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MuKen · Jul 12, 2005, 03:28 AM // 03:28

Hmm? As I see it, people have the right to demand whatever the heck they want in group members. If people say "only grouping with people who live in Manhattan and like to wear top hats", well then I don't group with them because I don't live in Manhattan and wear top hats. It's pretty self-centered to say "you should want to group with me, and if you don't you're wrong".

Furthermore, now you're asking a bunch of total strangers who don't know friggin jack about you to differentiate between you and some random noob who just got into some group that was rushing through all the missions. If I have a choice between a random high level stranger who may or may not be a good player, and a random low level stranger who may or may not be a good player, I think I'd go with the high one. At least then if they suck, they aren't gonna get themselves killed on crappy charr all day.

And the best part is that in your thread about level discrimination, you pretty much imply that anybody who is a high level for their area is pathetic. You'd generally expect that people complaining about discrimination would be open minded themselves. Some people like to do all the quests and take their time, enjoying the game as an RPG.

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Originally Posted by Lmaonade

Now, along with the sadness of being LvL 18 and being nowhere near the end of the game.

Oh..and an average lvl of 12 at Nolani is still pretty pathetic.

Dax · Jul 12, 2005, 03:35 AM // 03:35

Wow considering I've heard alot of 'it's not about leveling' or 'it's all about skill', people seems to be hung up with both. Anyhow it seems to me there are bigger bragging rights to saying that you're a lower level in a high level area, than braggin you're a high level person.

I dunno very odd...

Gedscho · Jul 12, 2005, 04:11 AM // 04:11

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Originally Posted by Aniewiel

What level means to some people is the same thing that...manhood size means to a lot of men.

This is also known as the "mine's-bigger-than-yours-syndrome". Some people think that size matters. *shrugs*

my...manhood is level 20 and ascended

Dax · Jul 12, 2005, 04:22 AM // 04:22

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Originally Posted by Gedscho

my...manhood is level 20 and ascended

Woo way too much info there bud...lol
But you know judging from most posts I've seen lately it's more prestegious to say lvl12 ascended.

EmperorTippy · Jul 12, 2005, 05:25 AM // 05:25

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Originally Posted by Tsukiyomi

I partied with a mesmer in the very first mission who was already level 15. and i asked if they already did this mission and was just helping a friend, and they said that they hadn't done any missions yet. wow, level 15. in the first mission.

I was level 16 in Pre-Seer. Turned level 17 on that quest you get right after pre-seer (When it says 2 years later on the screen).

theclam · Jul 12, 2005, 05:28 AM // 05:28

BTW, you'd unlock your Ranger skills a LOT faster if you do all the quests that unlock skills:
http://cleaned.beyondunreal.com/temp...wardQuests.htm

Freyas · Jul 12, 2005, 05:41 AM // 05:41

Hmm- my first character was 20 when I acended, but that's because I was taking my time and exploring areas, doing all the quests I could find, etc. I believe I ascended my second character at about 15 and my third was at 11. Fortunately, I had guild support, and at level 11, I was a burden during the desert missions, but I was still able to help the party more than most random pickups. For my level 15 character, I did 2/3 of the game with just henchies- and I was a Mesmer/Warrior- not a W/Mo or anything like that.

Player skill makes a far more difference than a couple levels. Knowing how to use henchmen can help a lot too, since if you're lower level than the average player, it is difficult to find parties. However, pretty much everywhere in the game can be done with henchmen- the only places that I haven't been able to manage with henchmen are Thirsty River and Thunderhead Keep. I've also found it's much easier to take henchmen to some areas than other players- I've cleared mineral springs several times with just henchmen, where most pick-up groups I've gone there with can't generally make it past the first encounter.

Lmaonade · Jul 12, 2005, 05:29 PM // 17:29

The whole point is that i dont want to do all the damn quests.Thats what i meant with skipping through with all the missions.Ive done these quests many times and i find no enjoyment doing them again for the sake of some skills that usually can be purchased elsewhere. As for the random people in town and not knowing who is skilled..that is fine..but if the guy your inviting is so much higher than everyone else its not really a good sign as to his playing abilities.I mean if you see him in Droknar armor thats ok but if hes no better than you and lvl 15+ in Tier 1 of the game then i dont think you have much to gain from partying him over a person of normal level.You guys are acting like its one odd person here and there thats different.Go to Nolani at lvl 6-8 and you will never get a party.Yes you can take henchman or skip through the mission but doesnt that make the game even more boring?

Also im not talking about going to Thunderhead Keep at lvl 16.There i would say that level does mean something as its a crap load more of life and attributes and i think a Mursaat would royally pwn anyone under 20.Even if you wouldnt get killed you still wouldnt be as effective as the rest of your party.Its simple mathematics.But that type of discrimination does not belong anywhere in Tier 1 of the game im sorry.

Im glad to see some of you are sour about my post.Im sure you are the very same people who only party high levels in Tier 1 of the game and your probably the same type of people who freeload off high levels while you sit back at home and stuff your face with potato chips.Just remember how "skilled" you are when my guild steamrolls over you in GVG you almighty lvl 20 war in ascalon

Oh but lemme guess...you dont GVG because all the good GVG'rs are cheaters right.Yes i know your type..afraid of a good challenge

PS..Try to be civil with your flames.I have kept my posts formal and the debate to the point.Lets see if you can also do the same.

MuKen · Jul 12, 2005, 05:34 PM // 17:34

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Originally Posted by Lmaonade

Now, along with the sadness of being LvL 18 and being nowhere near the end of the game.

These are the very same people who choose a War/Mo and flood random arenas with their uselessness.

Im sorry, but that is not a sign of strength..that is a sign of weakness and you really need to learn to play the game.

Now i await the fool who will dare disagree with me

*Cough* You suck *Cough*

Oh..and an average lvl of 12 at Nolani is still pretty pathetic.

Im glad to see some of you are sour about my post.

Yes i know your type..afraid of a good challenge

PS..Try to be civil with your flames.I have kept my posts formal and the debate to the point.Lets see if you can also do the same.

LMAO!

Lmaonade · Jul 12, 2005, 05:47 PM // 17:47

Your my favorite poster Muken.I specifically heat up my posts just for you.I know you dont like me or my views.I dont live in manhattan and i dont wear a top hat.Which by the way is not the point of the arguement.Its not one person out of a million.All of Tier 1 is infected with the..lvl 15+ disease.Look at the rest of the posts in here.Im not alone.If you can bring a valid arguement other than mocking everything i say then plz post it here.Otherwise go lvl up your lvl 20 war/mo in Nolani

Yes you may choose to have your own invite specifications..but when the entire town is asking for high lvls because the game is SOOO HARD.OMG Nolani Academy takes UBER skills to complete.That lvl 7 Charr P00NS me!!

I can name countless times when i started this game and all the players actually had skill.Back in the day no one was anywhere near high levels in Tier 1 of the game.Ahhhh the good ol days.Lets see what you got Muken.

MuKen · Jul 12, 2005, 05:53 PM // 17:53

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Originally Posted by Lmaonade

Your my favorite poster Muken.

Awww, I'm touched

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Originally Posted by Lmaonade

If you can bring a valid arguement other than mocking everything i say then plz post it here.

Disclaimer: The following quote has been revised and stripped down for maximum understandibility. Even a monkey could follow it!

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Originally Posted by MuKen

People have the right to want whatever they want in a group, and it's pointless to rant at them for their wants.

In the situation you brought up, nobody knew you, so there's no reason for them to think you're some uber skillfull guy who just happens to have a low-level character.

It's hypocritical for you to call high level people pathetic in your own thread about level discrimination.

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Originally Posted by Lmaonade

Yes you may choose to have your own invite specifications..but when the entire town is asking for high lvls because the game is SOOO HARD.OMG Nolani Academy takes UBER skills to complete.That lvl 7 Charr P00NS me!!

*shrug*, people want what they want. If what the majority of people want is not you, then live with it. Don't be that guy that no women go out with, so he thinks all women must be dumb....

Sofonisba · Jul 12, 2005, 05:56 PM // 17:56

Lmaonade--

How does one flame in a civil manner? Formal flaming? Please enlighten.

Anyway, if you see my lvl 20 war, el, or mo in Piken Square for instance, it is probably because I am there to

a) meet a guildmate--hey! I like to help out others!

b) mule stuff from one player to another via storage - Piken is so small, no matter where you pop out storage is always right there;

c) give away stuff I am tired of storing, to people who may need it - sometimes to the dreaded complete stranger!! - yesterday I gave away a bowstring of charrslaying (useful at that point in the game) and a beast mastery rune to the first ranger to open a trade window.

Also, I have taken my time with all my characters. Since I am the ultimate newb/noob, I need the extra time to discover the subtleties of each class - and yes even a w/mo has subtlety.

Go ahead, make assumptions about why you saw my monk when she was lvl 15 at Ruins of Surmia. For my part, I will try not to make assumptions about you.

There are indeed asses out there, and I am sorry for your experience. I too have encountered some really really awful people, and I try not to be one of them. However, we didn't purchase 25,000 new best friends for our $50.

none · Jul 12, 2005, 06:02 PM // 18:02

I absolutely know how you feel Lmaonade.

I played through the game 4 times (and my chars were subsequently lower, every time I started again), and it was a real pain finding groups, because people expect you to be much higher level than is reasonable (if the henchies are lvl 12, why the hell should I be lvl 15, and not just lvl 12 as well?).

Talesin Darkbriar · Jul 12, 2005, 06:02 PM // 18:02

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Originally Posted by Lmaonade

i think its about time i state my opinions so maybe certain individuals can see how ridiculous they really are.

Your opinions? Fair enough, lets take a look.

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Originally Posted by Lmaonade

Now as you might have guessed..if this is my last character i must have played through the game many times..or at least switched professions very often.

Why would we have guessed that? You can delete and recreate your characters as often as desired - and many people do. I have four different character classes in game; this does not automatically make me a "game guru god."

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Originally Posted by Lmaonade

the PVE aspect of the game is highly repetitious and i definitly want to get through it ASAP.

Translation: I am high maintentance; easily bored and require constant excitement.

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Originally Posted by Lmaonade

So as a veteran to GW and a highly skilled one at that

Here is grandiose lie #1.
We don't know you from anyone, simply stating you are skilled doesn't make it so. Guess what? I'm a GOD. Now worship me!

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Originally Posted by Lmaonade

a few missions in and im at Nolani.Cost? Im level 7.Impact to my effectiveness as a monk ? 0.

Is anyone else's "idiot alert" light going off here?

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Originally Posted by Lmaonade

Now picture the rest of the population at Nolani. Lo and behold..the people in Nolani are nowhere near in the same predicament as me..noo..they are LvL 18 and boast about it quite loudly in main channel.

Translation: I am boasting about being level 7 at Nolani.

When has anyone heard of higher levels boasting about their levels EVER?
You don't because it doesn't happen - its always the little rushed noobies like this one jumping up and down and screaming, "look at me! look at me! Augury rock and level 3!"

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Originally Posted by Lmaonade

I hope my little story hits home ... Now i await the fool who will dare disagree with me and insist how level is SOOO important in PVE.

I only have one question left to ask;
Did you actually jerk off while you wrote this? Because this is nothing but a shameless piece of self-gratification.
I am not only not impressed, but in fact the opposite - more likely to hunt you out in PvP and shame you in front of your friends.

I can't wait to be underwhelmed by your leet mad skillz!

Talesin

Aniewiel · Jul 12, 2005, 06:04 PM // 18:04

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I only have one question left to ask;
Did you actually jerk off while you wrote this? Because this is nothing but a shameless piece of self-gratification.

Wow....well said but....

Lmaonade · Jul 12, 2005, 06:05 PM // 18:05

You guys are right i have pointed too many fingers and have made so many assumptions.When you become confident with your gaming abilities and know your own self worth you cant help but become RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOy.To me a formal flame is one without someone spamming N00b constantly to one specific target.Not using bad grammar or anything that doesnt require at least an elementary education.I have been in many arguements in game for the same debates.Personally i dont really care who has a problem with my open'ness.For the sake of my contradictive nature and the knit pickity attitude of certain individuals i will try not to ever make any assumptions while trying to get a point across.Other then the fact that you suck if your lvl 20 in Nolani

Double if your a war/mo

silverhail · Jul 12, 2005, 06:06 PM // 18:06

I agree that rate really doesn't mean too much, but I will admit to getting really annoyed at a level 2 who did the academy mission to go to post searing. He said, pre-searing annoyed him. Fine, but when it came time to do the mission, he just stood there. I said... well come on.. he said no he would just get killed and expected to stand there while I did the mission for him.

I just left and did it with only henchies.

Lmaonade · Jul 12, 2005, 06:11 PM // 18:11

Talesin dont start with me.I have seen many of your posts and you never have anything to contribute but your useless opinion about a particular post.I dont cut up quotes and knit pick what people say.I make observations on highly obvious facts that i see in the world around me.On a lot of those counts your right about me though.Great analytical work...i do not hide what i am and my skill speaks for itself.If i seem vain and Elitist its simply because i am.The people i play with should bend around me simply because im more experienced.The world runs on experience.Ive been playing this game since the day before Day 1 so i have every right to brag and complain about newbies making ridiculous demands.

Now go find another post to insert your cheap attacks

You do not affect me in the least.I applaud you for keeping formal though.

Kryss · Jul 12, 2005, 06:11 PM // 18:11

I understand and feel your annoyance Lmaonade. Each of my characters was ascended well before level 20. At level 13 my monk was ready to begin the ascension missions. Needless to say people were rude and laughed at my “perceived” ability and the “why rush it” attitude. Out of frustration I took henchies and completed the missions myself then finished ascension.

People are very close minded when it comes to formulating groups. It amazes me when a group is shouting for 2 monks for a petty mission prior to ascension. Personally its more fun to have the diversity of individuals and their chosen professions, but as previously stated…… “there are idiots in this game”.

Lmaonade · Jul 12, 2005, 06:14 PM // 18:14

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