Curse

Mintha Syl · Jun 20, 2010, 10:23 AM // 10:23

Sorry if I didn't manage to read all the posts, it's already a very long thread and I started reading only now. Why? The other day I decided I would revive my ritu, she's always been a spirit spammer and that was boring as hell for me, so I wasn't using her anymore. I gave her a second opportunity, completely changed everything of her build. Basically I wanted something in the channelling line, something that wasn't about spirits. And really, the only elite worth taking is DwG. And now I'm having fun again with her.
So I'm all with the ones who say that's the only current option if you don't want to just sit and spam spirits.

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EssayReader · Jun 20, 2010, 02:19 PM // 14:19

Suppose we do get rid of DwG, wouldn't we just revert back to all the other DoASC builds? Aren't they also mindless?

byteme! · Jun 20, 2010, 02:32 PM // 14:32

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Originally Posted by EssayReader

Suppose we do get rid of DwG, wouldn't we just revert back to all the other DoASC builds? Aren't they also mindless?

It's only a handful of people QQ'ing. Happens every time there is a flavor of the month build. When this passes they'll move on to something else. To think we have Dervish updates coming next too. Good times ahead. Seeing as though it's virtually impossible to please everyone, (especially here on guru) it's often best to just downright ignore them.

NerfHerder · Jun 20, 2010, 03:43 PM // 15:43

The only place I see DwG being used is DoA. Its not even an exploit, as it has been pointed out, its the same SC build with DwG instead of another caster spike. DoA is very popular now and is actually getting PUGs to play well together.

/notsigned d/t QQfail

rampage365 · Jun 20, 2010, 03:56 PM // 15:56

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Originally Posted by kennywong

I can't help but suspect that those calling for a nerf to DwG for DoA SC might be people who have already made enough & wanted to stop gems/armbrace prices from slipping further.

Perhaps i m ignorant, I have not seen DwG used outside of DoA SC & Courier runs (I don't PVP).

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This.

Most people who don't want dwg around are those who have already gotten their riches or are those elite DoASCers. But really if you are one of the elites, then you could easily hop on a DoASC guild/alliance and do it your way. Same goes for others who want a coordinated DoASC. Like kennywong and many others have said, DwG is only being done in NM DoA, and not anywhere else, and takes 2hrs to complete with pugs. IT IS NOT LIKE URSAN, which worked pretty much EVERYWHERE. I heard someone here say that dwg is for only one profession. Apparently they haven't been to DoA recently.

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spirit of defeat · Jun 20, 2010, 06:23 PM // 18:23

A-net wants to promote PUG's, and so do I

/not singed

Cuilan · Jun 23, 2010, 03:39 AM // 03:39

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Originally Posted by The Brother Of Nika

bcuz they way or method that is need 2 be done 2 create or get the drop for a said item can be more difficult than another item with another method.

Your English could use some work, but method of attaining them shouldn't matter if it's a junk weapon that stabs your characters in the leg.

kazjun · Jun 23, 2010, 05:47 AM // 05:47

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It's not exactly fast, so no.

And runs mainly in NM. Hardly OPness there.

It's actually brought people to the DOA, so good.

It's brought back pugging for those not in SC guilds, so good.

And as for destroying the price of ambraces? Well, an items price isn't just supply. The number of people willing to pay 30e+ for ambraces are only so many, and just about all who wanted one would have brought them long ago. You can't expect a high end item to keep the same price while demand is falling as time passes. Even with reducing supply, you can't expect that the price will stay high for something with only one real use.

It's same as most other so called rare skins, price has dropped as everyone who wanted one and was willing to pay big got one. Everyone left wasn't willing to pay the high prices so they dropped.

Missing HB · Jun 23, 2010, 06:16 AM // 06:16

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People kept complaining about ursans there , then it got nerfed after a few weeks. Then ppl started to use perma sins with cryers for over a year without a nerf , and noone of these ppl even complained. Now some other build is played , those start to complain again because this build is effective ( in NM though ), and because ambrance price is dropping.

I would say that price dropping was very obvious and it was also very surprising that , upon all perma sins farming UW or that place , ecto/ambrance price never ever dropped a lot .

Anime Divine · Jun 23, 2010, 06:55 AM // 06:55

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altough there are some pretty stupid close minded people in domain of anquish.
like former meta's they all want the same build as in wiki.
so i coulndt play monk because i didnt have mimicri lmao.

RedDog91 · Jun 23, 2010, 08:46 PM // 20:46

The people that want it nerfed fit into 2 categories.
category 1: People who can't seem to complete NF with a ritualist (though DWG builds are easy to make for most other professions with secondary rit)
category 2: People who use DWG to get armbraces but have realized that the prices have dropped dramatically.

Shayne Hawke · Jun 23, 2010, 10:12 PM // 22:12

I don't see anything especially wrong about DwG. The Domain of Anguish itself, on the other hand...

Skyy High · Jun 24, 2010, 05:52 PM // 17:52

If this is the worst "exploit" that people can complain about now, I'm happy. This is so much better than Ursan or SF it's not even funny.

chuckles79 · Jun 28, 2010, 04:29 PM // 16:29

I'm 90% sure that everyone QQ is an ex-SF farmer who doesn't know what else to do because SF was all they did for the last 2 years.
This finally lets rits into an elite area (rits aren't welcome in the Factions elite areas, which is ironic and sad) and also provides work for imbas who aren't welcome in FoWSCs and UW.

Lastly, everyone forgets that GW2 is coming soon. I've suspected all along that rapid deflation and obsurdly strong buffs were going to be coming to allow everyone to squeeze the last juice out of GW1 so that they are eager to go to GW2.
After all, there are a lot of casual players who will never get Tormented Weps or Obby Armor at this rate.

Is it fair to those who did things the hard way? No, but neither was the destruction of the in game economy thx to SF for as long as that went on.

If nothing else everyone should read the signs and dustoff their dervs and paras for the upcoming buffs. They are going to be cheap too, but very fun for those who kept the faith with these professions.

To Chicken To Die · Jun 28, 2010, 05:48 PM // 17:48

Look it's time again. Don't worry when the dev team feels rit have been used enough they will nerf this skill. It's not a matter if but a matter of when. An answer you will never know until it has been done. It's just a fase guildwars is going trough after Ursan, SF, 600/smite. DWG will add to this list and the next spot will be filled. The Question will be whats next

chuckles79 · Jun 28, 2010, 06:45 PM // 18:45

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Originally Posted by To Chicken To Die

Look it's time again. Don't worry when the dev team feels rit have been used enough they will nerf this skill. It's not a matter if but a matter of when. An answer you will never know until it has been done. It's just a fase guildwars is going trough after Ursan, SF, 600/smite. DWG will add to this list and the next spot will be filled. The Question will be whats next

I'm thinking Sand Shards with 60dps and 66% slowdown in the AoE.
Perhaps Cruel Spear will be like Ebon Archer and have a 10% of insta-kill.
SY with +200 armor and Reaper's Strike summons Dhuum as a summon.

(all j/k of course, but then if you told me in early 07 that Anet was going to make assassins not only tanks, but invincible I would have laughed)

Mordiego · Jun 28, 2010, 08:03 PM // 20:03

Less QQ, more farm. Exploit it while u can, just like everyone else does. To the bone!

chuckles79 · Jun 28, 2010, 08:17 PM // 20:17

I understand the frustration though... is everyone going to have to get one of EVERY profession through the entire game just in case the next god-like buff lands on that profession?

Gondrakif · Jun 28, 2010, 10:43 PM // 22:43

OP asks to nerf DwG because there is a team build that can complete DoA in NM using full consets within 1-2 hours... Hmmmm...

Let's leave aside the fact that builds exist which do same thing in HM in half that time and are give or take mindless too.

Well if you ask me the main problem about this team build isn't DwG but the imbagon. Sure the DwG guys do most of the damage but do you think they could even get to use half their skills without a guy from behind providing them with constant +100 armor? Without SY! the monks would explode (hence why it's so important to keep the paragon clean).

The core of the team is SY+2healers+5DamageDealers so if DwG is nerfed people will still be able to do it but they would have to use another build for damage and maybe just maybe the run will get a bit longer.

Bottom-line, if those DoA NM runs is what you want gone aim for the right skill to be nerfed...

Ungle · Jun 28, 2010, 11:00 PM // 23:00

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because you DWG nubs like to drop armbrace prices down, selling for cheaper and cheaper, making them hard to sell for those of us who have lots of them, and farm them with our guilds