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Devil's Dictionary · Mar 01, 2005, 04:46 PM // 16:46

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Originally Posted by thegriffgeeks

you edited out that you are 17....however I believe it is significant because Cicciro was accusing us of fearing youth. That means you'd have to be afraid of yourself

This is significant

I for one am glad you have also agreed w/ our experiences. Thank you.

I am not.
I do not hide my age. If you look in my profile, you may see the year I was born in. I am what I am and see no reason to be ashamed of it. However I find this bit to be irrelevant as this is not Counter-Strike.
If you think it is important, I guess I was wrong to edit it off, then.
Cheers!

"They call us problem child
We spend our lives on trial
We walk an endless mile
We are the youth gone wild
We stand and we won't fall
We're the one and one for all
The writing's on the wall
We are the youth gone wild"
-- Skid Row, "Youth Gone Wild"

Cicciro · Mar 01, 2005, 04:56 PM // 16:56

You find immature scum everywhere, no need to blame the youth. Please leave flawed and misguided arguements at the door. There will be a collection bin for you to stick them in, and many arrows and bright flashing signs leading you to that box.

thegriffgeeks · Mar 01, 2005, 06:05 PM // 18:05

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Originally Posted by DEATH AT THE DOOR

If you think it is important

important because it was suggested that you/we're scared of the youths...you ARE a youth!

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Originally Posted by DEATH AT THE DOOR

Cheers!

absolutely! hope to see you out there!

Dreamsmith · Mar 01, 2005, 06:19 PM // 18:19

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Originally Posted by Nova

WELL, ITS JUST NOT NATURAL FOR SOMETHING NOT TO BLEED!

Yes. It's also not natural to be unable to simply step over a fence that don't even come to your waist and having to go around it. It's not natural to end a fight with your hair as perfectly styled as it was when you started. It's not natural for every woman on the planet to have breast implants. The game is full of missing details. All games are, and always will be until we all have on our desktops machines a that are thousands of times more powerful than today's supercomputer clusters. Deal with it...

It's not a question of whether it's natural or a missing detail. It's a question of, since you absolutely must leave many many details out of any game that can run on todays computers, which do you choose to leave out vs. which do you keep? I see no reason to blood any higher on the priority list. Certainly not ahead of stepping over the fence...

RANGER75 · Mar 01, 2005, 07:15 PM // 19:15

I really dont think a bit of gore added would affect anyone or the overall rating of the game. If anything it would add to the realism and immersion into the game. If its to cutsey it may be mistake for that final something game.

Lakonian · Mar 02, 2005, 11:56 PM // 23:56

I expressed my feelings in a haiku

Blood and guts are cool.
How about bloody footsteps?
My Grandma loves gore

comon guys my grandma even likes gore quit being such pansies.

Dannzzigg · Mar 03, 2005, 02:23 AM // 02:23

Chalk me up as another vote for "no gore".

I just don't see the point. Speaking only for myself, gore of any kind, whether it is limited to quick splashes or an all-out sensory assault ala Mortal Kombat, doesn't add anything appealing to a game. Perhaps others feel differently, but I would ask: Would you choose to NOT buy a game because it did not have gore? I think the answer would be no. A lack of gore would not prevent someone from buying the game.

On the other hand, ask yourself another question: Would including gore prevent people from buying the game? I speculate that the answer would certainly be: Yes.

For me, the important thing is the succesful sales of the game, granting Anet the continuing ability to provide updates, expansions and support. Crimping their sales in any way only lessens the chances of GW being a long-standing succesful franchise that I hope it will become.

Devil's Dictionary · Mar 03, 2005, 03:16 AM // 03:16

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Originally Posted by Whosa Skylore

you act like everyone under 17/16 has to be a complete idiot, ever think that other people that are younger are actually smart? sorry it just pisses me off how you talk about -16 r olds as evil things, instead why dont you acctualy think as everyone diffrent? not every kid is gonna be an idiot and "immature scum" open your eyes a little, not everyone is the same, sterio types tick me off cuse i live in kentucky and the ifrst questions i allways get asked are "do you wear shoes" "do you live on a farm" "do you grow tabacoo" RAR! lol, well just think alittle about how everyone is diffrent, maybe ull learn something

Actually he said "immature scum" and not "people under 16". You can be 26 and still be immature.
I suggest you to re-read my argument with Cicciro.

Whosa Skylore · Mar 03, 2005, 03:49 AM // 03:49

well, i got the part of -16 from "then we could live in a modle 17+ society" and the thing that i dont like is i feel if i told him i was 13 (witch i am) than he wouldnt care about any comments after that, he would not bother to read them, i would allways be an "immature scum" and never another person :/ might just be me

Nova · Mar 03, 2005, 05:40 AM // 05:40

...you guys aren't etting my point..... I love getting lost in the fantasy liek its real. Why you guys so freakin' critical? God, you guys love killing people's joy?

Not cool... anyway...

Most of people on this forum are very intelligent and have goood things to say. I am glad I am not surrounded by idiots!

"I knew it! I'm surrounded by assholes! *Shuts helmet* "Keep firing Assholes!

Whosa Skylore · Mar 04, 2005, 01:47 AM // 01:47

riiiiiiiight....well you can get lost in a game to the point you feal its real, but if you get lost in guild wars your getting lost in a fantasy world, and no one here is a fun killer.....at least i dont think. but what theyre saying is the game isnt real its fantasy and, if you want to you can belive that your there, but not on earth like on a fantasy world (or i think thats what they mean). and we arnt critiacle, this is like an argument, where you argue about stating your point, so dont take anything TO seriously.

Galatea Orea · Mar 04, 2005, 02:49 AM // 02:49

Nah. It really doesn't need it at all. What kind of blood does a Charr have anyway? I remember when Sacred came out and the American edition was goreless. The howl was incredible, the threads on how to get gore into the game endless. Anyway, Sacred needed gore to spiff it up a bit and improve the battle scenes. This game doesn't need it. Truth to tell, I didn't even realize there wasn't any. I'm always just so damn glad when those ugly critters are dead, I don't care if it's in a pool of blood and gore or not.

Cicciro · Mar 04, 2005, 04:07 AM // 04:07

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well, i got the part of -16 from "then we could live in a modle 17+ society" and the thing that i dont like is i feel if i told him i was 13 (witch i am) than he wouldnt care about any comments after that, he would not bother to read them, i would allways be an "immature scum" and never another person :/ might just be me

The society aspect I brought up was blatant sarcasm, and by blatant I mean those who cannot read understood. The reason I chose 17+ as the age modifier was that in the U.S. mature games are sold with a 17+ rating. If that rating was enforced, few people under 17 would be playing. With the programs I would have added, parents would be more aware and not buy for their children. It is a sad day today that I had to explain that.

Whosa Skylore · Mar 04, 2005, 04:14 AM // 04:14

ohh well the only thing than is the word "immuture scum" but back on track with the gore stuff we got a little off there

Thundermaine Hilts · Mar 04, 2005, 02:45 PM // 14:45

I am still against gore. If you have ever been in a slaughter house, or in combat blood has a certain smell to it... in various stages of decay. Death and dying all holds true with the possiblity if bleeding, and again I restate that it does not belong in a great game like this. You can have all the gore you want, just leave it out of the game, you want gore go to the the slaughter house. I am pretty sure after your "visit" there you will have had enough gore to last a life time.

Keep the game less gorey, and more stategic, and the satisfaction of beating your ememy will still be there... and you may even get to face the same enemy later.

It will keep this game as it was meant to be, for Ladies and Gentlemen to enjoy.

MoldyRiceFrenzy · Mar 07, 2005, 01:58 AM // 01:58

I dont think D2 gore is neccesary, but it would be nice if there was alittle bit or something that looked more realistic than just waving stuff around and seeing damage numbers in the air

Gaile Gray · Mar 17, 2005, 08:54 AM // 08:54

Interesting thread.

I've probably played a hundred or two hundred computer games in my life. Some more than others, of course.

I've been around those playing many hundreds of others. And I don't know, blood and gore never really did it for me. It's usually badly done and in a fantasy game, who needs it? Realism? Aw, don't go there; I'm fighting dragons and skeletons -- how realistic is that?

If it were added, where would it end? Blood? Innards? Dragging entrails? It's not that I'm squeamish, I just don't see the need or the point, really.

I will say that this is an issue we have discussed at the office, and the decision was that it really adds nothing essential to the game, and the inclusion of gore and blood does make it difficult to market in certain parts of the world. I think it will be great to ahve more players in the game and not displease parents who, for good reason, monitor what their children play, or exclude players who would have trouble buying the game where they live because of a needless inclusion of messy stuff. A Teen or 12+ rating is good; who needs to go higher than that?

nicosharp · Mar 17, 2005, 09:05 AM // 09:05

I will have to agree with Gaile here.

My girlfriend has a 10 year old brother obsessed with violent video games. Why? Well his answer: "Man did you see that blood spurt from his head, geez this is cool!"

I am not saying everyone wanting this is twisted and demented, or that they will end up that way. Just that we have become so desensitized by violence amoung other things in mainstream society, that rather being grossed out by seeing something gruesome we get a small adrenaline rush. When the violence becomes even more recurring, we simply expect it to be there. Like colors in a painting. Now we have sites doing "goatse" which is to disturbing to look into, but younger kids think its funny? I don't think it is needed, the game is beautiful why tarnish it with "blood spurts" for violent cheap thrills.

PawnBoy · Mar 17, 2005, 04:56 PM // 16:56

I have to say that I'm against gore in the game.

In addtition to not adding anything functional, it just seems like it would be in sharp contrast to the rest of the game. I mean, the game is just so beautiful in general. How many people have found themselves captivated by one of the expansive landscapes. The beams of light streaking through the clouds, the wonderful bloom effects radiating light off your character. I mean... a sticky opaque red liquid isn't going to make the game any prettier.

Diablo 2 was a dark and "dirty" game, torrents of blood was very fitting and I don't think that anyone every questioned it's being there. Guildwars on the otherhand is not by ANY means dark, or dirty, and I think that gore would only subtract from it's beauty.