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Shayne Hawke · Oct 23, 2007, 02:49 AM // 02:49

The Gamer title is a PvP title. Why doesn't it increase the faction cap for Balthazar faction?

I want to implement the same system as Gladiator or Champion on this: Every rank = 5k higher on your faction cap.

Onarik Amrak · Oct 23, 2007, 03:57 AM // 03:57

I don't see why not. Not that max faction is a big deal anyway.

Seraphim of Chaos · Oct 23, 2007, 04:20 AM // 04:20

Gamer is definitely not on the same level as Gladiator, much less Champion. It's a mini-game, it's not going to be taken seriously.

Yawgmoth · Oct 23, 2007, 07:30 AM // 07:30

The gamer title is a PvP title, true.
Also, playing those minigames can earn you a lot of Balth Faction.
But still this title is very different from the others, it's seasonal and is based on havily grinding the very same thing over and over. It was probably added to be a "fun" title, not something serious.

But anyway, first, there has to be an actual USE for all that faction and the potentially awesome thing that is the increasing faction cap. There's absolutely no use for them, so such a change wouldn't make any difference.

Likelytodie · Oct 23, 2007, 10:44 AM // 10:44

The gamer title isn't so much a pvp title as it is an account-based title. The method of pvp you get it through doesn't really constitute extra balth cap (which is really insignificant anyway, now I have somewhere to put all the extra balth I won't use, hooray.)

If you did this, you would also arguably have to make Kurzick/Luxon titles increase balth faction as well

/not-signed because it really isn't needed

Kanyatta · Oct 23, 2007, 03:42 PM // 15:42

Are you trying to throw it out there that "Skill required to get Gamer Title = Skill required to get Champ Title"? Its just a fun minigame for the holidays, its not serious pvp or anything

/notsigned

Shayne Hawke · Oct 24, 2007, 01:54 AM // 01:54

I don't recall myself saying anything along the lines of Gamer equaling Champion or Gladiator in terms of skill. Each of those three titles mentioned requires different forms of gameplay, so I don't even know how you can begin to assume that.

I said that I wanted the system to be put in place like the Gladiator and Champion titles in that every rank earns you 5k higher of a faction cap.

Also, who's to say that people playing the festival games aren't trying to get faction? Increasing the faction cap through this title will enable players like those to play longer without risk of wasting faction. And if future rewards are implemented that require more than the standard max 10k faction, the Gamer Title can help players get that extra max distance that they may want.

This does not fit the Kurzick/Luxon titles, because those titles are also well earned through PvE. As I recall, the quickest methods for gaining faction for each side are accessed through PvE.

Ekelon · Oct 24, 2007, 02:15 AM // 02:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke

The Gamer title is a PvP title. Why doesn't it increase the faction cap for Balthazar faction?

Err, the Gamer title IS NOT a PvP title. It is a mini-game title (that just happens to involve other players, but that doesn't necessarily make it PvP, at least by the general PvPer's definition). Just because the title is account-based does not make it a PvP title. And I have r5 gamer title (Uber Micro Skillz), so don't say I don't know anything about the Gamer title.

On a side note, for some people, having a higher faction cap seems to give them an ego boost. I would say though, that most people who have 50k+ faction cap are already UAX'ed, so it's not like they spend faction on anything but tourney tokens. Basically, what I'm saying, is that higher faction cap does not really matter.

Div · Oct 24, 2007, 02:39 AM // 02:39

Why would BF cap even matter anymore? And the gamer title is a stupid title.

lishi · Oct 24, 2007, 11:58 AM // 11:58

/not signed

instead change their name.

i want rank 3 so i will be able to display it on monument, but i like "pro skillz" much better then "mad skillz"

Longasc · Oct 24, 2007, 02:48 PM // 14:48

I would rather suggest the removal of many rubbish titles, gamer being one of them.

HawkofStorms · Oct 24, 2007, 05:42 PM // 17:42

/notsigned
Gamer is a silly title anyway.

Pogrim The Crusader · Oct 26, 2007, 04:36 AM // 04:36

I really don't see why not. the title takes Forever to achieve, and there really isnt much of an insentive to achieve it. It's clearly player vs player and heck, an extra 2000 balth faction would be kinda nice, and really doesn't negatively impact anyone. I don't understand all the bashing of this. Rank 1 of this title takes longer, and is far more frustrating and agitating to obtain than it takes to get rank 2 of the almighty hero track.

Pogrim The Crusader · Oct 26, 2007, 04:38 AM // 04:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longasc

I would rather suggest the removal of many rubbish titles, gamer being one of them.

Is guild wars a job for you? Do you play it to not have fun? What constitutes a 'rubbish title?' Something you don't have? Yeah lets get rid of all of the unleet titles that anyone of any skill level can achieve. Bad anet for making something that people who arent pros can achieve!!!

IslandHermet · Oct 26, 2007, 12:00 PM // 12:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yawgmoth

The gamer title is a PvP title, true.
Also, playing those minigames can earn you a lot of Balth Faction.
But still this title is very different from the others, it's seasonal and is based on havily grinding the very same thing over and over. It was probably added to be a "fun" title, not something serious.

But anyway, first, there has to be an actual USE for all that faction and the potentially awesome thing that is the increasing faction cap. There's absolutely no use for them, so such a change wouldn't make any difference.

of course it is a fun title (SKILLZ) lol I love it, uber Skillz, Num chuck skillz LOL gotta love them
it is Anets way of slanging up the titles. Word you got Mad Skillz dog. LOL

MithranArkanere · Oct 26, 2007, 03:21 PM // 15:21

Gamer is not an 'anytime' title.
It should give no reward unless they add a way to increase it anytime.

Shayne Hawke · Oct 28, 2008, 07:17 PM // 19:17

Revival for relevance.

Orange Milk · Oct 28, 2008, 08:05 PM // 20:05

I fail to see any relevance.

Nothing has changed since the last time everyone "/not signed" this thread.

/not signed

Konig Des Todes · Oct 28, 2008, 08:05 PM // 20:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke

The Gamer title is a PvP title.

Eh, I disagree. While all ways to get Gamer is against players, it's not really on the same level due to it's rarity of getting points.

Although I wouldn't mind it giving Balthazar Faction raises.

I need more then 10k Balth faction for my DA/CB streaks. And I don't PvP other ways.

so, I'll /sign.

HawkofStorms · Oct 28, 2008, 09:00 PM // 21:00

I'm actually changing my vote on this after a few months of thought.
It isn't like max faction is important or something you can show off. It doesn't negatively impact anybody to do this. If anybody who has a high faction cap feels like this "deminishes" something they can just play costume brawl for a few days too.