Curse

Spookii · Nov 21, 2010, 06:15 PM // 18:15

I thought about this today and didn't see a thread already that suggested this, so here I am.

I'd like to see the HoM armor requirement changed from having to have legs, feet, chest, and arms to just having 4 of the armor pieces of a set. Meaning the headpiece would be counted, if there is one available. The gloves and the headpiece of armor sets usually cost the same amount of money, so it's not like you'd be getting away with spending less. You would just get to choose which pieces you wanted to buy instead of having to buy chest, legs, arms, and feet.

You could buy...

Chest, legs, headpiece, arms.

Chest, legs, headpiece, feet.

Legs, headpiece, feet, arms.

Etc.

If there's any sort of reasoning as to why they made it the way they did (technical limitations), then please let me know.

drkn · Nov 21, 2010, 07:53 PM // 19:53

You display your armor on the monument. It's full there. It would look silly without the chest piece.
The only reason why headpiece is not required in the first place - not every armor had a headpiece before EotN and the devs wanted it to stay that way, and it might lead to some sort of unfairness.

Spookii · Nov 21, 2010, 07:57 PM // 19:57

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Originally Posted by drkn

You display your armor on the monument. It's full there. It would look silly without the chest piece.
The only reason why headpiece is not required in the first place - not every armor had a headpiece before EotN and the devs wanted it to stay that way, and it might lead to some sort of unfairness.

It doesn't matter, it would still display the entire set as it does now. You don't need the headpiece to put your set into the HoM, yet it still shows it on the statue.

And as I said before, it wouldn't be considered unfair because of money. The headpiece costs roughly the same amount as a hands or feet piece (some may even cost more). The difference would be marginal, if there at all. If there is no specific headpiece for that set, then there's no specific headpiece. It doesn't really make it more fair or less fair for someone with a set that does have a specific headpiece.

I Hate Chips · Nov 21, 2010, 09:28 PM // 21:28

Why complain about a few extra mula? =3

drkn · Nov 21, 2010, 09:33 PM // 21:33

Maybe i should rephrase it.
You display your armor, full armor, on the monument. Being able to display it without the main part, chest, would just be damn silly.
You would also need the headpiece BUT there were elite armors without a headpiece before HoM got introduced to the game, so instead of adding headpieces to all armors and requiring 5 armor parts for the monument, they lowered it to 'everything but the hat'.
It's the reason why you need four pieces in the first place. There's no reason to let us pick which four pieces we want - i'd rather see the missing headpieces added to sets so that you'd need a FULL set to display it.

**Marty Silverblade** · Nov 21, 2010, 09:39 PM // 21:39

/notsigned

This makes no sense. An armor set NEEDS to include the chest piece, otherwise it would not be a set. Headpieces have always been supplementary to the set, even if some sets had headpieces specifically for them. Look at Elementalist head pieces; none of them go with a specific armor set. Warriors have a generic helmet, at least in Prophecies. I see where you're going with the 'same cost' thing but the gloves and boots are not supplementary to the set, they're an important part of it.

Spookii · Nov 21, 2010, 10:10 PM // 22:10

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Originally Posted by drkn

Maybe i should rephrase it.
You display your armor, full armor, on the monument. Being able to display it without the main part, chest, would just be damn silly.
You would also need the headpiece BUT there were elite armors without a headpiece before HoM got introduced to the game, so instead of adding headpieces to all armors and requiring 5 armor parts for the monument, they lowered it to 'everything but the hat'.
It's the reason why you need four pieces in the first place. There's no reason to let us pick which four pieces we want - i'd rather see the missing headpieces added to sets so that you'd need a FULL set to display it.

I guess that's a matter of opinion, about certain pieces being more a part of a set than others. I would consider Dervish hoods to be just as much a part of the main set as the rest of the armor. I don't think that's a good reason to keep it the way it is, really. Helmets for warriors also seem like a very large part of the set, to me.

I understand that some sets have 4 pieces with no headpiece, as I said before. I think that by making it a requirement to have the full 5 pieces (if there are that many pieces for the set) would also be one way of doing things, but the reason I suggested this was to keep it fair for sets that only have 4 pieces as you mentioned.

Luminarus · Nov 21, 2010, 10:10 PM // 22:10

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Originally Posted by Spookii

You could buy...

Chest, legs, headpiece, arms.

Chest, legs, headpiece, feet.

Legs, headpiece, feet, arms.

Etc.

Option 3 is the reason why not. Chest requires 3 times as much materials as headpiece arms etc. Legs Twice as many.

Sounds to me like someone needs Obsidian and Vabbian in their HoM but cant afford a chest piece!!!

Completely NOT Signed.

Spookii · Nov 22, 2010, 12:47 AM // 00:47

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Originally Posted by Luminarus

Option 3 is the reason why not. Chest requires 3 times as much materials as headpiece arms etc. Legs Twice as many.

Sounds to me like someone needs Obsidian and Vabbian in their HoM but cant afford a chest piece!!!

Completely NOT Signed.

Uhm, you know what they say about assumptions. o_O

I have more than one (complete) sets of both Vabbian AND Obsidian. I just think that it's somewhat silly not to include the headpiece. Don't automatically assume something like that, it makes you look...well, immature.

True, the chest piece costs 3 times as much as the headgear but I still don't think it would matter all that much. I can see your point as to how it would matter with high-end armor like Obsidian and Vabbian, though.

Shadow Sin · Nov 22, 2010, 02:41 AM // 02:41

Not signed, this is a stupid idea since the you're basically lobbying for it to be EASIER for a meta that is dedicated to helping the poor, the lazy, and the downright stupid. The majority of players share this opinion: The game is getting too easy, and this idea is catering to the mentality that I should get what I want for the least effort possible.

Spookii · Nov 22, 2010, 12:38 PM // 12:38

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Originally Posted by Shadow Sin

Not signed, this is a stupid idea since the you're basically lobbying for it to be EASIER for a meta that is dedicated to helping the poor, the lazy, and the downright stupid. The majority of players share this opinion: The game is getting too easy, and this idea is catering to the mentality that I should get what I want for the least effort possible.

Then perhaps another way? I'm not lobbying to make the game easier, I'm lobbying to incorporate more option for armor sets being included in the HoM. I'd like to see headgear introduced somehow without making it "Requires 5 pieces" since there are some sets without 5 pieces.

Edit: I saw a radiant insignia and thought about this:

What if they were to label the pieces sort of how they label them for the insignia?

- To put up an armor suit in the HoM, you must have chest, legs, and at least two "level 3" pieces of the set (arms, feet, or headpiece).