Curse

Del · Dec 17, 2010, 02:46 AM // 02:46

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Originally Posted by jazilla

So it's important enough to get a nerf, but not important enough to have some skills on one bar of your team team to counter it? Got it.

By that logic, no skill balance is necessary. There is always a way to buildwars anything. But being forced to focus on camping one person because of a broken skill like ST, merely because it's the only way to deal with the problem is just pants-on-head retarded. Forcing a ranger/mes to camp one target also forces them to ignore 7 others,, and the fact that you have to ignore 5 other targets because of one skill on the person you have to camp means that that 1 skill is broken.

/signed.

Faer · Dec 17, 2010, 06:34 AM // 06:34

At this point I feel that this thread is in need of a bit of help. I have slightly altered the title, and would like to request that any discussion from this point on be held by individuals who are at least moderately informed on the format being discussed in the thread, to keep things as civil and constructive as possible.

Sirius Bsns · Dec 17, 2010, 07:19 AM // 07:19

ST is retardedly OP'd for reasons already explained in this thread [period]. /signed

wilson · Dec 17, 2010, 08:45 AM // 08:45

/signed

This feels more like a bugged skill than a wanted game mechanic.

Smarty · Dec 17, 2010, 09:11 AM // 09:11

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Originally Posted by Lanier

It wouldn't have to be a split, since this change would hardly affect PvE

Not touching the PvP aspect of it at all, just the bit about whether or not it would need to be split if it was changed.

I disagree. The ST prot build (widely used in DoA, also used elsewhere) would be near useless in PvE if ST was changed - shelter etc die far too fast and have too long a recharge without ST. The build already has its limitations, it doesn't need to be nerfed into the ground by ST not being split. ST is used in other builds too - I've been known to stick it on communing heroes sometimes, I've seen players do similar - so it's not like it's only the one build/area that would be hit by a lack of split.

Del · Dec 17, 2010, 09:23 AM // 09:23

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Originally Posted by Smarty

it doesn't need to be nerfed into the ground by not being split.

It wouldn't be nerfed into the ground if it wasn't split. We're talking about stopping the instant recharge on rupts, not stopping instant recharge entirely.

superraptors · Dec 17, 2010, 09:32 AM // 09:32

the interupt thing needs a fix other then that i see no problems with it, personally i have never had trouble going up against bbway, actually probably the easiest build to counter, put a bsurge and trip wep rit and ur good to go

Smarty · Dec 17, 2010, 10:08 AM // 10:08

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Originally Posted by Del

It wouldn't be nerfed into the ground if it wasn't split. We're talking about stopping the instant recharge on rupts, not stopping instant recharge entirely.

Fixed grammar in my post, I meant the build not the skill being nerfed into the ground. My bad.

Re only changing the recharge on rupt - fair enough, can't see that hurting PvE any. I just don't trust ANet to think through the impact of their changes, or to change a skill properly to actually fix the issue that people are complaining about, based on past experience, so I thought I'd put it out there that yes changes to ST could well have a big impact on PvE (depending on how it's changed, if at all).

Morphy · Dec 17, 2010, 10:27 AM // 10:27

There's really not much else to say on this thread. Fix the dumb skill.

/signed

*lemming* · Dec 17, 2010, 10:34 AM // 10:34

The instant recharge isn't a bug. Glyph of Renewal has always worked the same way, after all.