Curse

melissa b · Jan 29, 2012, 08:33 PM // 20:33

Basic Concept

Introducing a new elite armor with a nice challenge element to obtain. This new elite armor called Ectoplasmic Armor will challenge you not only in pve but also pvp to show you have what it takes to master the game in both aspects. You will need to complete several challenging areas throughout the game in hard mode, gather lots of ectos, and play through lots of various types of pvp. You will be doing this to gather parts necessary for the armor crafter to build your new armor.

These parts will be bound to your account so they will not be tradable, droppable, or allow for any method for them to be transferred to another account. These parts consist of two categories, battered pieces and tokens. The battered pieces are earned through difficult pve battles and the tokens are awarded through pvp battles.

Once you gather your parts you make one last battle in the Underworld and have your armor set crafted at a npc. The npc will have a challenging spawning requirement that prevents a player from simply buying a run! The new ectoplasmic armor will be very rewarding because it will be both beautiful to the eye and also symbolic of your victories. Details on obtaining the parts as follows…

Battered Pieces

Battered Chest Piece Left Side – Obtained for free from Spirit of the Domain Of Anguish, spawns at death of Mallyx in Hard Mode
Battered Chest Piece Right Side – Obtained for free from Spirit of Slayer’s Exile, spawns at death of Duncan the Black in hard mode
Battered Head Piece – Obtained for free from Spirit of Sorrows Furnace, Spawns at destruction of The Iron Forgeman in hard mode
Batttered Left Arm Piece – Obtained for free from Spirit of Urgoz Warren, spawns at death of Urgoz in Hard Mode
Battered Right Arm Piece – Obtained for free from Spirit of the Deep , spawns at death of Kanaxii in Hard Mode
Battered Right Foot Piece – Obtained for free from Spirit of the Ruins of the Tomb of the primeval king, spawns upon killing all of three of the darknesses in hard mode
Battered Left Foot Piece – Obtained for free from Spirit of the Fissure of Woe, spawns upon completing all quests in hard mode

Tokens

Champion’s Token – 1 awarded for each Guild vs. Guild Victory
Hero’s Token – 1 awarded for each hall of heroes Victory
Codex Token – 1 awarded for the first Codex Victory after the first
Gladiator’s Token – 1 awarded for the first Random Arena victory after the first
Luxon’s Token – 1 awarded for each Alliance Battle as a Luxon
Kurzick’s Token – 1 awarded for each Alliance Battle as a Kurzick

Armor Crafting Requirements

Spirit of the Underworld Armor Crafter – Spawns upon Defeating Dhuum in Hardmode but only if you are in an all hero party! This extra challenge will ensure that you have what it takes all by yourself and prevent you from simply buying a run!!!
Ectoplasmic Head Piece – 250 Ectos, 5 Champion’s Tokens, Battered Head Piece, 20 Platinum
Ectoplasmic Chest Piece – 250 Ectos, 5 Hero’s Tokens, Battered Chest Piece Left Side, Battered Chest Piece Right Side, 20 Platinum
Ectoplasmic Arm Set-250 Ectos, 10 Codex Tokens, Battered Left Arm Piece, Battered Right Arm Piece, 20 Platinum
Ectoplasmic Foot Set- 250 Ectos, 15 Luxon Tokens, 15 Kurzick Tokens, Battered Left Foot Piece, Battered Right Foot Piece, 20 Platinum
Ectoplasmic Legging Piece -25 Gladiator’s Tokens, 250 Ectos, Battered Legging Set, 20 Platinum

Coast · Jan 29, 2012, 09:00 PM // 21:00

seems pretty cheap and fast to get that armor
1thing I wonder: how ur supposed to beat dhuum if the whole party is heroes are ur not a hero urself

Mordiego · Jan 29, 2012, 09:05 PM // 21:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coast

... ur not a hero urself

well... I am

on topic: they are one year late with haloween 2010 quests finale, 6 yrs late with Paragon update, they still haven't released WoC pt 3 and U expect them to design anything other the costumes? LMAO

Olle · Jan 29, 2012, 09:11 PM // 21:11

I did read, and my answer is still no.
Reasons:
They wount add any new armor.
We dont need another gold sinc/ grind.

Doing UW with heroes takes of the whole concept of Guild Wars.
armor costs 100k, if you pay 1k fee to get into UW, you need to gain 1k to pay for armor.

and theres much much more reasons, and this is probably the 9000+ thread made about this.

` Marshmallow · Jan 29, 2012, 09:12 PM // 21:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cuilan

I'm not even in a guild to do GvG.

I wouldn't even want to do UW with heroes even if it were easy.

Requires too much ecto for most players.

I really want items or rewards that you can earn instead of just simply buying, too, but this is silly.

Aren't you earning the token thingies though ?_? and wouldnt they just be un-tradeable?

But still, no :c I don't think GW1 is going to get any new armors anytime soon o: (or ever again lol)

Zylo16 · Jan 29, 2012, 09:39 PM // 21:39

Summary:
step 1. grind
step 2. grind
step 3. grind
step 4. grind
step 5. grind
step 6. repeats steps 1-5 X 10
step 7. Elitism.

yay

WarcryOfTruth · Jan 29, 2012, 09:51 PM // 21:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Olle

I did read, and my answer is still no.
Reasons:
They wount add any new armor.
We dont need another gold sinc/ grind.

Doing UW with heroes takes of the whole concept of Guild Wars.
armor costs 100k, if you pay 1k fee to get into UW, you need to gain 1k to pay for armor.

and theres much much more reasons, and this is probably the 9000+ thread made about this.

Actually Olle, you pay 1k to get in, and after beating Dhuum, hand in The Nightman Cometh, and your 1k is reimbursed

Olle · Jan 29, 2012, 09:53 PM // 21:53

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Originally Posted by WarcryOfTruth

Actually Olle, you pay 1k to get in, and after beating Dhuum, hand in The Nightman Cometh, and your 1k is reimbursed

Got me on this one.....

(;

melissa b · Jan 29, 2012, 09:56 PM // 21:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coast

seems pretty cheap and fast to get that armor
1thing I wonder: how ur supposed to beat dhuum if the whole party is heroes are ur not a hero urself

Its yourself and 7 heroes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Olle

I did read, and my answer is still no.
Reasons:
They wount add any new armor.
We dont need another gold sinc/ grind.

Doing UW with heroes takes of the whole concept of Guild Wars.
armor costs 100k, if you pay 1k fee to get into UW, you need to gain 1k to pay for armor.

and theres much much more reasons, and this is probably the 9000+ thread made about this.

Excuse my confusion about your reading after your wrote TLDR. Only 1 part is with heroes the rest can be players and the pvp aspect requires players. The 1 hero part is just a challenging test. For the 100k + Entrance Cost just use a scroll.
9000+ Thread? Show me a link to a thread about Armor Challenge! This thread is more about the method to get armor, the new armor is just secondary to the main idea.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mordiego

well... I am

on topic: they are one year late with haloween 2010 quests finale, 6 yrs late with Paragon update, they still haven't released WoC pt 3 and U expect them to design anything other the costumes? LMAO

The challenge itself would need a small amount of coding, yes the armor itself might take some time to make!

Quote:

Originally Posted by ` Marshmallow

Aren't you earning the token thingies though ?_? and wouldnt they just be un-tradeable?

But still, no :c I don't think GW1 is going to get any new armors anytime soon o: (or ever again lol)

This will be challenging so a lot of players would not be able to obtain it. This is more for players that have mastering everything and want a new challenge or want a way to display what they have done!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zylo16

Summary:
step 1. grind
step 2. grind
step 3. grind
step 4. grind
step 5. grind
step 6. repeats steps 1-5 X 10
step 7. Elitism.

yay

By diversifying the challenge its not very grindy. As a whole it requires a lot of work but its not really repetitive. You do each elite area once unless you lose. You only do a few battles from each pvp type (unless you keep losing).

Briar Lore · Jan 29, 2012, 10:15 PM // 22:15

It is an incredible amount of grind that would serve absolutely no purpose except to give the top 2% of gw players more epeen.
1250 ecto (around 10 million gold) and 100k for a single set of armor + tokens and you don't consider that grind? The time it would take slowly making that money (sc, powertrading, etc) for that money wouldn't be considered grind to you?

bleh · Jan 29, 2012, 10:20 PM // 22:20

Like the Idea, just not the method.

Personally i miss the days where 70% warriors wore gladiators armour because you couldn't inscribe any armour with any Bonus.
It sucked for Variety but was better than the current setup IMO (only 1-2 usable inscriptions and any skin, its not a challenge...)

I'd like some simpler method of adding "Uniqueness" to keep some interest.
I would suggest sonething like...:

Using current Armour art and:

Either adding different "Texture" or Dyeable Area to existing art.
(e.g. 2 Variants of Exotic armour 1 normal, 1 w/ reversed dyeable area)

Allowing Cross-class armour art. Assasin/dervish/ranger could all be interchangable (not fully only "semi").
Monk/ele/nec/mes/rit ect armour art could be mingled a little.
Dervish need this :P (only 2-3 ok... looking skins(dresses)) not even worth making the char for me.

Customization is one of the biggest things that draws me to games, this one included.
I would love to have more armour art to choose from. When i make a new character i Always check WIKI for the armour art then choose my class and gender according to my favourite :P.

So yeah i think more Variety but less ELITE GRIND.
I'd rather grind for 2-3 more different "normal" armours than 1 pro elite one..... worth nothing but looks.

KotCR · Jan 30, 2012, 12:26 AM // 00:26

More collectibles clogging up my storage? No TY.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mordiego

on topic: they are one year late with haloween 2010 quests finale, 6 yrs late with Paragon update, they still haven't released WoC pt 3 and U expect them to design anything other the costumes? LMAO

I lol'd. Sad but true.
Six years with Paragon update in particular. Sounds really bad lol.

Elnino · Jan 30, 2012, 01:20 AM // 01:20

Yes, gathering 1250 ectos ain't a grind for the average player.

/notsigned for obvious reasons

Also, I'm fairly certain that PvP doesn't need another reason to be exploited.

melissa b · Jan 30, 2012, 01:57 AM // 01:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Briar Lore

It is an incredible amount of grind that would serve absolutely no purpose except to give the top 2% of gw players more epeen.
1250 ecto (around 10 million gold) and 100k for a single set of armor + tokens and you don't consider that grind? The time it would take slowly making that money (sc, powertrading, etc) for that money wouldn't be considered grind to you?

Sure some will want to do this to show off, just like any high-end item attracts that element, others may want to do this for a challenge, something new to go for, or to have their first new armor skin in a long time. Aquiring 1250 ectos from scratch would be a grind for sure! So, yeah new players on the block will have some work to go. However, the type of player this is targeted at is probably sitting on stacks of ectos with nothing to spend them on. For them its just a simple remove from storage transfer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KotCR

More collectibles clogging up my storage? No TY.

I lol'd. Sad but true.
Six years with Paragon update in particular. Sounds really bad lol.

Collectibles will be deletable, no big deal really. Plus you will have to have the quest active for them to be awarded anyway. I forgot to mention that in my first post. The quest will be given by an npc at GTOB!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elnino

Yes, gathering 1250 ectos ain't a grind for the average player.

/notsigned for obvious reasons

Also, I'm fairly certain that PvP doesn't need another reason to be exploited.

For the average player it probably is a grind to get 1,250 ectos, however this is designed to be a difficult challenge for the above-average player.

Also, PVP does need another reason to be exploited, for obvious reasons!

Hint! Try getting an alliance battles match or codex match consistently day-to-day!

Pre Warrior Dude · Jan 30, 2012, 02:05 AM // 02:05

Didn't read it but the tokens would be synced without a doubt

Elnino · Jan 30, 2012, 02:47 AM // 02:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by melissa b

For the average player it probably is a grind to get 1,250 ectos, however this is designed to be a difficult challenge for the above-average player.

Also, PVP does need another reason to be exploited, for obvious reasons!

Hint! Try getting an alliance battles match or codex match consistently day-to-day!

Your idea wouldn't change a thing then.

Above average players (money-wise) are a minority, they wouldn't be able to boost any activity whatsoever in PvP. Even if your idea targets the average player, gathering those tokens will be done by syncing and only syncing. Remember RR day?

Lanier · Jan 30, 2012, 05:07 AM // 05:07

This is an awful idea for a couple of reasons.

1. I feel as though any armor made of ectoplasm would look really ugly.

2. The cost is rediculous. What is the point of making an armor that only the grind-enjoying farmers/SCers or powertraders could afford? Average players like myself don't have ectos just lying around.

I'm all for introducing new armor skins, but these ideas that have been thrown around recently have been horrible (I am also referencing the recent full chaos armor suggestion). If the team that makes costumes is going to make more armor skins, make ones that look normalish but still cool, and make them the same price as the other non-obby elite armors.

By the way, when I say "normalish but still cool", I'm referring to armors that aren't all sparkly or glittery, but still have a cool look to them. I like to use the champion's armor set from dragon age 2 as an example, since its probably the best looking armor among any of the rpg's that I play.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mHNA1CW4DA...pion%2Bset.png

You see, it doesn't glow or look like its made out of shiny light. Its just a nice looking armor thats made out of basic materials.

But this is all beside the point. My primary objection to this suggestion is the rediculous price. If anet is going to add more skins to the game, they should not do something stupid by adding another envoyesque weapon/armor that only the super rich can afford.

Veldan · Jan 30, 2012, 08:38 AM // 08:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by melissa b

Nice idea, but I think it could be improved like this:

1. remove the ecto cost. If you want an armor set that requires great prestations (doing all the hard areas in hard mode) then that should be enough, you shouldn't also introduce insane grind to get the ectos

2. split the set in 3 sets. PvE is very different from GvG/HA/codex and that is again very different from AB/JQ/FA/RA. I would make different sets for these very different gameplay modes, because most people don't enjoy all 3.

cormac ap dunn · Jan 30, 2012, 09:03 AM // 09:03

As has been mentioned before, this is a terrible idea. Not only has this idea been presented before, but isn't there enough epeen in the game? Add to this, there is a laundry list of other things the Live Team has slated. I doubt the idea of even more crap grind, Epeen induced, obnoxiousness takes precedence over the scads of other things they have yet to finish. As for getting these tokens, THIS may be the worst of the ideas... PvP is already damaged enough, I doubt adding a bunch of people notorious for finding a way to cheat the system will help... Syncing/resigning is already prolific enough without the addition of people only there to get some more trophy crap.

Mintha Syl · Jan 30, 2012, 09:18 AM // 09:18

I agree with most. We sure don't need another prestige item just for few, if they were to make other armors they should be avalaible to everyone. I think obsidian was a damn stupid idea anyway (and the fact that people wears it despite looking ugly just cause of its price). And yeah, forcing people into pvp for that won't make it more lively but rather more exploited, so even worse.