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Old Mar 28, 2005, 12:48 AM // 00:48   #21
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While I too (at first) thought Saus was ninjaing legitimate threads with intertesting discussions. Now I believe that I know why he is doing it. It's (imo) to keep the discussion focused on the *now* when it really matters. He is probably trying to prevent whiney threads in the future -after release- about what is wrong with Guild Wars. This last month before retail is *the* month to really polish the game, hammer through any issues, and give some last minute insight.

While they will have a "live team" to fix imbalances, add a few features/quests, the majority of it is happening now. There's always time for dreaming about the future, in the future.
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Old Mar 28, 2005, 01:07 AM // 01:07   #22
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Threads like the countless races and classes and mounts threads get nuked because we are attempting to maintain certain quality standards on these forums. We want people to be able to find legitimate discussion of important game issues without the 197th iteration of the 'where are the elves?' thread.

These topics have been beaten to death on every forum out there, and we don't need to go over them yet again. If you think it's that important, make a suggestion in the suggestions thread stickied at the top of this forum.

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Old Mar 28, 2005, 01:35 AM // 01:35   #23
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we are attempting to maintain certain quality standards on these forums. We want people to be able to find legitimate discussion of important game issues
Hooray for quality standards!

It's disturbing that we have threads patting ourselves on the back for what a mature community we are (http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=1336) alongside the seemingly endless threads asking for when your favorite item X from other games will be implemented in Guild Wars.

X includes, but is not limited to:
Ninjas, Pirates, Assassins, Mounts, Dual Wielding, Dual Wielding Ninja Assassin Mounts, potions, and of course, different races.

As TP clearly demonstrated, most forum-goers are unaware of or remain willfully ignorant of the "Search" function present in almost every forum. We can do our best to try and educate them on netiquette, but obviously it is something that comes with time. Until then, I appreciate the effort of the moderators trying to keep the forums junk-free and full of easy to find, useful information.
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Old Mar 28, 2005, 01:41 AM // 01:41   #24
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Ya i dont think there is much left to add to the topics, but maybe a forum for threads about stuff that shouldnt be taken seriously by AN (since they actually look through our innane stuff) for all the rambling and ignorant stuff we like to talk about, probably in th outer circle.
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Old Mar 28, 2005, 01:43 AM // 01:43   #25
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Hooray for quality standards!
Agreed.

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X includes, but is not limited to:
Ninjas, Pirates, Assassins, Mounts, Dual Wielding, Dual Wielding Ninja Assassin Mounts, potions, and of course, different races.
Agreed as well, since there has been a cultlike obsession recently with everything Ninja and Pirate related. The pirate craze I attribute to Maddox, no idea on the Ninjas though. But yes, I've seen many posts related to "X," a majority of which are barely relevant to anything in particular.


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Old Mar 28, 2005, 01:47 AM // 01:47   #26
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aww great i have a nickname, well now i have to go get out my alter ego so i can revel in it, then probably go and TP someones house (probably mine).
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Old Mar 28, 2005, 02:12 AM // 02:12   #27
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as stated prior, if there's already a thread discussing something (especially if it's still on page 1 or 2) the other thread will be closed. These forums can get littered very very fast and we like to keep information readily accessible. If there's 30 threads on the front page about level cap, mounts, why we can't have cool races then no one finds the real meat of discussion here.

Furthermore, if you have questions about why something was done, take it to PM. We don't need them on the forums.

I'm closing this now.
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Old Mar 28, 2005, 06:56 AM // 06:56   #28
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I've used my ultra-secret admin techniques to post what I hope is the final word on the subject. Since, after all, I am, apparently, the subject.

It doesn't matter whether said topics were posted elsewhere or discussed previously. What matters is that they're not welcome here. We, as Charles put it, have standards. We've established these forums not for people to mess around on or to do whatever it is they want but to help encourage and further the discussion of our game. This isn't a place for any old talk. This is a place to come to and talk seriously about Guild Wars. That means we discuss reality here. The game, the reality of the game, and the reality of what the game might be. If you want to make an insane suggestion or turn the game into something it's not, there's a thread started by ANet themseles you can use. Someone there will have the unhappy task of going through all those suggestions, I'm just glad it's not me. But when you want to make those suggestions elsewhere, we hold ourselves and the people who want to use these forums in a bit higher regard than to allow such things to coninue unfettered. We're a growing site and while we might once have just chuckled over something now more drastic measures are called for.

There are many Guild Wars fansites. A large part of what sets us apart is our selectivity. If you don't measure up, you're not welcome here. That holds for posts, for threads, for articles, and even people. We'll never be the largest fansite around by doing things that way but we will be the place to turn to for that serious, reasoned discussion. If you want to post whatever crosses your mind, you're more than welcome to go to OGaming or TGH or GWOnline or KT or RPGStars or VN or any of a dozen other places. Just don't do it here. These are our boards and we established them to be as much a part of our site as anything else. That means if you post here you're being held to the same standards as everything else. If you don't like that, fine, go somewhere else. These are our boards and we're the ones who set the rules here. And rule #1 here is that the crap gets tossed out and the cream rises to the top.

We have our guidelines but at the same time we reserve the right to modify, move, edit, deleted, or close anything we like. We don't have to explain why, although we certainly try to, you should already know why. Not everything can and will get caught. We're only human and we only have so much time to spend on things. But these are our boards and we *will* keep them as free of clutter and junk as possible.

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If you have any comments on their moderating, take it to PMs. PM Saus or PM Charles. Posting your grievances here just mades you a target for ridicule.
No, not ridicule. Posting your grievances in public makes you a target for the banhammer. And that's precisely what's happened. Anyone else who'd like to ignore the efforts or moderators and administrators to keep things running smoothly and instead make a big fuss about things can rest assured of similar treatment. Especially when that person has been warned repeatedly about it and very nearly been bannished before.

You see, I've always found one simple rule to work very well when dealing with forums : Don't talk about the boards on the boards. Don't do it. It's only going ot upset a moderator and it's never going to be on-topic. Since we're a young site we've established a place for people to give us feedback and corrections but that's not an excuse to run to the boards every time you have a problem. We try to be open and honest here but when threads are locked or posts are deleted, it happens for a reason. And that reason is best handled in private, through PMs or some other means.

So, if you have a problem with what a moderator or myself or anyone else here's done, here's what you do: First, contact the party via PM and try and make sure it's not some sort of gigantic misunderstanding. Be polite as "Hey, why'd you do that?" works a lot better than, "You stupid, what did you do that for?" Second, contact a moderator. They're here to help solve problems, after all. If your problem is with a moderator, contact an admin. If your problem is with an admin, contact another admin. Third, accept that what we say goes. You might not have to like it but you do if you want to keep posting here.
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