Curse

axid · May 19, 2005, 04:12 AM // 04:12

*tiny spoiler*
i was doing a mission where the objective was to help a certain dwarf recapture his throne which had been overrun. at the beginning of the mission, it involves you clicking on him and he will start following the person who clicked on him.

having some experience with the quest (after failing a few times due to the person who clicked on the dwarf being a warrior and rushing into mobs and the dwarf would join the fight and thus get killed...) the tactic was i realised was to have an Ele or Ranger click on the dwarf myself and stay back to keep the dwarf out of the fight so that he would stay alive, but this time one of my teammates loaded faster and he clicked on the dwarf first.

He was a necro, i think his name was "Unholy Priestess" or something or rather. so after seeing him rush into the first mob with the dwarf and getting all the aggro on the dwarf we were supposed to keep alive... i said, "hey unholy, try to stay back a little. the dwarf is following you. we gotta keep him alive."

and this Unholy Priestess just goes bonkers on me saying, "DUN U F***IN TELL ME HOW TO PLAY THE GAME NOOB"
*Unholy Priestess has left the game*

this happened like 15 seconds into the mission... me and the other guys left in the mission just went... WOW...

dunno what to say...

ManadartheHealer · May 19, 2005, 04:22 AM // 04:22

That person must have a very sad life...

dbodenheim · May 19, 2005, 04:22 AM // 04:22

No, but I was invited to join a party once and immediatly upon joining was asked what all 8 skills were on my skill bar "Please list them in order and try to bring these." I said, "I know how to play a ranger." Then I left the group. This was the 22'd mission, so taking that into effect and the resentment torwards mis-understood rangers I was a little PO'd. He private messaged me, it was a misunderstanding. I rejoined, we won first try, no deaths. It was Ring of Fire, I heard other people have trouble with it but it seemed easy enough to me.

Lord Malikai · May 19, 2005, 04:42 AM // 04:42

Had a guy kick my wife out of the group for using a fiery weapon on the last mission. Of course, I would understand... if she wasn't a monk. So I told the guy... "Wow, you just really pissed her off!", then I had to leave the group too or feel my wifes wrath

Pevil Lihatuh · May 19, 2005, 10:37 AM // 10:37

lol you know what, thats actually pretty tame compared to some of the tantrums i've put up with

Thing is most people that have tantrums actually have no skill in the game whatsoever. They're the ones who just rush in and look after themselves, or hang back to try and stay alive while the rest of you need the extra damage to take the group out before YOU die. Like the other night *(again potential minor spoiler)*

Me and my boyfriend made it through Ascension and joined up with a group to get through dragons Lair. Now this one necro had already attempted it and said "when you reach elemental area, dont rush in". seems good advice so thought "oh ok, probably a decent player who knows how to teamplay, thats good". So we start through the first area; we're all doing a nice bit of damage and we have an amazing monk, best I've played with, who's keeping us all healed brilliantly.

Next area. The necro starts to run in for each group and consistantly gets herself killed EVERY fight. She's not complaining though and we can survive well enough while she's down, so we head to the next area. This is where it starts.

She dies again in each fight. We get halfway through and she leaves. My boyfriend says "She just messaged me, apparently im a crap leader and the monk sucks". She continues to message my bf all through the rest of the mission, telling him she's a "hardcore character and only the best teams can handle those." Upon telling her that this is a team game and that being "hardcore" and just running in is selfishly sapping healing for the rest of the team and just downright stupid, she eventually puts my bf on ignore.

Might I add after she had gone we only had about 2 more deaths in the remaining 5 areas (one was me lol) and the monk in fact commented how much easier his job was with her gone, and how much extra energy he had now he wasn't constantly ressing her!

I really could give you so many more examples, but thats the most recent and, i think, one of the best. Unfortunately this game seems to have these people in majority, rather than them being the odd ones that you run into. It's VERY hard to get a good team...

Oracle · May 19, 2005, 10:46 AM // 10:46

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Originally Posted by Pevil Lihatuh

Unfortunately this game seems to have these people in majority, rather than them being the odd ones that you run into. It's VERY hard to get a good team...

Oh, I agree with you. I despise pick-up groups for this reason, because the chances are high that in EVERY group you will have at least one trash-talking 'tard that feels the need to abuse at least one of the players for one reason or another. I'm on the US server (for guild reasons) and the player base is shocking. I wonder what it's like on the EU server? Would be keen to know (not that I can change over).

Which all goes to reinforce the fact that being in a good guild is key to enjoying this game

ShaneFalco · May 19, 2005, 12:42 PM // 12:42

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Originally Posted by Oracle

Which all goes to reinforce the fact that being in a good guild is key to enjoying this game

You beat me to it, and as much as it stinks, it's true.

I have my own small guild, and we work well together. I'm in Kryta, and since my gui,dmates haven't caught up with me yet, I've basically been doing the coop missions with a group of henchman. It is boring at times, but I prefer it to the morons who seem to infiltrate every group.

Crito · May 19, 2005, 01:33 PM // 13:33

I really dont know, most of my pickups have been great untill the acension missions where i leaned on my guild. Maybe its because the stupid people won't pick a mes because theyre "useless"

Mountain Man · May 19, 2005, 01:36 PM // 13:36

I must be fairly fortunate. I can't say I've had a truly aweful experience with pick-up groups yet, and I've been having a blast with this game.

Phantom Force · May 19, 2005, 01:47 PM // 13:47

Seems to me like many people are experiencing the same problems. However there has been a discussion about players like this. A thread was started called Abusive Arrogant Intolerable Players (AAIP's). Unfortunately dealing with moronic players new and old who have tempers and tantrums is part of the experience in MMORPG's. In every game I've played you see them over and over, they never change. The best thing you can do in situations like that is hope the person leaves your group and remember the name. Then take the time to let all your friends know, guild members, etc. so people are aware of the person. More than likely that person will never change. We can't make them change, they have to want to change. Sadly they don't, but at least the next time we can be sure they won't be in our party again.

*On a side note that necro was a complete moron. I've found the best way to take most aggro for a short while is to be the first one the mob sees. As a tank it's your job to take damage and let others deal damage and monk heal. Yes variations can occur but if a weak *** necro is trying to tank then he deserves to die and hold the title of *King of Morons*

TwinRaven · May 19, 2005, 04:49 PM // 16:49

I admit it...I love pharming...going to those lower levls and filling my inventory with cheap loot I can turn into gold makes me happy...selling goodies afterwards (phishing for people who don't know the value of items is fun too).

I was making a run for Char hides (4 hides=1 fur) making a tasty profit, when a couple lower lever characters asked if I'd join their group. I figured it might be fun to have some company, as I'd been soloing for awhile. We decided to do the bonus (follow charr fire bearers and extinguish their flame)...One of our party attacked early and it was near impossible not to kill a couple flame bearers (my bear couldn't be called off)...In the mayhem that followed, one of the party died and went absolutley apechit on our monk...flamed and cried about how he wasn't doing his job...a major tantrum...lots of "----" followed by <disconnect>

We ended up finishing the bonus and the main mission with ease (level 20 rangers make good tanks for lower level missions)...I wonder how many more attempts it took the whiner to make it through, but given his level of maturity...I don't really care.

Seems to me that not enough of America's youth are watching Sesame Street...It's all about COOPERATION...they are even called "cooperative missions"...My policy on group formation is: "LFG with patience and skill, willing to communicate...NO WHINERS!"

dinglenut · May 19, 2005, 04:55 PM // 16:55

A funny example is my cousin who plays also was in a pug when some player was going off on the group calling them idiots and a few choice words, Its the quest where you use the lever to open the gates, so the whole group said we're staying here till you disconnect since my cousin had the lever he just went off and stood there, and they waited 20 minutes while this player just screamed and yell'd the whole time till she disconnected, and they completed the quest.

when my guildmates and I play in pugs we try to be courteous and helpful, and we always get comments like the best group i've played with. We've been together over 3 years in all kinds of games. so if you ever need a person in the group just pm me dr dinglenut i'm glad to help anyone out with missions or quests.

Mercury Angel · May 19, 2005, 04:58 PM // 16:58

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Originally Posted by Lord Malikai

Had a guy kick my wife out of the group for using a fiery weapon on the last mission. Of course, I would understand... if she wasn't a monk. So I told the guy... "Wow, you just really pissed her off!", then I had to leave the group too or feel my wifes wrath

Ha, I know what you mean.
Why would a mesmer/monk swap to a fiery dragon sword only at certain times? Well, odds are, it's NOT because I deal uber damage with it. I only like it because:

A) My highest "of enchanting" mod is a sword upgrade
B) Swords attack faster, and can actually use the Illusionary Weaponry enchantment, unlike my staff. I could use a Talc Sword of 1-1 Softness damage, and it'd still have the same end result with Illusionary Weaponry. Fiery Dragon Sword just looks neat :P

Anyway, yeah, and it's sad that I find the people with the absolute WORST attitudes most likely to give you the hardest time and talk the most inappropriate trash are... your own teammates in a pickup group. Always. Tombs, arenas, exploring, missions, whatever. An enemy team might taunt you, but by far the worst attitudes I've ever seen come from my own team.

I remember taking my second character out of pre-searing, and we are a little disorganized (and one of the teammates didn't seem to know what he was doing. Which is fine, as he may not have expected a PvP battle, and never have played PvP prior to that moment, it happens.). But after a long drawnout battle, with nobody killing anybody, one of a group of 2 people (of which one was actually pretty mild and well-mannered) died and cost us the battle (not that it was necessarily their fault. It was an eventuality that SOMEONE would die). However, their friend or whatever proceeded to unload some pretty vile crap about "sucking his ----" and etc. etc. =.=
Try to point out that if he didn't like the disorder, he could have called targets (if the match had actually mattered, I might have. Except it didn't, so I focused on Alesia and let everyone else do their own thing. No point in bossing them around when there's no real point at all, in my opinion.), and he just ignores and continues the barrage of insults, and then I pointed out the one person he's NOT insulting actually cost the match, that it was a TEAM effort, and his friend calms him down and concedes my points, but he just shuts up without retracting a thing.

Can't imagine how people get so worked up. It's not that I don't enjoy winning, or get dissapointed over losing, but win or lose, what will never change is that there's always room for improvement, and placing blame around just seems like an excuse not to improve, to me.

Anyway, kinda went into a rant there

EnDinG · May 19, 2005, 05:02 PM // 17:02

Thanks to everyone who has left out player names of "AAIP's" types. They might be jerks, but we can't promote flaming of anyone in the forums (or guild advertising). So far so good.

(Sorry for the notice, I just know how these threads can build up to that after time, kudos to everyone so far.)

Meat Ball · May 19, 2005, 05:19 PM // 17:19

All this makes you wonder how these people act in real life. Is online gaming a way for them to act like they really want to in the real world but are to afraid to? Or have mommy and daddy always given into their demands and coddled them all their life that they don't know how to handle tiny little tribulations ( like a game even matters anyway)? This makes me all that more dilgent in how I'm raising my own kids.

Sekkira · May 19, 2005, 05:49 PM // 17:49

That reminds me, I got an 8 year old kid who's gonna get this game for his birthday. I'm gonna have to teach him how to play online, curtesy, ect. Considering his father is the most immature and irresponsible person I've ever met, it doesn't surprise me the kid's a wreck already. I just hope I can bring him out in time, god forbid he becomes an AAIP...

Rahne Sinclaire · May 19, 2005, 06:01 PM // 18:01

My boyfriend flips out on people all the time... it gets kinda annoying, 'cause I think he tends to burn bridges... not that he's a bad person, he just wants things done right. Still, I don't condone it when he starts cussing at people.
I think I've only ever got impatient with one person, but that was because he wouldn't listen to a word that was said, and just kept running into groups of mobs like an idiot.
Anyway, that's my two cents.

Banned · May 19, 2005, 06:08 PM // 18:08

To Oracle, I know that most of the times pick-up teams bite rocks but I'm forced to team most often with them and unless you have access to a large and active guild then you simply dont have the numbers to form your own party, i.e, guild m8s and friends. I try to finish up quests with henches but I'm constantly in the more difficult areas of the game and need human Intelligence not mindless AI that the henchmen often perform with, and since my main is a 20 monk and alt an 18 warrior, its hard to get a good team on a consistant basis. With a small guild, players are always working on new characters and there are not enough players on at once to be able to team up on a regular basis. So what can you do but get on a pick-up team?

nechronius · May 19, 2005, 06:16 PM // 18:16

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Originally Posted by Rahne Sinclaire

My boyfriend flips out on people all the time... it gets kinda annoying, 'cause I think he tends to burn bridges... not that he's a bad person, he just wants things done right. Still, I don't condone it when he starts cussing at people.
I think I've only ever got impatient with one person, but that was because he wouldn't listen to a word that was said, and just kept running into groups of mobs like an idiot.
Anyway, that's my two cents.

I've met people like that. Nice overall person, but the moment things get "competitive" in any way, even a casual situation, they go from type B to type A in a heartbeat. It can be a hard personality type to be friends with, let alone be tied so close to.

Sanhosee · May 19, 2005, 06:49 PM // 18:49

Seems like I've got Lady Luck by my side when I've been in a random party (same for my little sister... though she's even bigger noob than I). I've formed a random party twice now, and both of them were really nice guys/gals.

Altough something pretty weird happened with the last guy. We were playing (and, at first, dying) in The Breach. Of course we would blame that damn Alesia (NPC monk) of everything (with a bit humour, of course... altough when she ran towards four or so Hulking Stone Elementals or whateveryoucallsthem and got herself killed in nanosecond we were a _bit_ angry.). Anyways, after some questing we returned to one outpost ( I don't remember it's name), we thought that it might be cool to have a third real player... and after we got one. He was ~4 levels above us, so there were two possiblities: a nice higher-level player wanting to relax, or (as in our case) some 10-year kid, who wanted to boost his virtual ego. He'd just go over, draw a lot of enemies to us, and then we'd hope that Alesia would do her job (which she luckily did pretty good). After fight he'd say something like "Aren't my skills good huh?" and we'd just say something like "yeah, they're cool" etc.

Anyways, soon we informed the guy that we should be going now and added each other to our friends lists to continue our quests one day.

There I went babbling again... please feel free to point out the mistakes in my use of english (matriculation exam coming up and so on...).