Curse

Dan Mega · Jun 24, 2005, 09:15 PM // 21:15

Bots are why we should be able to PK someone in or out of town

der kur · Jun 24, 2005, 09:24 PM // 21:24

hahaha that sounds more like l2

Crotalus · Jun 24, 2005, 09:26 PM // 21:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by toastgodsupreme

The community fuels botters. As long as there are people willing to buy, there are people willing to bot and sell.

Look to our peers. They're just as bad as the botters since they keep them going with cash.

Quoted for the truth. This has been going on since Tuesday as reported on the IGN boards. These botters or farmers have made lots of money in that time. They will continue to do so as long as there is a market for it. The best thing to do is to not buy gold or items from Ebay or any other website that sells it.

However, i hope ArenaNet does something about it. Seeker's Passage is very laggy now thanks to the botter/farmers.

Sanji · Jun 24, 2005, 09:34 PM // 21:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Mega

Bots are why we should be able to PK someone in or out of town

First off, that's a stupid idea.

Secondly, you wouldn't be able to target and kill bots before they zone.

Thirdly, that's a stupid idea. We don't need griefers having the ability to kill people in town. That's trading one problem for another.

GW Monkey · Jun 24, 2005, 10:14 PM // 22:14

It's funny to watch. The issue is far from.

For those that have gotten at least to Abaddons... w/o spoilage I can say you might remember there was a chest here to the right of the fort gate that you could open before engaging anything. It's gone now. Meaning it was exploited to death. But spotting a bot here would be even more subtle. You'd never see him from a casual stop in town... only that the same guy, his name always light blue, keeps entering town and zoning away.

This is the only reason I care: The bots are ruining my game, not because of all the gold they are flooding the community with, but that they're causing the item drops to be so stingy and the chests/wreckages to be removed. Here's another bot mapmod; have you done Sanctum lately? Now there are imps where the giants used to be. Too much rune farming depressed the rune trading market, one assumes.

And honestly, laughing is all we can do. Even they can't stop it, they can barely recognize it short of modifying the client code to specifically look for it. It takes humans to notice it at this point. So what's next, maybe a memory watcher stub ala PunkBuster? Do they really want to get involved in this stuff? (Especially when the serious bot coder laughs at it anyway.) This isn't easy stuff. You have to be about 3x as dedicated as the kid(s) hammering away at you. Good luck. So the level designers or their replacements are having to go over and over the maps again, looking for where something might possibly be exploited by a bot... and change it. This sucks. Sucks for them, sucks for us.

Oh well. Just wait until the private DXhook PvP bots (perfect healer, perfect condition remover, perfect interrupter, etc.) start making it more into the public. Oh, you think there are none, huh? Yeeeeea... you keep on thinkin' that. And laugh.

Pandora's box · Jun 24, 2005, 10:24 PM // 22:24

Hmm, 2 suggestions:

-Farming bots: After x times repeatedly entering the same point of the map within a certain amount of time show a random picture of a number and ask to write it down to prevent disconnection.
-Spamming (advertizing) bots: After x messages within a certain amount of time send a message to the player he/she should leave and re-enter the map before he/she is allowed to message again.

Jaythen Tyradel · Jun 24, 2005, 11:20 PM // 23:20

Went to seekers passage and stood there for about five minutes watching the area.
In and out.

In and out.

In and out.

Repetitive zoning in then immediately running for the exit. Over and Over.
Bots ...made me dizzy just watching them all....

Old Dood · Jun 24, 2005, 11:25 PM // 23:25

I was watching these BOTS go out the door at Seekers Passage and I ended up chatting with a few people there and they said that it is "Corporated". Meaning that people are fronted the cash to send out bots and make X amount of real world cash. Makes sense to me.

Eet GnomeSmasher · Jun 24, 2005, 11:28 PM // 23:28

Yeah, the wreckages should be randomized. Heck I think the instances should be randomized like in Diablo. That way it would stop the bots and add some replayability to the game.

Fantras · Jun 25, 2005, 01:24 AM // 01:24

I saw it with my own, two, pixellated eyes.

Shagsbeard · Jun 25, 2005, 01:57 AM // 01:57

I'm hoping that they are taking names this week and will start banning accounts next.

Anduril Arclite · Jun 25, 2005, 07:13 AM // 07:13

www.guildwars.com

bots have been banned

Poised · Jun 25, 2005, 07:56 AM // 07:56

Reading about bots being banned is all well and fine, but I have left quite a few games already due to bots, so I take those messages with a grain of salt, I see the exact same 4 bots in seekers this morning, Maomao mao and Sky look like they are practicing for some kind of bot marathon.

I actually think it would be easier to stop the bots by banning the players that buy from bots, right now you can buy all the ill gotten gold you want without fear of punishment, Im sure banning a few buyers would cut a lot of the bots customer base.

Silmor · Jun 25, 2005, 09:32 AM // 09:32

Definitely hope this is a 'work in progress' thing, seeing a lot of the same names as well, and currently a lot of [hao] and [good] members going at it with three or four at a time.

Uzul · Jun 25, 2005, 12:41 PM // 12:41

[seei] was there with several members too - but i can't see them anymore ^^
[good] still has members botting there, saw them just a minute ago.

"chicks too", "angel pvp", "fly girl two", "super mans" and so on are still there botting it up...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anet

[...]
We will continue to monitor this situation and will take further action if the need arises.

i hope anet is able to log the trades of suspicious accounts so they can get a hold on the master account behind the bots - and those who buy the money on ebay need a permaban too.

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Originally Posted by Rules of Conduct

11. You may not advertise the intent to or commit the act of buying or selling items for cash or trading items from one server to another.

DrSLUGFly · Jun 25, 2005, 12:46 PM // 12:46

someone had the idea of flooding e-bay with gold and items that automatically disappear within 2 minutes of receiving them on your character. This would certainly slow down the e-bay aspect of it, and other purchase methods would slow down too.

Sanji · Jun 25, 2005, 12:53 PM // 12:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrSLUGFly

someone had the idea of flooding e-bay with gold and items that automatically disappear within 2 minutes of receiving them on your character. This would certainly slow down the e-bay aspect of it, and other purchase methods would slow down too.

http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/...rformance.html

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Flooding eBay with fraudulant auctions might not be that great an idea, considering the person(s) involved could get in trouble with the Law.

This may be a problem to us all and but we're going to have to trust Anet to solve this. Any form of vigilante justice that involves cheating people to get at cheaters is dangerous.

QTFsniper · Jun 25, 2005, 12:56 PM // 12:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sanji

http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/...rformance.html

Two wrongs don't make a right, not to mention if you indeed flood eBay, the person(s) involved could get in trouble with the Law.

In this case, yea it does. How could they get in trouble with the law? The other player recieved his gold and items. Not the sellers fault they magically disappeared after two minutes. The seller did his part. The buyer cant really hold the seller reliable for something that shouldnt really be sold in the first place ::cough::contract::cough::

Sanji · Jun 25, 2005, 12:58 PM // 12:58

It's still a scam, one that might get your eBay and Guild Wars account banned if you piss off a persistent enough person.

[Edit] Just to let you all know, there is a precedence of NcSoft dealing with players who break the rules to deal with players who break the rules.

DrSLUGFly · Jun 25, 2005, 01:04 PM // 13:04

perhaps since this is actually against the end user agreement, Anet could contact e-bay and paypal directly with their grievance. I'm quite sure they would listen...

people are no longer allowed to save toby via paypal (a guy found a rabbit and said he'd eat it unless he received 50,000 bucks in donations before the deadline. He got to 28,000 before protests had paypal shut down his account

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