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myopic · Jan 12, 2011, 02:23 AM // 02:23

What does the community think about paying to unlock max tier PvE only skills?

Things like Allegiance, Sunspear/Lightbringer, and Asura/Ebon/Vanguard/Deldrimor ranks.

I'll never max Allegiance because of the insane amounts of grind required to max that title. As for the other ranks, I've maxed all of them on only one of my toons, but that was mostly through speedbooking runs back in the day.

I have absolutely no desire to grind through multiple tiers of these ranks to max pve only skills, but I'd be more than willing to pay a little real life money to have them maxed on some of my alts.

Yay? Nay?

LifeInfusion · Jan 12, 2011, 02:32 AM // 02:32

I'm sure 99% of the people that did it the hard way will disagree. I personally would rather everything for the reputation ranks be accountwide once you reach rank 5 (armor rank) so that you don't need to play one or two characters in EoTN. That way it doesn't reward "ebaying" but it makes it easier. Practically you can get r9 sunspear and 5 or 6 LB without VQ so I would let that be accountwide too.

It cheapens the HOM if you can get 6 (4 EoTN + SS+LB) titles for X amount of real life money.

End · Jan 12, 2011, 03:07 AM // 03:07

As usual I is against paying for anything that gives a real significant benefit in game.

They wanna release pretty weapon skins or costumes thats fine. The skill unlock packs are like borderline, but really not a huge advantage because of how quickly a brand new account can unlock all the skills it really needs.

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Originally Posted by LifeInfusion

II personally would rather everything for the reputation ranks be accountwide once you reach rank 5 (armor rank) so that you don't need to play one or two characters in EoTN.

Make it r8 for eotn skills and some equivilency for the SS and LB (probably stick with r8 SS and r6 LB) and I agree with that

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Originally Posted by Rites

lol edit: can i just buy my ranks in the military?

with enough money yes actually.

Rites · Jan 12, 2011, 03:14 AM // 03:14

i kinda don't agree with this, kinda defeats the purpose of the rankings if you can just buy them

/NOT signed

lol edit: can i just buy my ranks in the military?

Uriel_Wolfblood · Jan 12, 2011, 03:45 AM // 03:45

You don't need max ranks for a PVE only skill to be effective. Just playing the game with your toon will give them enough rep to rank them up to a moderately effective level.

Besides, Allegiance skills don't add that much between tier 1 and tier 12, and EoTN reps are really easy to farm (Norn and Dwarf skills are the most commonly used, followed by Asura) in a week or two. Just play the game and you will have good enough results.

*lemming* · Jan 12, 2011, 03:52 AM // 03:52

Buy an account if you feel like spending money.

Sketch_Says · Jan 12, 2011, 03:58 AM // 03:58

I think I have to stick with the group on this one. I have NO problem with the core skills, but paying for Elite skills or reputation based skills that are earned through playing through the storyline I think would be a bad idea. I was actually rather relieved to see the core skills as an option to buy in the online store but I don't think I could support the harder earned skills being sold. It's my opinion anyway

reaper with no name · Jan 12, 2011, 04:31 AM // 04:31

Well, on the one hand, these particular titles do offer mechanical benefits (and, depending on the skill, can mean a huge difference). Therefore, according to the GW design philosophy of "all players are equal", all players should be entitled to be able to max these titles easily, just as they are entitled to easily get max armor and equipment.

However, the solution is to make these titles easier to max, not to make it a micro-transaction. Your cure is worse than the disease.

Horace Slughorn · Jan 12, 2011, 04:54 AM // 04:54

how about mini pet unlock pack, $50 in-game store

Kook~NBK~ · Jan 12, 2011, 04:57 AM // 04:57

A while back, A-Net buffed PvE only skills at lower ranks to close the gap between people with low ranks and people with high ranks. In almost every case, this rendered PvE skills quite powerful even at rank 1 or 2.

/not signed.

Valsung · Jan 12, 2011, 05:01 AM // 05:01

The game is dead and has been for years. Your "achievements" meant nothing back then, and they mean even less now. So long as it doesn't throw the balance of the game too far out the window I could truly care less. If it means enough to you to pay for something with your money then who am I to judge?

KZaske · Jan 12, 2011, 05:35 AM // 05:35

Not Signed. I see no reason why these skills should not be earned.

caballo_oscuro · Jan 12, 2011, 05:36 AM // 05:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horace Slughorn

how about mini pet unlock pack, $50 in-game store

Hmmm, I have one. How about a prize for collecting an amount of different kinds of items from enemies and bringing them to some kind of a collector in exchange for an item or set of items?

Or maybe setting a challenging mini-game with an objective which is not a requirement of the main game, but gives a satisfying reward?

Or maybe a set of long tasks which test your knowledge and abilities in several different tasks?

Just Sai · Jan 12, 2011, 07:03 AM // 07:03

yea sure why not

put it under the pvp title unlock pack

max hero for $$

why not sell full max title gwamm accounts all geard up in obby an chaos with torms an chrys an ....

mhmm some things are supposed to be earn't

wth wld u bother installing if your just want to buy your way to the end

t h i n k a b o u t i t

Chthon · Jan 12, 2011, 07:24 AM // 07:24

Consistent with the principle "skill > time," not only should everyone be able to quickly and easily unlock max (and therefore equal) PvE skills, they should be able to do so for free.

Consistent with the principle that microtransactions that effect player effectiveness are a quick and surefire way to turn your game to crap, something that is not practically available to most players (max kurz/luxon) absolutely, 100% should not be made available for real-world cash.

I am Judge · Jan 12, 2011, 08:10 AM // 08:10

/not signed... btw Op are you a Sin?

Gabriel of Ravn · Jan 12, 2011, 08:41 AM // 08:41

No just no if you're too lazy to max them yourself hire someone to fill up some books for you not like it's expensive.
/notsigned

GwOxygen · Jan 12, 2011, 08:51 AM // 08:51

/notsigned

Play the game for god's sake. Please!
I know you can already buy full skill-unluck packs but I'm completely against that too!

gremlin · Jan 12, 2011, 09:42 AM // 09:42

Notsigned even though I like to be able to finish a game and get maximum levels in anything I choose to do without investing years of play to do it.
Don't mind the game itself taking years its just the fact that individual skills take longer than the game.

For me the bad thing about Sunspear asura Norn titles is you only get them to max after you finish the game which kind of defeats the object.
The really big nasty foe should still be around till you get your full ability and you then have a heroic fight and hopefully win.

That said anything in the game could be bought with real money already its just a question of how much.

Bristlebane · Jan 12, 2011, 10:26 AM // 10:26

If it's PVE skills only, paying $8.95/skill title then maybe. After all it's only for PVE, it's costly enough, and Anet gets a bit extra income which will benefit us all in GW2.

I can say I would have bought a Kurzick/Luxon title right away, but none of the other titles involved.

So:
Yes to Kurzick/Luxon/Asura/Norn/Vanguard/Sunspear/Lightbringer
No to Wisdom/Treasure or any other beneficial titles.