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Old Oct 26, 2006, 01:12 AM // 01:12   #1
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Default GW please change the survivor title!!

Ok ive searched this forum and was unable to find a post with what im proposing so here goes;

I have been playing the same char on guild wars since just before it origionally came out. I have achived a lot since then all with the same char including getting full FoW armor, Becoming a portector of both tryia and cantha, becoming a grandmaster cartographer of both tryia and cantha, capping all 180 elites and much more. Needless to say i am not about to creat a new char and start over!

i would like to be able to get the survivor title on the same char as the one i mentioned but at current this is not possable.

I suggest that the survivor title be changed so the experiance is counted between deaths and not from 0 deaths. This would allow old tryian chars and any other person who doesnt want to remake their char each time they die to go for it.

I see that anet may not want to do this because some of the achievement of the title would be surviving the levels leading up to lv 20 and this may be harder than actualy farming the rest from lv 20. If what i suggested isnt then possable then why not make the survivor title an account title as apposed to a char title? ie once accuired on one char can be shown accross all and more importantly counts as a maxed title accross all.

Currently i have 4/5 maxed titles towards kind of a big deal and would like to then go for the rumored people know me title. It would help very much if it was possable for me to get the survivor title.

If you agree that this title needs to be changed please support me by leaving your comments.

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Old Oct 26, 2006, 01:18 AM // 01:18   #2
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Agree.
I'm in the same boat as you. Except my warrior is about half way to all those titles, and I don't really want to start again eh. I would say make it a account based title.
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Old Oct 26, 2006, 05:02 PM // 17:02   #3
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I completely agree. It's unfair on those of us that started our characters way way way before this title came out.

Between death makes much more sense.

I don't know about you guys, but I just don't have enough time to start from scratch on a new character.
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Old Oct 26, 2006, 06:44 PM // 18:44   #4
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I'm in the exact same situation as you on my monk... Well, not the exact same situation.. I don't have FoW on my monk, but I do have the materials and money ready. Just hadn't got around to going to the Forgemaster.. But yeah..
It isn't fair on the old characters.
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Old Oct 26, 2006, 07:01 PM // 19:01   #5
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I'm more concerned about my event headgear than by my titles I have maxed out. I can get the titles, but I can never get a Pumpkin helmet again.
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Old Oct 26, 2006, 07:17 PM // 19:17   #6
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Give old characters a one-time death reset.

Legendary Survivor is the only title that involves risk - it is the only title that you can actually fail to get *permanently*. Removing this risk makes it a very different title.
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Old Oct 26, 2006, 07:50 PM // 19:50   #7
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In Fairness:

Change 'Survivor' title? OK, why not change all titles-- i.e. credit the Treasure Hunter /Wisdom titles with EVERY chest opened since account creation? Sucks for us "old timers" not to get credited those extra 1000+ high-end chests opened since 2005. Too bad the "Titles" measure Factions--> and everything since... all Except for that pesky Elite Skills Track. Uh-oh.. <pokes holes in own arguement>

About that Fairness-thing: If we're credited with every single elite skill captured, why not be credited with EVERY "High -End Chest Opened" as well?

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Old Oct 26, 2006, 07:51 PM // 19:51   #8
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Give old characters a one-time death reset. (as Rera said)
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Old Oct 26, 2006, 08:02 PM // 20:02   #9
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You cant reset death, the only way to do it is to rollback (which is impossible). If this is so easy to reset death, those survivors who have been the victims of vizunah death bug can get their death reseted easily (provided proof by mailing Anet support). But the fact is it cant be done .... I know because I was one of the victims Vizunah death bug.
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Old Oct 26, 2006, 08:08 PM // 20:08   #10
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its a nightmare to get for a reason. Those legendary survivors you see out there, you know they worked hard for it...........
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Old Oct 26, 2006, 08:10 PM // 20:10   #11
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I know because I was one of the victims Vizunah death bug.
rofl...thats one of the funniest things I have ever read...did you make it out of the hospital ok? Previous posters are right that part of the survivor title is the one chance of it all. To be honest about it though, if you are 4/5 on titles (guessing both protectors and explorers since those are the easiest), you are not going to get legendary in any practical way. To get a legendary survivor, you really have to cap 120ish skills, do all the factions quests/missions, and some of prophecies. You only hope would be Nightfall offering a similar amount of experience as Factions and it would still be pushing it because you already have the core elites.

Really if you already have that many skills capped and have consciously completed 4/5 titles with the aspirations of the I am a big deal track, you should have just made a new character to begin with.

/notsigned...long live my r3 survivor!
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Old Oct 26, 2006, 08:23 PM // 20:23   #12
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rofl...thats one of the funniest things I have ever read...did you make it out of the hospital ok? Previous posters are right that part of the survivor title is the one chance of it all. To be honest about it though, if you are 4/5 on titles (guessing both protectors and explorers since those are the easiest), you are not going to get legendary in any practical way. To get a legendary survivor, you really have to cap 120ish skills, do all the factions quests/missions, and some of prophecies. You only hope would be Nightfall offering a similar amount of experience as Factions and it would still be pushing it because you already have the core elites.

Really if you already have that many skills capped and have consciously completed 4/5 titles with the aspirations of the I am a big deal track, you should have just made a new character to begin with.

/notsigned...long live my r3 survivor!
WTH maybe you just got out hospital from eye surgery or something? Coz you seem miss my point.

Some people were suggesting to give old characters one-time death reset. I replied to this; it cant be done because once you died XX times it is written in your character information log. I used Vizunah Death bug as example that death CAN NOT be reseted. Many survivors mailed Anet about this death bug but they cant do anything about it.

Of course I got my Legendary Survivor as well.
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Old Oct 26, 2006, 08:36 PM // 20:36   #13
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I can't agree with this because say your magic caster dude dies like a thousands time before getting to lvl 20 that's not much of a survivor there. And then you make a warrior and do some light training to lvl 20, that's just cheesy.
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Old Oct 26, 2006, 08:50 PM // 20:50   #14
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If you can't reset the actual number of deaths, just treat their current death count as 0 for the purpose of survivor title.
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Old Oct 26, 2006, 09:45 PM // 21:45   #15
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I've played since day 1 (in the betas too) and because my character was old, I obviously had deaths when Factions came out, and that prevents me from being able to get the title. I also refuse to start over.
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Old Oct 26, 2006, 09:56 PM // 21:56   #16
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Well, if you gain 20 levels of exp without dying, you SHOULD get the title, even if you died before that survival spree. But what about people who have level 1 and are going to another level? Do they lose the title if they die? Do they have to go back to level 1 when they die? Or do they get frozen as it is currently? or what?
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Old Oct 26, 2006, 10:10 PM // 22:10   #17
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90% (99%?) of legendary survivors get it in a few hours solo farming or sitting back in a faction farm at lutgardis and get the 2k exp every few minutes (or if the party is good every minute!!)

Survivor is a joke title really, I think it's pretty stupid the way it is. I mean sure, you can be that 1-10% that got it through brilliant thinking, luck, and creativity, but whats the point when you know everyone else got it through solo farm or being door master at lutgardis observatory farm
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Old Oct 26, 2006, 10:14 PM // 22:14   #18
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It isn't a "few hours" of soloing, it is a LOT of hours, and a LOT of boring grind to do it. Of all the Legendary Survivors I know, none of them got it from being afk or solely by soloing.
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Old Oct 26, 2006, 10:19 PM // 22:19   #19
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Instead of changing survivor, create a survivor equlivalant title that resets the amount of exp you need every time you die, but you can still get it after you die and keep it (or improve it) if you do.


And ref is right, it takes a heckuva long time to farm that kind of XP.
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Old Oct 26, 2006, 10:20 PM // 22:20   #20
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you've never been to lutgardis. there's a LOT, a WHOLE LOT of legendary survivors who got it that way. And its not rly for solo farming, just go farm trolls. Not that you can do it anymore, but you could very easily get the title that way, 10 trolls and a minor exp scroll give more exp than you think.

Oh and the levels 1-20 part of survivor is the easy part actually (I'm a survivor I know ^^).

Run town A- run town B etc.. get kaineng armor. Then redo go back and do everything

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