Curse

Kiwi · Apr 05, 2005, 02:17 AM // 02:17

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Originally Posted by Weezer_Blue

Of course you weren't supposed to access it you bafoon! It was a KOREAN BETA! not a "Lets see who can find out how to get in" Beta! In my oppinion, everyone who even attempted to do this load of bullshit should have their acounts banned until retail... "Have fun in the Korean beta? Goooood... See you at release".

I...uhh...think I'll take a break from GWG...a long break...

DarkWasp · Apr 05, 2005, 02:25 AM // 02:25

Hehehe nice one Kiwi, i think you blew his fuse.

Xellos · Apr 05, 2005, 02:54 AM // 02:54

Weezer sounds jealous, when the matter at hand pasted and did no harm.

Rushing Wind · Apr 05, 2005, 03:16 AM // 03:16

Sounds like someone was a bit unnerved by what Kiwi did. Underage drinking and being a bit tipsy will do that to some people!

To err is... human? Kiwi (and all others that got in) I guarantee you that those that didn't play are jealous (Weezer proved that point) but mistakes happen! Hope you guys did have fun and we'll see you all on the 15th!

Mss Drizzt · Apr 05, 2005, 03:57 AM // 03:57

I'm jealous. Darn tooting straight I am. Not nice to play and telllllllllll.

Meannnnnn. I hope you had lots of fun.

Zaklex · Apr 05, 2005, 04:07 AM // 04:07

I was just passing along information I had received, nothing more, nothing less. Personally I don't hold a grudge against anyone that got in, it's not my place to lay blame on anyone or chastise(I didn't chastise, just pointed out that something might happen).

Dragon Bloodthirsty · Apr 05, 2005, 04:14 AM // 04:14

I heard there was a BWE, tried to log on, and couldn't. That's the extent of it.

Did I ever say "I hate April Fool's Day" here? (No, but my friends had to hear it alot).

2 Weeks? That's, like, 1/18th of the gestation time of a human baby! IT'S TOO LONG, and I can't wait.....

Spooky · Apr 05, 2005, 04:16 AM // 04:16

So.. this whole Korean event thing. Several times while it was happening, people tried to post instructions on how to do it. And each time it happened, I promptly shot them down. I realize that may seem callous - like "Hey, you can log in whenever you want, you don't know what it feels like to be going through withdrawls." I can safely say that, yes, I do know what it feels like. I've been doing this for about a year now, and most of that time was spent sitting on the outside, just the same as everyone else. So, I understand what it's like to want to be playing and yet, being unable to.

Why then - you might ask - would I consistently shoot down what people see as a 'glimmering mark of hope' ..? Well, the fact is, people outside of Korea were not supposed to be in that event. I would think that this would be common sense, considering the underhanded approach people had to use to get in - if they were supposed to be there, it would have been easy. This is not something ArenaNet wanted people doing. Next, consider our position - and what it is we do, as a fansite. Actively advocating something that ArenaNet is against is, to put it perhaps a tad too simply ... counterintuitive to what we hope to accomplish. It is hard to maintain good relations while doing something like that - as people have no doubt noticed, Gaile visits here fairly often. There are also other ArenaNet employees that stop by whether you realize it or not (though they themselves do not post.)

So, I hope you'll understand. We're not trying to stomp down on people because we can. We aren't being cruel. When the game is released in roughly 3 weeks from now, people aren't likely to remember that there was a little stretch of time that they couldn't play the beta for a few more days. People will be able to play through legitimate means, and everyone will be happy. In the long run, this is better for everyone.

I know it can be easy to feel slighted that this event .. and the tournament .. were not presented to us as well, but that was a decision on NCSofts part - not ArenaNet. All I can really do is just to say "Hang in there, baby" .. you know, like the poster with the cat and the tree?

Dreamsmith · Apr 05, 2005, 04:18 AM // 04:18

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Originally Posted by Weezer_Blue

Of course you weren't supposed to access it you bafoon! It was a KOREAN BETA! not a "Lets see who can find out how to get in" Beta! In my oppinion, everyone who even attempted to do this load of bullshit should have their acounts banned until retail... "Have fun in the Korean beta? Goooood... See you at release".

Yeah. And what about all those bloody Europeans I kept seeing in the first few BWE's with their imported pre-order packages, when on the official website it quite clearly said "North America only"! Silly English kniggets...

Virtuoso · Apr 05, 2005, 04:58 AM // 04:58

Bah, it happens all the time. "Region Specific" betas and events are silly, yet I can understand why they exsist. I also understand that if someone wants to play in one of these events and they're not supposed they can still get in almost untraced very easily. I remember when Lineage 2 was in Beta a lot of people were getting fake "Korean Social Security IDs" and logging in that way.

-Virt

Vermilion Okeanos · Apr 05, 2005, 05:20 AM // 05:20

This is a matter of morale.

I knew of this event, but because I respect Arenanet and their rule... I didn't want to join it.

That doesn't mean I don't fight for myself...
I would only take advantages of things when I have no respect toward the person/group or the rule itself.

Xellos · Apr 05, 2005, 07:31 AM // 07:31

I suggest we lock this thread Spooky. The past is the past, this site did what it did, and some people did what they did. No one needs to know, and everyone will forget in a few weeks. Continueing on or blaming people for playing or defending themselves for playing will only turn this into a heated discussion, one which I believe deters from the quality site you want.

areku · Apr 05, 2005, 11:55 AM // 11:55

Korea BWE was hard to get in bot not that cool to play afterwards. Lag was noticeable for me and there were not as much people ingame as in the last western BWE, at least I didn't find as many. PvP was not that high quality at all for me. It was fun, I had some time to finally explore the noob area a lil' bit more but I understand why NCSoft/ANet didn't want us to play - if it had been my first time in GW, my first impression of the game would have been much worse. Good for NCSoft was that I could at least use it to get one of my guildies IG so GW won another paying customer. *g*

DarkWasp · Apr 05, 2005, 12:21 PM // 12:21

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Originally Posted by Xellos

I suggest we lock this thread Spooky. The past is the past, this site did what it did, and some people did what they did. No one needs to know, and everyone will forget in a few weeks. Continueing on or blaming people for playing or defending themselves for playing will only turn this into a heated discussion, one which I believe deters from the quality site you want.

I agree. If you dont close this soon it could turn into a flamewar.

sama · Apr 05, 2005, 12:53 PM // 12:53

hmm this kbwe is really splintering the gw community. it seems to be inciting many a topic numerious gw forums.

the past is the past. let us move on?

Dreamsmith · Apr 05, 2005, 01:49 PM // 13:49

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Originally Posted by Vermilion Okeanos

I would only take advantages of things when I have no respect toward the person/group or the rule itself.

But which rule do you choose to respect? When the whole WaW thing came out, and we expressed concerns about the game being divided into "worlds" and how we'd be separated from our friends on other continents and so on, we were told a number of things, one of which was that when we created an account, we could choose to play in whichever world we wanted to, that although the worlds were named for specific geographical regions, we would not be limited to our own but would be welcome in whichever region we choose.

Now they start offering advantages to one region or another, and don't expect people to take them at their word that they're welcome to play in whichever region they wish?

I not only respect the rules, I remember them. If you change the rules, make sure you give me advance notice, because I do remember what was said previously, and I do tend to take people at their word. No one told me ahead of time that the previous statements about me being welcome in whichever world I picked had been revoked.

Odd Sock · Apr 05, 2005, 02:41 PM // 14:41

Perhaps the best thing to do here is forget about it. It's now the 5th and FULL retail is coming out on the 27th for those who pre-ordered (pretty much anybody hanging around on the forums is already a fan and has pre-ordered anyways) So that leaves you 23 days to do your stuff. If you're in university take the time to start studying for your finals. If you're in high-school go to the gym or play outside. And if you got a full-time job and don't know what to do of your evenings, then buy a crappy 10$ game from the store and abuse it until the next beta or do your spouse a favor and bring him/her out.

The people who got in on the Korean Beta probably didn't have loads of fun anyways, I heard the PvP characters didn't have the 'Unlock All Skills' button which means that you'd bascially need to go through the entire PvE part. If you ask me PvE is outright horrible, sorry if ANet employees are viewing this but I just can't stand the level-fest grinding, and some missions are just too difficult unless you're running a very specific group (I like GW strictly for PvP btw).

So for those who didn't get in: stop bitching and do something better with your time. And for those who got in: that's a pretty dandy waste of time on characters that will get deleted anyways. No one said life was fair so deal with it. You whine cause you can't play a video game, think of the people who can't eat 3 square meals a day while most of you live on the fatest continent on the planet. Sorry to be harsh.

Loviatar · Apr 05, 2005, 06:23 PM // 18:23

Frostty1

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Signatures are great as long as they are not overbearing. The purpose of the forum is to read informative posts, and not to be distracted by large sigs. Hence, we must enforce a sig. height limit. Anything over 120pixels or 3 lines of text is too large. Keep it small and simple.

thank you

Weezer_Blue · Apr 05, 2005, 08:02 PM // 20:02

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Originally Posted by Frostty1

Wow, you really are a slack-jawed chin drooler? Aren't you? How friggan hard is it to use Babblefish and enter Korean text? As to suggesting that people should be banned for wanting to play... go... get… bent...

If only Koreans were "supposed" to get in... AN should have mated the ability to play, with Koreans keys... OR sent Korean account holder an email with a special key... w/e. Just putting up a bit of text in Korean stops no one... And having a FULL week is VASTLY different than burning yourself out in 72hours.

STANDARD AI… perfect post… before it got deleted… that was a TOTALLY RESONABLE POST.. so WHY was it nuked.. and why was mine? Is it because we dissent and say it was OK to go to the Korean BWE?

yes, actually it was, because it wasn't. I don't give a damn about how easy it was to get in, it doesn't make it a fair or honest thing to do. Also, don't tell me to "get bent". Last time I heard that was... 6th grade? Nah... Maybe CS 1.6 server? In any case, it's immature. As well as the rest of your post. Quit trying to place the fault on Arena.Net when it is clearly those who snuck into the beta that are at fault and should be punished for their dishonesty. I had heard how to get into the beta and I knew perfectly well that I could if I wanted. But I didn't. And I don't have any regrets for doing so.

Spooky · Apr 05, 2005, 08:06 PM // 20:06

Ok.. when people post flames, and I delete them.. that means they stay deleted. You don't repost the same exact thing again.
Maybe that kind of thing flies on other forums, but not here. Keep it respectful, or don't say it all.
Locked - and this time it better stay dead.