, 2010, 06:43 PM // 18:43

Hey I got a better idea let's just get rid of titles all together. (note sarcasm)

/not signed

Eragon Zarroc · Jun 03, 2010, 06:48 PM // 18:48

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Originally Posted by Shriketalon

Besides, it is the same as everyone who had Treasure Hunter or Wisdom maxed out on multiple characters. Do we see them complaining?

who do you know that would have wasted the time and money getting treasure hunter max on 2 or more characters? -_-

Shriketalon · Jun 03, 2010, 06:48 PM // 18:48

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Originally Posted by Aldric

But it doesn't , it shows patience and money for the most part and bears no relation at all to skill level.

Patience, commitment, the ability to earn quite a bit of wealth, exploring and fighting through every continent and mission, and the persistence to accomplish numerous challenges presented throughout the game. In short, overall mastery of The Game Know As Guild Wars (or at least, the PvE part).

I'd call that reasonably skilled.

Tenebrae · Jun 03, 2010, 07:40 PM // 19:40

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Originally Posted by Shriketalon

Good for them. They can feel secure knowing that their achievement didn't go away, because all their characters with GWAMM still have all their maxed titles.

You arent going to die for NOT having GWAMM on all your chars so , no real reason again.

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Originally Posted by Shriketalon

Besides, it is the same as everyone who had Treasure Hunter or Wisdom maxed out on multiple characters. Do we see them complaining?

Pointless. TH is the longest title , more than GWAMM imo and it gives benefits for lockpicks retain chance so it should be account wide. GWAMM gives nothing so once again , no real reason.

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Originally Posted by Shriketalon

Savior of the Luxons on a level 1? Seriously.
Legendary Champion on a level 1? Seriously.
Grandmaster Treasure Hunter on a level 1? Seriously.
Legendary Hero of the Zaishen on a level 1? Seriously.

Seriously.

Not seriously.
Faction title = Gain faction by achieving things , doesnt matter wich character do it and it has benefits ( skills ) so it should be account wide.
Champion is a PvP title , no diff , they always are account wide because its PLAYER vs PLAYER , not char vs char.
Same with the others bla bla.

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Originally Posted by Shriketalon

GWAMM should show that the player is skilled. Not "the player while he is playing a certain character", but "This guy, right here, has done it all, seen it all, and torn the t-shirt from a dying evil god's corpse. No matter his guise, no matter which character he plays, he is a god walking amongst mere mortals."

No, just no. GWAMM shows that char has 30 titles , it doesnt matter from where did they come from.

Seriously now , i mean , REALLY. Stop this "i want my titles faster" threads . An opinion or "i think that ..." is NEVER a real reason for Anet to move a finger about it.

Example ?
"Hey , TH title gives lockpick retain chance , the whole account should benefit of it like it does with Faction (skills) title"
- Response from Anet : Fair enough , TH is now account wide.

See ? try stuff like that.

Fusylum · Jun 03, 2010, 07:46 PM // 19:46

I dont have gwamm and dont plan to get it
if they did this, I would definitely play more

Seraphim Angel · Jun 03, 2010, 07:46 PM // 19:46

/heck no
Uh isn't this like the 1 millionth time someone has suggested this and this thread is still open?

FoxBat · Jun 03, 2010, 07:52 PM // 19:52

If it's any consolation, GWAMM itself should not transfer to GW2, which I guess you are concerned about with the "time left" comment.

Shriketalon · Jun 03, 2010, 08:55 PM // 20:55

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Originally Posted by Tenebrae

Seriously now , i mean , REALLY. Stop this "i want my titles faster" threads .

Where in this thread is anything mentioned about getting titles faster?

This suggestion wouldn't make gaining any given title any easier. Every single part of GWAMM would still take equally long, cost an equal amount, and require an equal amount of effort.

The only way it would be "faster" would be for anyone who got cheated out of Survivor by having characters who are older than Factions (and given that things like birthday presents reward older characters, understandably don't want to delete all their time and effort just because the title requirement specifically excluded them). Having proper access to something everyone else can do is hardly begging for faster titles.

SmokingHotImolation · Jun 03, 2010, 09:11 PM // 21:11

No. Reason?

Gwamm has no effect other than showoff so implementing account wide gwamm would do nothing but screw those over, that put time into getting it on multiple characters.

Cash · Jun 03, 2010, 10:15 PM // 22:15

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Originally Posted by Shriketalon

Why do I support this notion? Because the maxed title track, like Legendary Champion, should be a way of saying "This player is kind of a big deal". If there's a level 1 walking around with GWAMM, it's because that player his serious business and knows his stuff, just like you can tell that a level 1 with LC is one hell of a pvp player.

GWAMM should show that the player is skilled. Not "the player while he is playing a certain character", but "This guy, right here, has done it all, seen it all, and torn the t-shirt from a dying evil god's corpse. No matter his guise, no matter which character he plays, he is a god walking amongst mere mortals."

totally agree with this.

i think more of the titles should be account based. booze, sweets, and party titles for a start because i dont want to spend a gajillion gold doing them on each char. sunspear, lightbringer, and all eotn rep grinds i also would like to be acct based. not that theyre particularly hard to do- i just dont want to deal with the grind-fest.

vanquishing and carto im up in the air about. i totally understand why its not, but those titles i'll probably never repeat on an alt. guardian titles should definately NOT be, as you get those playing thru the game (or should).

of course this is all just my opinion. in the end, theyre just titles. as long as i can get one GWAMM done before GW2, i'll be happy.

chaosincarnate87 · Jun 03, 2010, 11:02 PM // 23:02

/signed if.... you already have GWAMM for each class... then its ok to have GWAMM on a fresh character, you earned it at that point.

/not signed because... there are several people in my guild alone that have multiple GWAMM's (not me, tbh I dont have a single GWAMM and don't intend on wasting my time on 1 class that long) not to mention across the rest of guild wars. It takes a lot away from the people who took the time to play multiple characters to that extent.

If you want a shiny account wide title, PvP or start shilling out money for zkeys...

edit... also...

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Originally Posted by Shriketalon

Patience, commitment, the ability to earn quite a bit of wealth, exploring and fighting through every continent and mission, and the persistence to accomplish numerous challenges presented throughout the game. In short, overall mastery of The Game Know As Guild Wars (or at least, the PvE part).

I'd call that reasonably skilled.

It shows someone knows how to play 1 class well... thats all it shows.

Tenebrae · Jun 03, 2010, 11:09 PM // 23:09

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Originally Posted by Shriketalon

Where in this thread is anything mentioned about getting titles faster?

LoL . Are you serious ? about the WHOLE thread point is about that ?.
Its about "hey, i cant have Ldoa on my char so i want to have it on another and make it count for ALL CHARS in Gwamm title".
Dude that IS wanting titles faster , in this case GWAMM title.

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Originally Posted by Shriketalon

This suggestion wouldn't make gaining any given title any easier. Every single part of GWAMM would still take equally long, cost an equal amount, and require an equal amount of effort.

Now i think that you didnt even bother to read #1 , when in reasons 1 and 2 are totally made of "i want this faster" or "i want this for free so i dont have to spend money on alehound".

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Originally Posted by Shriketalon

Having proper access to something everyone else can do is hardly begging for faster titles.

Everyone has same accesss , no one has easier time VQ title for example than anyone. Making GWAMM acount based is pointless and has no valid reasons because i want my ti....

you know what ? nvm .

Aldric · Jun 03, 2010, 11:19 PM // 23:19

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Originally Posted by Shriketalon

GWAMM should show that the player is skilled. Not "the player while he is playing a certain character", but "This guy, right here, has done it all, seen it all, and torn the t-shirt from a dying evil god's corpse. No matter his guise, no matter which character he plays, he is a god walking amongst mere mortals."

My soon to be GWAMM is a Ranger and I would say i'm decent , I know im not great but im pretty good overall. However at,for instance, Warrior or Monk I am completely bloody rotten, no disputing it , i fecking suck balls so why should i be able to use a title gained from playing a class which i have some skill at on a class which I completely blow at ?

(This is assuming showing GWAMM actually meant having skill , which it obviously doesnt)

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Originally Posted by Shriketalon

Patience, commitment, the ability to earn quite a bit of wealth, exploring and fighting through every continent and mission, and the persistence to accomplish numerous challenges presented throughout the game. In short, overall mastery of The Game Know As Guild Wars (or at least, the PvE part).

I'd call that reasonably skilled.

Maybe you would but i've grouped with Obsi wearing warrior gwamms who still use mending and have no clue as to positioning/puling/targeting/basic mechanics or even just good skill knowledge. GWAMM needs no skill whatsoever apart from persistence, even teh worst player around can do it , and many have.

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Originally Posted by Cash

totally agree with this.

i think more of the titles should be account based. booze, sweets, and party titles for a start because i dont want to spend a gajillion gold doing them on each char. sunspear, lightbringer, and all eotn rep grinds i also would like to be acct based. not that theyre particularly hard to do- i just dont want to deal with the grind-fest.

vanquishing and carto im up in the air about. i totally understand why its not, but those titles i'll probably never repeat on an alt. guardian titles should definately NOT be, as you get those playing thru the game (or should).

of course this is all just my opinion. in the end, theyre just titles. as long as i can get one GWAMM done before GW2, i'll be happy.

None of the titles you mentioned should ever be account based , they are all fairly easy to max with very little grind at all

SunfallE · Jun 03, 2010, 11:28 PM // 23:28

/notsigned since it seems to be nothing more than a means to max titles on all characters.

X CDH X · Jun 03, 2010, 11:41 PM // 23:41

Make GWAMM applicable for a players entire account for each UNIQUE title their characters have attained (2x LB won't count.) Suggested for two reasons:

EDIT: Seems like I wasn't clear enough. All the current Char based titles can still be character based, GWAMM will just take each unique title any char has into account. For the people that don't want a lvl1 char /w the title, how about only unlocking it on a character only when they have 10 titles maxed.

Reason 1 being that it will make it easier on the people whose main characters never attained Legendary Survivor or LDoA to still get a chance to have those count towards their total.

Reason 2 being that having access to the two mutually exclusive titles (Survivor/LDoA) will make Alehound unnecessary.

Does anyone else remember that in the months leading up to the HOM "upgrade" ANet said something to the tune of "We feel that under the current system, players are discouraged to play multiple characters."

The 'upgrade' didn't really address the core issue. Issue being the fact that the very existance of the HoM, as an extension of the KOABD title, ties players to a single character for the duration of the title.

I understand that there are several alternatives to the terrible 3 titles (Drunk/Sweet/Party,) but with GW2 looming, it seems less and less likely that titles such as Seeker of Lux/Kurz/Wisdom/Treasure Hunter/Lucky/Unlucky/All PvP titles can be completed by anyone that hasn't been less than 2 years.

For Original Poster
Lol lazy noob GWAMM isn't really hard to get - you just need to be focussed and work through your titles - For drunk title you can do other stuff at the same time you know. You don't have to sit in your guild hall clicking away

GWAMM is meant to be the hardest title for PVE players so it should be hard to get... If you don't want to put the effort in you shouldn't get it... On my monk file I didn't get LDoA or survivor and I got it fairly easy with a possibility to get a couple more

Shriketalon · Jun 04, 2010, 12:13 AM // 00:13

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Originally Posted by Tenebrae

Everyone has same accesss

Not really, no.

Any character created before Factions has no access to survivor. Any character who left Pre before LDoA was programmed in can never get it back. Your scenario, "I want LDoA to get my title more easily" isn't a matter of getting titles faster, it's a matter of getting a fair shot at it, because that would allow him to progress in GWAMM at an equal rate to a character who DID get a chance to do LDoA.

Earning Survivor would take just as long as someone doing Survivor from the start. Same with LDoA, same with all the titles. This update would merely allow people who were screwed out of access to these titles a fair shot, on par with everyone else.

Davros Uitar · Jun 04, 2010, 12:20 AM // 00:20

/not signed - fail idea is fail.

Tenebrae · Jun 04, 2010, 08:24 AM // 08:24

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Originally Posted by Shriketalon

Not really, no.

Yes , really yes.

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Originally Posted by Shriketalon

Any character created before Factions has no access to survivor.

You still FAIL at the basic equation.
Dude , PLAYER =\= CHARACTER , understand now ? EVERYONE has same access to all stuff.

At HoM ( you know , that place where titles count towards GW2 but you cant show off on any town ) they DO count , so again no REAL reason.

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Originally Posted by Shriketalon

This update would merely allow people who were screwed out of access to these titles to get a FASTER GWAMM title because they have exclusive titles on diff chars.

Fixed , see ?
Now instead 31 titles , my ranger would have 33 ( with Ldoa on W and Survivor on Mes ) so i dont really give a s*** but those with chars with 28 titles for example will GET GWAMM FASTER "for free" , understood ?

Hope caps help you to see the truth of this nonsense . If you still fail to see it i think no one can help you and i wont reply anymore.