Curse

wgregory87 · Jun 14, 2005, 11:00 PM // 23:00

Unless they raised the skill level caps (12), raising the level cap would not make characters better in any way except for farming. At the current level cap you can already master 1 skill tree as well as nearly another supporting tree (correct me if I'm wrong, you may be able to master another tree, I haven't done the attribute quests yet).

So, since this game is directed towards teamwork, raising the levels wouldn't really help a team accomplish anything. You have 8 players on a team each with a maxed out skill. Thats about as godly as you're going to get in this game. And the game has basically eliminated the need for farming -rune traders and rare materials traders- so leveling higher to make a more self sufficient character wouldn't really help you much except be a waste of time.

Simply enjoy the game as it is. If you get bored, start a new character. Half the fun is mastering your character, not mastering the game.

quanzong · Jun 14, 2005, 11:29 PM // 23:29

Why everyone complain about rune traders, they just help the game, some people have absolutely no luck in finding runes, the traders just even out the fields a bit. You have to remember, this game isnt about who has best runes and armor, its about who can deploy the best tatics, as a team. If a team had no runes but knew how to play correctly they could beat people who have runes. Rune traders should stay, they are doing nothing wrong and just helping people who have trouble finding stuff to enjoy the game.

QuixotesGhost · Jun 15, 2005, 02:24 AM // 02:24

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As I said quite a while ago, I don't see them raising the level cap any time soon because you can still make things more difficult without raising the cap. However, there does come a point eventually where it is so hard, you will have to raise the cap.

Call me wierd, but I don't see why you have keep making the game progressivley harder and harder. Just maintain a brutal - but still beatable level of difficulty and the game will remain fun and interesting. All you gotta do is throw something new at the players but not nessecarily more diffcult.

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Why everyone complain about rune traders, they just help the game, some people have absolutely no luck in finding runes, the traders just even out the fields a bit. You have to remember, this game isnt about who has best runes and armor, its about who can deploy the best tatics, as a team. If a team had no runes but knew how to play correctly they could beat people who have runes. Rune traders should stay, they are doing nothing wrong and just helping people who have trouble finding stuff to enjoy the game.

Now that runes are so cheap, theres less stuff out there to actually spend money on. Meaning theres more money that people are just sitting on, making everything else more expensive. Plus rune traders make it HARD for new players to make money selling runes. Just lucked out and found a major rune?
Yeah, too bad it's worth less than 100 gold on the market, now. I think rune traders hurt newbies more than they help.

Plus traders hurt the creation of a player economy by setting artifical prices. Prices that players often feel are too low are too high. Want to buy black dye? Yeah, the trader will buy it for 3.6k so you gotta buy it for slightly higher. Or the rune trader will often sell major runes at 125, wanta sell me that rune yeah gotta beat the trader price.

Now you got a bunch of goods that people won't sell on the market becuase the prices are too low and a bunch of goods that people won't buy on the market becuase the prices are too high. So nobody buys or sells anything, gold stockpiles and prices for items (the only thing not pricefixed) goes way up.

C-Tzar · Jun 15, 2005, 04:09 PM // 16:09

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Originally Posted by Gaele

Bit off topic: There, I changed my avatar. Are your weak stomachs and fragile minds satisfyed yet? No more brain lapses for my forum friends <3

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Seriously though, thanks.

Padre · Jun 15, 2005, 04:50 PM // 16:50

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Originally Posted by QuixotesGhost

Just lucked out and found a major rune?
Yeah, too bad it's worth less than 100 gold on the market, now. I think rune traders hurt newbies more than they help.

Plus traders hurt the creation of a player economy by setting artifical prices. Prices that players often feel are too low are too high. Want to buy black dye? Yeah, the trader will buy it for 3.6k so you gotta buy it for slightly higher. Or the rune trader will often sell major runes at 125, wanta sell me that rune yeah gotta beat the trader price.

Now you got a bunch of goods that people won't sell on the market becuase the prices are too low and a bunch of goods that people won't buy on the market becuase the prices are too high. So nobody buys or sells anything, gold stockpiles and prices for items (the only thing not pricefixed) goes way up.

It's all supply and demand, and people don't seem to be demanding major runes of *insert random attribute here*. The best selling runes at the trader seem to be absorbsion, fire, and vigor runes, because that's what people want. I got over a plat when i sold a minor fire at the trader, and get about 50 or so for major wilderness survival. The rune trader actually put some runes that were popular higher in price and dropped the less popular ones quite a bit.

I like the rune trader, because it means i don't have to hold on to every rune that i've ever owned because "well, maybe i'll make a beastmastery/curses ra/nec someday" Perhaps the price floor on major and superior runes could be raised a bit, but i don't see any problem with unpopular minor runes selling for 125.

Algren Cole · Jun 15, 2005, 04:57 PM // 16:57

if I can't be level 100 I don't want to play anymore!