Curse

LifeInfusion · Dec 30, 2010, 11:33 PM // 23:33

Mesmer damage is borderline OP compared to Eles. Mistrust and Wandering Eye AoE, for example, should never have been made nearby (130 or so armor ignoring?). Both are in powerful attribute lines already. This is not even counting spammy things like Clumsiness, Overload, Wastel's Demise,etc. that make Fireball (or any Fire Magic other than Searing Flames) look stupid.

fr.aodhan · Dec 31, 2010, 01:42 AM // 01:42

Out of curiosity I treated this as a finite state Markov chain and looked for a stable distribution. With 16 FC, assuming you cast one spell per second for a 16% chance of a 3 second KD, your target spends 40.7% of its time on the ground; i.e. if we assume the process goes on forever, your enemy is only standing about 60% of the time.

This disregards what the spells actually _do_.

Bright Star Shine · Dec 31, 2010, 02:03 AM // 02:03

Just to point out AGAIN how insanely powerful mesmers are: when we do DoA with our guild (i.e. about 22/24 hours since we have both active euro and american players) we run a caller bar that uses Visions of Regret. Ok, I do +40% damage cause of LB title, but the ele would do so too, so it's fair. When I run this bar, I also use Intensity and BuH (duh) and my intensity "only" does +22% damage cause I'm a lazy f.ck who refuses to max his SS (should be able to transfer from LB to SS, got like 700k LB by now) So, anyway, my VoR does 264 damage EVERY time it's triggered. That's f.cking nuts, and that doesn't count the Esurges wanking their 348 damage each and the Troller going medieval with Wandering eye...

So, back to the VoR: let's crank it down to it's basic damage it would do without the buffs: 264*0.78*0.6*0.75 = ~93damage. That's not bad, and assuming you're not a retard, you'll run BuH or intensity OR BOTH on your bar nonetheless, and it's pretty easy to keep up with AP, so pick your favorite combo, i.e. Overload + Shatter Delusions + BuH + Intensity and BOOM you're awesome! (for the record, only removing LB title would make VoR 158 damage).
EDIT: Yes, I know AP is an elite, so if you go with the AP, of course VoR doesn't apply.

Eles on the other hand have to deal with: non-armor ignoring damage (i.e. most of their damage is cut to about 30% in HM) scatter, and no FC, if you run red rocks, ok, but it still doesn't beat the mesmers, who can pop red rocks as well...

Conclusion: mesmers are awesome, eles are backline bitches doomed to bond until anet finally decides to fix them.