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Old Jan 14, 2012, 12:57 AM // 00:57   #1
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Default Deldrimor Armor Pieces in the HoM

I know it doesn't go into the HoM because it's not a full "set" but I think this should be rectified. It costs as much as the Norn, Asuran or Vanguard armors and you have the same ranking requirements to forge it as you do with the others.

As it's not a full "set" I'm not looking for the "rules" of the HoM to be bent for it, I'm looking for it to be bought in line with the rest of the pieces.

I think ANet should come out with the remaining pieces of the armor set in an update which once you've forged the extra and have the whole set (or if you're forging it for the first time, have forged the whole set), you can put in your HoM to count towards prestige armor because that's exactly what Deldrimor pieces are - they're prestige.

At present unless you're a completionist (as I am unfortunately) there is no game reward beyond the skin itself to going to the effort of forging these prestige armor pieces. It's common to see people complain about having spent the resources to forge it only to realise it counts for nothing. A common gripe is "if I'd known I'd have spent the gold on Norn / Asura / Vanguard instead".
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Old Jan 14, 2012, 02:05 AM // 02:05   #2
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I craft deldrimor BECAUSE they cannot be added to Hom I feel it makes them special and different and I feel good knowing I am wearing them not because I needed them for some bs reward. they are their own reward.
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Old Jan 14, 2012, 02:31 AM // 02:31   #3
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A common gripe is "if I'd known I'd have spent the gold on Norn / Asura / Vanguard instead".
No, just no!

Oh and let those who gripe, learn the lesson of bothering to check things before they wade in boots and all, good little life lesson there.
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Old Jan 14, 2012, 03:55 AM // 03:55   #4
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These are separate pieces, the HoM requires full sets to display... Can't add the common head and hand gear either. These are not intended to go together. Sorry but no dice. People can't complain if they didn't bother to check.
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Old Jan 14, 2012, 04:14 AM // 04:14   #5
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These are separate pieces, the HoM requires full sets to display... Can't add the common head and hand gear either.
Did you read the post? I *know* you can't add them because they're not a full set. It's one of the first things I said.I also know lots of people fail to read and then complain afterwards. Yes, that is their fault.

I got the items because I'm a completionist, but I wish that they would kit out a full set for that very reason - I'm a completionist and this feels unfinished with half sets and some classes getting more of the set than others. If it gets completed it's a bonus that it can go into the HoM along with the rest of the prestige gear it is equivalent with.
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Old Jan 14, 2012, 08:10 AM // 08:10   #6
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it would be nice if they completed the sets (there is only a few gloves to finish up---since headgear isnt a requirement).....

that said
I bought the dwarf pieces to complement other pieces---not because they could or couldnot be added to something that had almost no relevance to my current game play---I am playing guild wars because I enjoy it, NOT to have something in a game that has yet to be released.
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Old Jan 14, 2012, 09:15 AM // 09:15   #7
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i'd say, sure, let em somehow make it possible

i dont care about my HoM anymore, as its over 30/50 anyway, but it'd be a good thing to have if you like it, whether its about having in your HoM only, or both in HoM and on your char

kinda feels complete too, having asura, norn, deld and vanguard armors in HoM

so i guess i agree with it just as matter of completion
and so what if others just want it to have more in HoM? thats not my problem

ps. i dont even have 1 deld armor, just cuz i prefer others on my chars, same to obsidian armor
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Old Jan 14, 2012, 10:06 AM // 10:06   #8
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If price (comparable to that of most sets in EoTN) is the problem, than lower the price a bit. Then again, it won't happen now.

Each piece is labelled indipendently, so it always seemed clear enough to me that those were separate pieces and not a set. Still, not being a "full" set - most professions don't even have enough pieces to qualify it as a set, let alone full - looks like a damn good reason to me...
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Old Jan 14, 2012, 10:07 AM // 10:07   #9
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Personally, this wouldn't effect me. I'm not fond of the deldrimor armor, but I don't think they should change it. As people have already said, if they don't bother to check, then they don't have the right to gripe.

But, thinking about it, I have no idea why it was made like it is now. Kinda silly really, having the other 3 good for HoM. But, I stick by my original statement.
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Old Jan 14, 2012, 11:02 AM // 11:02   #10
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/signed (but i dont think it is going to happen)

- 5 out of 10 professions do have a complete set (headgear is never a requirement).

Example for monk:
* Deldrimor armor has 4 armorpieces but is considered not complete.
* Obsidian armor has the same 4 armorpieces and is considered complete?

This really doesnt make sense to me.

- To craft Deldrimor armor you must need similar requirements as for Asura, Vanguard and Norn armor (R5 title)

- The price of Deldrimor armor is the same as for Asura, Vanguard and Norn armor (10k a piece plus materials)

- Somehow they "forgot" to make 5 extra gloves (ranger, mesmer, ritualist, paragon and dervish). Personally i think they were running out of time, but is that enough reason to consider all Deldrimor armor as incomplete? Maybe they should add the 5 missing gloves or consider one of the special EotN gloves as part of Dedrimor armor to complete the set.
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Old Jan 14, 2012, 11:29 AM // 11:29   #11
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At present unless you're a completionist (as I am unfortunately) there is no game reward beyond the skin itself to going to the effort of forging these prestige armor pieces. It's common to see people complain about having spent the resources to forge it only to realise it counts for nothing. A common gripe is "if I'd known I'd have spent the gold on Norn / Asura / Vanguard instead".
Usually one buys an armor cause he likes the skin, and likes wearing it. Isn't it the reward itself?
At least what's left on deldrimor set is you only buy that if you like it, not "to count for something". Sigh, where did the starter idea that stats are all the same so you have people only clothed following their personal taste? Gone the day they invented super expensive armors and even more with hom.

Rant apart, I agree instead that it would be nice if they completed the sets, but in the current state of the game I don't really see it happen.
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Old Jan 14, 2012, 04:50 PM // 16:50   #12
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The Deldrimor pieces are complimentary pieces for other sets of armor OP. They go along with different sets and give them a different look.
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Old Jan 14, 2012, 05:47 PM // 17:47   #13
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Did you read the post? I *know* you can't add them because they're not a full set. It's one of the first things I said.I also know lots of people fail to read and then complain afterwards. Yes, that is their fault.

I got the items because I'm a completionist, but I wish that they would kit out a full set for that very reason - I'm a completionist and this feels unfinished with half sets and some classes getting more of the set than others. If it gets completed it's a bonus that it can go into the HoM along with the rest of the prestige gear it is equivalent with.
Did you read what I wrote? THEY AREN'T SETS. Thats like saying, well, I have this one piece of Obby... but i wear it with this other set, I should get a monument because I like it. As for the "I'm a completionist" BS, by buying deldrimore pieces you shot yourself in the foot, there is nothing complete about them. Its great that you want to own everything, but that doesn't mean you get to display everything in your HoM. Do you have EVERY Mini in the Game? guess what, they can all be added to the HoM. There are plenty of weapons I love, that cannot be added to the HoM, nor do I expect them to be added.

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Old Jan 14, 2012, 08:01 PM // 20:01   #14
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IMO, not calling it a set is just a lame excuse for [insert reason here]... 50% are just missing the gloves, the rest are complete.
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Old Jan 14, 2012, 08:09 PM // 20:09   #15
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A full set is composed by at least 4 armor pieces (excluding head) with a matching design.

Deldrimor pieces are not always 4, and do not always fit the same design.
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Old Jan 14, 2012, 10:28 PM // 22:28   #16
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Did you read what I wrote? THEY AREN'T SETS. Thats like saying, well, I have this one piece of Obby... but i wear it with this other set, I should get a monument because I like it.
Yeah, you clearly failed to comprehend anything I said. Maybe before you dive in, in future you should actually read what you're responding to so that you understand it first. I will however waste my time clarifying for you once more in a nice and clear little cliffs notes form of dot points from the first post that you never read properly and if you still don't get it after that, then I give up on your reading skills.

- I KNOW IT IS NOT A COMPLETE SET.

- I KNOW BECAUSE OF THIS IT CANNOT BE ADDED IN ITS PRESENT FORM.

- I AM NOT ASKING FOR THE ABILITY TO ADD IT WHEN I KNOW IT IS NOT COMPLETE.

- I AM ASKING FOR IT TO BE COMPLETED BY ANET SO THAT IT WILL THEN BE A PROPER FULL SET ALL BY ITSELF.


*gasp* wait you mean I'm not actually expecting to be able to hack together multiple armors and still have it count?! no adding other armor pieces available to it to make it look like a full set?! OH NOES! why, it's almost as though you think I'm talking about something completely different to what I posted?! also as an aside, when I say I'm a completionist I mean I want to collect everything that is available for my class in the game so the only bullshit around here is from your direction.

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Old Jan 14, 2012, 11:56 PM // 23:56   #17
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Yeah, you clearly failed to comprehend anything I said. Maybe before you dive in, in future you should actually read what you're responding to so that you understand it first. I will however waste my time clarifying for you once more in a nice and clear little cliffs notes form of dot points from the first post that you never read properly and if you still don't get it after that, then I give up on your reading skills.

- I KNOW IT IS NOT A COMPLETE SET.

- I KNOW BECAUSE OF THIS IT CANNOT BE ADDED IN ITS PRESENT FORM.

- I AM NOT ASKING FOR THE ABILITY TO ADD IT WHEN I KNOW IT IS NOT COMPLETE.

- I AM ASKING FOR IT TO BE COMPLETED BY ANET SO THAT IT WILL THEN BE A PROPER FULL SET ALL BY ITSELF.

*gasp* wait you mean I'm not actually expecting to be able to hack together multiple armors and still have it count?! no adding other armor pieces available to it to make it look like a full set?! OH NOES! why, it's almost as though you think I'm talking about something completely different to what I posted?! also as an aside, when I say I'm a completionist I mean I want to collect everything that is available for my class in the game so the only bullshit around here is from your direction.
oh you mean you only want devs to spend time making a set for each individual piece so you can feel as though you have everything... You may well top the absolute dumbest suggestions I have ever seen in this forum. Apparently making a full set of armor for each unmatched piece seems like an easy and valid suggestion... Wow... Just wow...
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Old Jan 15, 2012, 01:34 AM // 01:34   #18
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Technically, the only actual 'Deldrimor armor' would be the Silver Eagle armor.

As much as I'd love to see every single armor set completed for all professions (e.g: Paragon and dervish elite luxon and kurzick armor) it seems that making models takes resources from GW2, which currently limits them to things like models for heroes(e.g: Keiran's short hair), some new NPCs (e.g: Peacekeeper Enforcers) and costumes.
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Old Jan 15, 2012, 10:05 AM // 10:05   #19
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chaos gloves could complete the set :P
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