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Maxiemonster · Jul 14, 2005, 03:33 AM // 03:33

Yippie ! Improved henchmen AI

Algren Cole · Jul 14, 2005, 03:37 AM // 03:37

we should get past the idea of refering to the henchies as having AI...because they don't

DrSLUGFly · Jul 14, 2005, 03:38 AM // 03:38

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Originally Posted by gosl

Go henchies!! They don't need us humans to slow them down.

I help my gf online a lot of the time, and while I'm helping her I go on and level up my 2nd and 3rd chars through missions. Since I'm more than 75% afk I always take henchies and lately I've been more or less guiding the henches from one area to the next and then going afk and letting them do all the work!

And yes, they're quite efficient.

I keep asking Thom to join my guild but he won't answer

EverBlue · Jul 14, 2005, 03:58 AM // 03:58

I dunno, I still find that henches do some of the stupidest things. Running through lava, and I used Rebirth on Lina to pull her body from the burning fire, and as soon as she's out (With her skills recharging and barely any health) she runs back in to ressurect a fallen mesmer in our party, and ends up dead again.

DrSLUGFly · Jul 14, 2005, 04:04 AM // 04:04

perhaps there should be a chain of priorities:

1-stay alive
2-heal weakened members (if applicable)
3-fight threats
4-resurect fallen members (if applicable)
5-/dance

Wa$d · Jul 14, 2005, 04:07 AM // 04:07

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Originally Posted by DrSLUGFly

I keep asking Thom to join my guild but he won't answer

Thats cause hes in mine! and so are all the others so dont try to get devona, becasue me and her really hit it off! 1 night in a cave at the southern shiverpeaks isnt as colded as i thought!

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I dunno, I still find that henches do some of the stupidest things. Running through lava, and I used Rebirth on Lina to pull her body from the burning fire, and as soon as she's out (With her skills recharging and barely any health) she runs back in to ressurect a fallen mesmer in our party, and ends up dead again.

Some things will never change

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5-/dance

DUDE! i told you not to get jiggy with the hench, now im going to make lina and alesia tank you up one side and down the other!

Kaylynn Of Ascalon · Jul 14, 2005, 06:17 AM // 06:17

this is nothing new at all. all they did was change the way the henchies follow the main char.

also, i have on MANY many many times had my henchies (after i died) keep fighting, focus on one enemy at a time and defeat the entire enemy mob with out my help. Many times I've laid there dead watching my henchies kick ass. so I'm glad you are happy with the henchies but like I said its nothing new.

TheGreatBoo · Jul 14, 2005, 07:46 AM // 07:46

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Originally Posted by DrSLUGFly

perhaps there should be a chain of priorities:

1-stay alive
2-heal weakened members (if applicable)
3-fight threats
4-resurect fallen members (if applicable)
5-/dance

I like the idea, but there should be some calculations going on:
Most importantly, I've always had trouble with dot skills. Especially fighting things like dryders and the like. Dot on the entire party sucks, especially with a healer hench. I've seen them actually use protection spells instead of healing seed or just plain healing. If theirs a dot, fix it with a regen spell. If the entire partys dropping, use heal party first. And for the love of god, if theirs no threat, and everyones health is regenerating, resurrect before making sure everyones at full hp. When I die, I expect to be promptly ressurected after everyones out of harms way. I don't want to have to wait until everyone has full hp.

/dance just seems like an added bonus.

Malchiel · Jul 14, 2005, 07:56 AM // 07:56

The protector doesn't have any healing spell. But what she has is divine favor. So everytime she casts a protection on you, you're actually healed, if only for a little.

As for dying, the AI actually promptly attempts to resurrect you. At times to a fault.

DrSLUGFly · Jul 14, 2005, 11:15 AM // 11:15

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Originally Posted by TheGreatBoo

/dance just seems like an added bonus.

yes... it seemed like there should be a #5, but I couldn't think of anything

And it would be funny if all the henches suddenly broke into dance when teh party didn't move for a few minutes.

Calculations would be necessary of course. When there's no danger res should come before heal, and when there's a dead monk, the monk should get the first res (to help with res).

rotor · Jul 14, 2005, 11:19 AM // 11:19

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Originally Posted by Malchiel

The protector doesn't have any healing spell. But what she has is divine favor. So everytime she casts a protection on you, you're actually healed, if only for a little.

As for dying, the AI actually promptly attempts to resurrect you. At times to a fault.

Actually Protection Prayers have 3 non elite heal spells (2 that require conditions) and 3 elite heal spells (1 that require conditions)

But I have noticed that the prot hech will use Reversal of fortune.

Not sure wich elite spells the hench uses

Shandoo Bilari · Jul 14, 2005, 12:45 PM // 12:45

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Originally Posted by (absent)

Now 15% DP is bad enough, but then sometimes Alesia will try to rez me, and i know if she's successful, my DP will get bumped right up to 30%

You do not get DP when you die within the first 20-30 seconds of being rezzed.

Sir Maddox · Jul 14, 2005, 12:55 PM // 12:55

Hrm. I too noticed the Lina connection. (Pre-Searing Academy Monk)

However, she's now of a much lighter skin tone, and much lighter beehive hair. If there IS a connection, I think her look could at least be updated to be recongizable. I, for one, wouldn't mind seeing a dark skinned henchmen. :P

TheGreatBoo · Jul 14, 2005, 04:02 PM // 16:02

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Originally Posted by Sir Maddox

Hrm. I too noticed the Lina connection. (Pre-Searing Academy Monk)

However, she's now of a much lighter skin tone, and much lighter beehive hair. If there IS a connection, I think her look could at least be updated to be recongizable. I, for one, wouldn't mind seeing a dark skinned henchmen. :P

Well theres also little thom. I'm sure every player made this connection if they've done a majority of the quests. It seems like that soldier is a little less portly than our henchman pal.

Arvydas · Jul 14, 2005, 04:10 PM // 16:10

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Originally Posted by Edge Martinez

Yeah I think he means Heal Area. Never really use it much in PvE.

http://www.pockethouse.com/gallery/d...album=71&pos=2
Heal Area! Heal Area!

Back to topic. I haven't really noticed substantial improvements in henchmen AI.... they blocked my path once...

Darkest Dawn · Jul 14, 2005, 04:47 PM // 16:47

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Originally Posted by Edge Martinez

Yeah I think he means Heal Area. Never really use it much in PvE.

I don't usually either, but did bring it one time and found a good use for it. One of my party was a necro. Between battles I would concentrate on the undead she raised and heal them so that we were maintaining a nice sized army of them.

The undead Mesmer · Jul 14, 2005, 04:57 PM // 16:57

i noticed that they updated it my monk whas farming a bit when i could find my henchies normal the henchies whil follow and stay close to you now only the warrior whill stand next to you but the healers protectors etc. are standing 10 miles back i knw it improves the keep yourself alive factor and some other things.

but it seemed that they where talking about me way back there in the background

Age · Jul 14, 2005, 06:47 PM // 18:47

Hi I am new on these boards but not to the game and I am on Guild Hall.I am a beta tester that goes back to Feb.05.I would like to know your thoughts on a Hammer Warrior as an AI so that there would be 3 to choose from and with some good skills.

rwt2006 · Jul 14, 2005, 06:51 PM // 18:51

Wow the first postive thread about this update

or wait any update almost ha!

stumpy · Jul 14, 2005, 06:56 PM // 18:56

i agree ... i do love that update re: henchies AI ....

funny story though I have to share ... l was in U/W playing my monk with my guildies running quests when I was heading back from the mayor to go get the monuments quest when we came to the stairs with the hole in the ground (you know the one everyone like hiding in) ... well guess what happened to me as I joyfully headed to descend down the stairs ... I went up ... and up and up like the broken henchies lol ... when they use to run off into the sky. remember those days. guess Anet flagged me as too powerful and swapped alesia and my role. Everyone was laughin so hard no one could get a picture then blammo I was in the lead back on the ground. Flying is quite fun I must say!